Aliens
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So I see the alien story boiled up again a couple days ago and then simmered down.
But I've also recently observed some more mainstream con-inc types saying Trump is going to be the "disclosure" president.
I searched some mainstream news out there and was a little surprised to see this alien thing popped up a year ago with people saying then that Trump has been "debriefed", there were congressional hearings, that something is "happening", etc.
It's kind of like the news people have all these things they can stick in the hopper, get attention (revenue), and then move along.
But I've also recently observed some more mainstream con-inc types saying Trump is going to be the "disclosure" president.
I searched some mainstream news out there and was a little surprised to see this alien thing popped up a year ago with people saying then that Trump has been "debriefed", there were congressional hearings, that something is "happening", etc.
It's kind of like the news people have all these things they can stick in the hopper, get attention (revenue), and then move along.
I mean, you guys keep bringing it up, but they exist. I've seen them. You can say whatever you want about "Muh, demons," but I saw what I saw and I know two other people who have also seen crazy sh*t in the sky. And don't give me that Project Blue Beam bullsh*t. If you ain't seen sh*t, then don't talk sh*t.
That's it, I'm out, so don't troll me. If you're really interested then use the search function for my previous posts on the subject.
That's it, I'm out, so don't troll me. If you're really interested then use the search function for my previous posts on the subject.
That's a rather confusing way to put it?
You explicitly said before that they might be time travellers, angels, a phenomena caused by other dimensions in which Christ has returned and ended Death permanently for Mankind, or even something else.
I can't find anywhere that you said it was aliens.
Which is a problem, as aliens would imply that God created a race of beings that aren't mentioned in the Bible.
Which would be rather odd.
Personally, I believe that the Earth is much larger than they claim, and is in fact Flat, and that any Aliens would have noticed the giant Flat planet and immediately investigated. Besides, Demons are reported to commonly mask themselves as aliens.
We have Aleister Crowley who met a demon before aliens existed as a modern concept, Lam who appeared like the alien grey.
We have Bob Gymlan, a YouTuber who as a child would commonly see a Demon disguised as an alien, and at one point it took the form of an actor and attempted to trick him in some strange manner but failed thanks to God's mercy and grace.
We have the Orthodox Church, who maintains that aliens are just demons and that no, there is no extra-terrestrial life, at least not in this dimension.
Finally, we have that time I spent several years as a teenager begging God to send an alien invasion so I could kill some damn bugs. I think that's great evidence there were none to send personally.
I was thinking about the silliness of flat earth poison the well ideas when I was looking at the sun, moon, and all the celestial bodies the other day, thinking about flight plans, and understanding principles of the university like gravity and the foundation upon which satellites work.
No, I didn't express my experience as being "aliens" per se because I didn't see any tiny green men, but I did describe it in terms of "UFO's" and I assume that fits into the discussion of aliens because who else would be driving the UFO's?
Great way to put it.
Glad somebody's reading my "work"
All kidding aside, you're right, the way I put it is a bit confusing as I'm conflating UFO's with "aliens." I stand corrected, I had an encounter with UFO's, not aliens. That is, unless aliens were inside the UFO's piloting them? But maybe the UFO's were just being piloted by God, as I do feel like the close encounter I had with these objects in the sky was divine in nature and has had a long-lasting and positive God-like effect on my life. For example, whenever I feel weak in my Christian faith I reflect on that night and it always renews my belief in a higher power.
Have you read Ezekiel? It's filled with otherworldly phenomenon and beings called Cherubim that are four faced creatures (man, lion, ox, and eagle) with wings that come from the sky and move at lightning speed.
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Interesting. I can't remember if I wrote on here about this, but there was a moment in my close encounter where I actually had the thought, "Is this me coming back from another dimension/worm hole to bring current me some kind of spiritual "message"? An immortal me who has already 'evolved' into a state of immortality via the human Art Of Perfect Medicine?
"The Art Of Perfect Medicine" is a phrase that "came to me" via this experience and something I think about often. It's an easy concept... Just imagine where the human medicine that we know today, in this reality/dimension, will be in a 1000 years? Extrapolate out from that and it's pretty straight forward and easy to see that one day we will be able to cheat death. I've had ideas/"visions" of how this will be achieved, but it's a bit lengthy for this discussion and this particular thread.
Personally I think the "in between" space between us and the angelic is larger than we imagine.
Nephilim. Just lump bigfoot, shapeshifters, aliens, little people, fairies, trolls, giants, sirens, werwolfs, ghosts, extra-dimensional beings, vampires, etc, etc, etc, in there. I think they are real. They are just in the liminal space of reality. Always fuzzy on those video cameras. In between material reality as we usually define it and the spiritual realm. Not quite the same as demons, but, overall fallen, ... not a great influence. I see why the Church would simplify and just categorize them as demons.
Nephilim. Just lump bigfoot, shapeshifters, aliens, little people, fairies, trolls, giants, sirens, werwolfs, ghosts, extra-dimensional beings, vampires, etc, etc, etc, in there. I think they are real. They are just in the liminal space of reality. Always fuzzy on those video cameras. In between material reality as we usually define it and the spiritual realm. Not quite the same as demons, but, overall fallen, ... not a great influence. I see why the Church would simplify and just categorize them as demons.
I mean no disrespect to these guys, as their hearts are obviously in the right place, but they aren't talking from experience. It's the same thing that I always encounter with UFO skeptics. They are skeptics because they haven't had an encounter with flying objects in the sky. Furthermore, they are primarily addressing what they call "the UFO deception" that is coming from other human beings, that is humans "up on high" within government power structures.
My personal experience has nothing to do with any of that. 10 years ago (before this most recent round of UFO hoopla) I was deep in nature far away from society when I had a 3+ hour "encounter" with three objects in the sky where at times there was a form of telepathic communication between me and the objects. This is not up for debate. It happened. There are no "explanations," and I'm tired of people who weren't there, or have never experienced such phenomenon say it didn't happen or, "it was this, or that"... You have no idea what you're talking about.
I agree with you, but this is a matter of semantics.
Yes, time travel probably exists, and UFOs are not exclusively bad.
However, aliens do not exist. Full stop. It's not in the Bible, and Demons have a proven record of attempting to take the form of Demons, and the original grey alien was the Demon Lam that Aleister Crowley contacted before Aliens exist in popular culture.
As long we do not forget that, we will not be fooled.
Perhaps aliens exist in some other dimension where humanity is much older, or where Christ has returned. However, God's first intelligent and civilised creation was Mankind, and Mankind are his children and heirs.
This is a very good video.
We have yet more inclinations that the end times are today.
For people least understand the Devil today.
And so signs and wonders are shown.
The Beast of Revelation Virgo.
From my experience I wouldn't call them "aliens" but highly evolved/advanced human beings who have mastered the art of perfect medicine over thousands, if not millions of years. What they physically look like after millions of years of having medicine that is perfect (hence having achieved immortality in human form) I have no idea. As we can clearly see evolution is an actual thing, not terms of secular ideas like The Big Bang, but from a fossilized human skeletal perspective where cromagnom man clearly had a more ape like disposition, jaw line, and forehead compared to the way we physically look now. And those obvious changes occured in a scant forty thousand years or so without having serious modern medicine which is less than a hundred years old.
I'm not so sure about that. I think it's more along the lines of "time doesn't exist," or that there is only "One Time." There are possibly parallel universes or "existances" that are all on the "same time" and there are simply ways to move quickly between these same time "realities."
We/I will, if we haven't already, reach a point in this discussion where human words and ideas will fall flat and cease to make sense as it is impossible to describe the indescribable.
My thinking on this subject comes from nobody else (to the best of my knowledge), and solely from my experience. I have not and do not read any books on the subject. I've heard of guys like Bob Lazar (watched him on Joe Rogan once) and Aleister Crowley but are not really all that familiar with their work or theories. Of course I have heard other's stories of "aliens" throughout my life but those stories (whether true or not) do not parallel my own experience and I do not identify with them.
And again, I refer you to the book of Ezekiel for Biblical descriptions of strange objects/crafts/beings coming from the sky towards Earth at the speed of light.
We were made in God's image.
Perhaps the flesh can be improved upon, but giving up the image of Humanity would be a surrender of the mirror of perfection of God.
A mirror because it is the perfect image of God, but just a reflection because we are mere men, not God.
I have long found the idea of Humanity using transhumanism to distort it's image to be an unpleasant one. Even back when I was an atheist.
I much prefer the notion that we will reach a point where we can choose to give up our flesh and become beings of pure spirit like Angels. Some have suggested that Heaven is like this, though the implication that Enoch, Elijah and Jesus Christ went to Heaven in the flesh suggests otherwise.
Stories such as All Tomorrows and Time Trap that explored this notion have always aggravated me.
It is akin to saying that all Europeans will mix with third world invaders and that their descendants become a culture and people alien to them. The worst kind of genocide. Corruption of heritage and inheritance.