I should've been more clear; it punished the people who wanted to move from the UK to another EU country.
How has Brexit benefited the common folk in your opinion? It's not like unlimited immigration has stopped.
Anti-Immigration PVV Comes First in Dutch Elections
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I should've been more clear; it punished the people who wanted to move from the UK to another EU country.
How has Brexit benefited the common folk in your opinion? It's not like unlimited immigration has stopped.
Shaquilleoatmeal
Protestant
Gotcha.
I don’t think it has done anything really since the invasion hasn’t stopped.
It's removed one layer of official globalism. But the UK is still stuck in some aspects of it, and the trecharous UK government is still willing to do most of the same things as the EU anyway.
But the EU is a wall-to-wall leftists-globalist that is almost impossible to change. Italy has been voting against the EU for 15 years and always ends up with a left-wing+globalist government due to EU pressure.
Leaving the EU is one step of taking back your country. But you also need to complely upend your national politics, permenanlty.
To be in the EU is to be in a permanent left-wing government. They've just launched a new program to encourage as much immigration from outside the EU as possible.
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Honestly, that was my position perhaps 5 to 10 years ago. I don’t think at this stage there’s any possibility for voting ourselves out of this giant mess. There’s just too much systemic corruption, and traitors hostile to our nations are deeply embedded at every level of government. The entire system simply needs to collapse under its own weight, only then will enduring change be possible. Not guaranteed, but possible.
If it happens the pendulum will swing so far to the right, it will hit us all in the face.
Yes. That's been my position too - what is the quickest route to collapsing this treacherous system?
So the question is - to what extent could someone like Gert Wilders or leaving the EU help bring that about?
I think leaving the EU is a better stepping stone to that than electing a "far-right" party that will inevitably turn out to be status quo. If a country like The Netherlands left the EU, this would cause a lot of panicking and mask-dropping. And if the vote to leave the EU was ignored, then that would be even better.
Belief in the entire array of institutions in Western countries has tanked over the last few years. There are now large numbers of people who have zero belief in them and see them for what they are - treacherous.
Germany is looking at about 0% or negative economic growth for the year. Possible the economic leg down is close...
El Dorado
Other Christian
He is anti-EU, but pro-Israel, which likely means he's accepted Isreali money.
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The Netherlands wants a cabinet with PVV, VVD, NSC and BBB!
Which coalition is the most popular option among voters?That is the combination of PVV, VVD, NSC and BBB: 61% like this collaboration
Well, Mister Depraved, Christ-hating Mohammedan, don't let the door hit you on the way out. We'll see you next on The Lord's awful Day of Judgement.
Update: PVV is now up to 37 seats.
How high is the risk that those other parties will set their differences - if there are any to begin with - aside and form an anti-PVV coalition ?
I understand that, but the Dutch have to look out for what's best for their own country even if it means they leave for elsewhere in Europe. Other European populations can then follow their example and eventually there will be nowhere for them to go except back home.
Fairly likely, it's happened before just with other actors. The circus has already begun, with VVD indicating they don't want to be part of a coalition, but will back a minority one. This immediately activates the "tough formation" scenario, which I already indicated was the preferred one for the establishment.
I don't know the future, but here's a potential scenario that'll play out over the next few months:
1) Attempt to make a (fake) right wing coalition with PVV, NSC, VVD, but VVD declines.
2) Attempt to make a mixed coalition with PVV, NSC, GL-PvdA. This is guaranteed to fail, but formation protocol demands it to be "seriously considered".
3) Lots of talk about a minority government, which goes nowhere.
4) NSC, GL-PvdA, D66, VVD coalition considered as VVD flips back to wanting to be part of a coalition again.
5) Option 1) reconsidered.
This circus will keep going for as long as the current government needs to hand remaining power over to EU/WEF/WHO. If we get a government real fast it means the power transfer has been completed.
That’s exactly what keeps happening in Germany. They call the practice forming a ”firewall” against anti-democratic forces. So basically they intend to abandon democracy in order to “safe democracy”.
Yes that's right unfortunately, but the AfD got 10.3% of the vote in the last German federal election which is a lot less than 37% for the PVV. Even parties with the largest numbers of votes in Germany have not in recent times reached such a large percentage of the vote, SPD reached 25.7% in 2021.
They will end up with a strange government if they keep trying so hard to not work with the right wing parties, a collection of parties who don't like each other and whose cooperation does not make logical sense but for some perceived higher 'good' are working together.
Will be interesting to see what happens in the Netherlands and be increasingly ludicrous and against the public will if these parties are constantly blocked like that.
PVV got 24% and 37 seats. AfD is polling at 21%.
Yet "Brexit Britain" is as far as ever from a revival of national self-interest. One of Nigel Farage's justifications for Brexit was that the continentals are prone to fascism (sic).
A Conservative government that was elected with an 80-seat majority to stop the migrant invasion allowed over a million to invade in 2022 (the British Army comprises 76,225 regular full-time personnel and 4,139 Gurkhas for context. Many of whom are destined to live on the streets outside hotels with migrants sleeping in clean sheets).
Was wishful thinking, seeing percent instead of seats..
Dutch politics is like a regional third division Saturday amateur football league compared to geopolitics or even US domestic affairs - which is like the Champions League. Furthermore in the light of the ever expanding EU hydra it is of ever less importance to even Dutch nationals.
In general Wilders' electoral victory can be somewhat compared to Trump's 2016 win. There is a similar sense of frustration and disenfranchisement with the ruling political elite - from whatever color or stripe they may be. They are the 'The Cartel' as Baudet calls them. Wilders 38 seats are stunning, especially because the 'right wing' has been saturated with many other options.
In The Netherlands there is a never ending stream of crises - many manufactured but not all. The refugee crisis, the cost of living crisis, the housing crisis, the crime crisis, etc. It has resulted in the middle class is getting hollowed out, healthcare worsening yet ballooning in costs, cost of living exploding, some of the world's highest taxes, constant governmental overreach and a growing feeling that the country is losing its traditions, culture and sovereignty.
Nevertheless it's interesting to see how things work. Because like elsewhere there is friction, struggles and confrontation in the upper echelons. The EU apparatchiks are not happy with Wilders' electoral win and the strong EU aligned parties are already moving to position themselves in such a way that there will be 1. a coalition that excludes the PVV (cordon sanitaire) or 2. an impasse which will then lead to new elections.
Text above is in Dutch. It was originally posted on LinkedIn. It says that both the D66(6) and VVD (the heart of The Cartel) are part of Renew Europe, which is a radical pro integrationist EU party where many of the current EU frontmen (Verhofstadt for instance) are part of. They don't want a strong EU critical party leading The Netherlands, so it won't happen. Basically affirmation of the good cop - bad cop dialectic. One pretends to be liberal conservative (VVD) and the other liberal socialist (D66).
The good thing about all of this is that it exposes the facade that is representative democracy. Even if Wilders does become prime minister he won't get anything done due to the Court system, legally binding EU treaties/laws and opposition from the Deep State/EU. And if he doesn't become prime Minister it will expose the VVD/ The Cartel as hypocritical anti-democrats that defecate on the electorate. 87 percent of the VVD voters wants to enter a coalition with Wilders.
In general Wilders' electoral victory can be somewhat compared to Trump's 2016 win. There is a similar sense of frustration and disenfranchisement with the ruling political elite - from whatever color or stripe they may be. They are the 'The Cartel' as Baudet calls them. Wilders 38 seats are stunning, especially because the 'right wing' has been saturated with many other options.
In The Netherlands there is a never ending stream of crises - many manufactured but not all. The refugee crisis, the cost of living crisis, the housing crisis, the crime crisis, etc. It has resulted in the middle class is getting hollowed out, healthcare worsening yet ballooning in costs, cost of living exploding, some of the world's highest taxes, constant governmental overreach and a growing feeling that the country is losing its traditions, culture and sovereignty.
Nevertheless it's interesting to see how things work. Because like elsewhere there is friction, struggles and confrontation in the upper echelons. The EU apparatchiks are not happy with Wilders' electoral win and the strong EU aligned parties are already moving to position themselves in such a way that there will be 1. a coalition that excludes the PVV (cordon sanitaire) or 2. an impasse which will then lead to new elections.
Text above is in Dutch. It was originally posted on LinkedIn. It says that both the D66(6) and VVD (the heart of The Cartel) are part of Renew Europe, which is a radical pro integrationist EU party where many of the current EU frontmen (Verhofstadt for instance) are part of. They don't want a strong EU critical party leading The Netherlands, so it won't happen. Basically affirmation of the good cop - bad cop dialectic. One pretends to be liberal conservative (VVD) and the other liberal socialist (D66).
The good thing about all of this is that it exposes the facade that is representative democracy. Even if Wilders does become prime minister he won't get anything done due to the Court system, legally binding EU treaties/laws and opposition from the Deep State/EU. And if he doesn't become prime Minister it will expose the VVD/ The Cartel as hypocritical anti-democrats that defecate on the electorate. 87 percent of the VVD voters wants to enter a coalition with Wilders.
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It's not just me then!Loved his solo on Stairway To Heaven
Here is his first speech as prime minister.
The speech is followed by some footage of him taking a very hands on approach to the new immigration procedure.
The speech is followed by some footage of him taking a very hands on approach to the new immigration procedure.
