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Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread
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If anyone has any contacts with the Trump team, no matter how low down the totem pole they are, please send them this message.
It is no longer 2017, most people are struggling greatly. The TV/legacy media is completely dead to anyone under 50. Twitter and other social media outlets let people know when you don't follow through on promises. Your promises can't get you re-elected, so you might as well try to tamper the coming storm and do what is right. And this is not right at all, knock it off, too many young men know the truth.
It is no longer 2017, most people are struggling greatly. The TV/legacy media is completely dead to anyone under 50. Twitter and other social media outlets let people know when you don't follow through on promises. Your promises can't get you re-elected, so you might as well try to tamper the coming storm and do what is right. And this is not right at all, knock it off, too many young men know the truth.
Not a frequent poster here anymore, but I have a few observations about the Trump presidency;
There has been some good work done, especially by DOGE and Elon's contribution. But the fundamental problems remain. Like I talked about during the runup to the election, I thought the progression would be something like;
1. Trump wins (check)
2. An initial period of optimism (check)
3. A gradual reduction in enthusiasm and eventual disappointment...
I think unfortunately that this is the most likely option still. (Not to take anything away from the good work that has been done so far) It's more of a general observation of how people work. They demand much and are quick to jump ship. It takes a lot to break free from the left-right, back and forth dynamic of modern mainstream politics.
I also see the tendency that Trump is backtracking, on tariffs, NATO, immigration etc. That's not a good sign. I wish the US would pull out of NATO and pull all troops out of Europe full stop. That would be a good thing for both areas, but especially for Germany, who has been occupied by the US since 1945 basically. How could they arm (Vance) when the US has stopped them from doing so? And the US has to a large extent brought "Globohomo" to Germany and Europe in general. Not this admin's fault, but at least Vance is lacking in perspective.
You either stay well clear of the bear, or you kill the bear! I'm just worried that Trump will poke the bear (our enemies) and then run away, or not be able to complete the job like last time. That could lead us into a really bad situation in a few years, also like last time. Trumps age is factor here...He's not like Putin, who was 47-48(?) when he took power in Russia. As a final note, it's not all negative, and I hope I'm wrong in many ways, but I don't think so. I know how humans operate at this point. Elon is doing great work non the less though, and maybe DOGE + potential scientific progress will be the positive legacy of this Presidency in the end.
There has been some good work done, especially by DOGE and Elon's contribution. But the fundamental problems remain. Like I talked about during the runup to the election, I thought the progression would be something like;
1. Trump wins (check)
2. An initial period of optimism (check)
3. A gradual reduction in enthusiasm and eventual disappointment...
I think unfortunately that this is the most likely option still. (Not to take anything away from the good work that has been done so far) It's more of a general observation of how people work. They demand much and are quick to jump ship. It takes a lot to break free from the left-right, back and forth dynamic of modern mainstream politics.
I also see the tendency that Trump is backtracking, on tariffs, NATO, immigration etc. That's not a good sign. I wish the US would pull out of NATO and pull all troops out of Europe full stop. That would be a good thing for both areas, but especially for Germany, who has been occupied by the US since 1945 basically. How could they arm (Vance) when the US has stopped them from doing so? And the US has to a large extent brought "Globohomo" to Germany and Europe in general. Not this admin's fault, but at least Vance is lacking in perspective.
You either stay well clear of the bear, or you kill the bear! I'm just worried that Trump will poke the bear (our enemies) and then run away, or not be able to complete the job like last time. That could lead us into a really bad situation in a few years, also like last time. Trumps age is factor here...He's not like Putin, who was 47-48(?) when he took power in Russia. As a final note, it's not all negative, and I hope I'm wrong in many ways, but I don't think so. I know how humans operate at this point. Elon is doing great work non the less though, and maybe DOGE + potential scientific progress will be the positive legacy of this Presidency in the end.
Chump change. I was hoping the protests would be over deportations or some other nonsense. But no, Trump is suggesting that it is illegal to protest Israel's genocidal actions. By illegal, he is referring to his "Additional Measures to Combat Antisemitism" EO.
All a part of the "party of free speech" LOL
I'm fine with clamping down on what passes for free speech. The First Amendment has no conception of the kind of treason and self-destroying marxism that comes out of the mouth of the left today. So if Trump would be just as bold against that as he is against anti-Israel speech, then at least that would be respectable.
There's really no way Trump can exit NATO without Congressional approval. Trump and Vance are trying to change minds, it's a slow process, can't be done in one administration most likely. Might be doable in the next 10-15 years.
He has floated the idea himself. I don't know if he could force it through, but now it looks like he's not intending to anyways. You might be right that it's a slow process, but that brings me back to the problem of Trumps age. He can't pull of a Putin and remain the de facto leader in a new admin, like Putin vis a vis Medvedev. And if he can't finish the process of changing America, which probably would take many decades, it's probably better not to start at all, since the pushback could be really bad.
Elon is a joker here though, as he's a smart guy with a lot of power, so things are a bit unpredictable...
Trump will start the process of change which goes through political parties. Change in America works through the parties and lasts over successive cycles.
Agreed.
I love the fact many are paying attention this time. If anyone has a contact you need to warn them that this act isn’t going to work this time.
This isn't true, they've suspended the security clearances for the firms that worked with Russia collusion, and a lawsuit on behalf of the woman murdered at J6 is proceeding because of Pam. She's also suing sanctuary cities. Not sure what else she is doing but she seems to be trying a bunch of things right now.
As usual, you just trust whatever garbage you read on twitter with zero checking up.
This isn't a productive comment but I can't believe Bondi is 59 years old. I had thought she was almost 20 years younger.
The purpose of my post wasn't to say that I agree or disagree with the content in the tweet.
The purpose was that an account with over 430,000 followers, posted a tweet with 57,000 likes, saying "nothing is being done". Whether this is 100% accurate or not, apparently it is not, is not my purpose. My purpose is that there are a lot of young men, especially young White men, who are on the cusp of throwing in the towel on this system. This time around they are paying very close attention to how much their lives improve as to whether they go full Patriot Front/Proud Boys or not. If they land a good job and still can't afford a home and start a family, then being doxxed isn't a threat any longer. And you can see that sentiment rising with tweets like this and the number of likes it gets. Just yesterday Charlie Kirk had to address the JQ because it is becoming so mainstream and so much pressure is being put on him by young men.
The Trump admin will have to get some very big things done to keep these young men checked into society. And I don't think they can do it, it would take a change the likes we have never seen in the USA. I pray that they can do it, I would love to have a peaceful transition out of this anti-White/anti-Christian/anti-family system we have in place. I think most will say, give Trump 4 years and Vance 8 years and we will see. I don't think most young men are going to wait around another 12 years. I could be very wrong, only time will tell, I am simply pointing out this trend I both see online and in real life in talking to a lot of young men.
what do they have on him ( or every person with influence ) is it epsteins island
"Free speech" eh...
apnews.com
Immigration agents arrest Palestinian activist who helped lead Columbia University protests
A prominent Palestinian activist who helped lead last spring's protests at Columbia University has been arrested by federal immigration agents.
apnews.com
Also puts Trump's team on the same side as Antifa, due to Antifa members attacking Palestinian supporters last year and the police letting them get away with it. Meaning, Trump once again will do nothing about Antifa. Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss.
There's nothing Trump or any President can do about the Talmudic Jewish leftism on campus as it's protected by free speech. But antisemitism is hate speech, and so, these same Talmudic institutions can be shut down by claiming they are antisemitic.
This is Jew on Jew violence, it is something to be celebrated. Now these same left-wing Talmudic Jews are faced with an impossible choice: Get rid of antisemitism laws or force their brown students to worship Israel. Grab the popcorn.
This looks so bad and is really coming off very flat on twitter. Libtards getting rabid about it and right wingers saying "wait a minute, after decades of anti-White/anti-male rhetoric, we get this?".