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Note: ELCA = Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

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Tim Walz is supposedly a Lutheran. People are saying that he is a member of Pilgrim Lutheran Church (PLC) in St. Paul, Minnesota. From looking at the PLC website, his pastor is a woman. And ELCA (and PLC) churns out an army of social justice warriors.

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From the PLC's "Justice, Equity and the Global Church" section:


ELCA is radical in their support for the Alphabet groups.







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Just a side thought: This is one of the many reasons I left the confessional Lutheran church I grew up in, and why I left Protestantism in general. When people would ask what religion I am, I would find myself answering "I'm Lutheran, but conservative, but not that group, and not that other group, more like this or that group", etc. And then going into a boring litany of theological points about why my church is right, but Pastor Billy Bob down at the corner is wrong or whatever. It's tiresome, boring, and schismatic in nature. I wanted it to be clear where I stand theologically, morally, and why. That is one of 100 reasons I became Orthodox.

Now back to the topic at hand. Sorry for the sidebar.
 
@Get2choppaaa

I know you served and I am interested in your take on this.

It is my understanding that there are a lot of White Veteran Boomer Never Trumper types (the Paul Eaton/VoteVets crowd) who, nevertheless, had a bit of pause at the prospect of voting for Harris. I imagine that Walz is their gateway ("He served! He was a senior NCO! He's around my age! He looks like Warren Buffett! (even though he's over 30 years younger, but I digress)" and his main appeal is reeling this crowd back in.

How does his story about blowing off the last year(s) of his CSM correspondence work and conveniently retiring when he found out that his unit was scheduled to deploy to Iraq play with them? Do they even care?



The Truth About Tim Walz

Tim Walz has embellished and selectively omitted facts and circumstances of his military career for years.

We, retired Command Sergeants Major of the Minnesota National Guard, feel it is our duty and responsibility to bring forth the truth as we know it concerning his service record. So, we have put together a timeline of his service post 9/11. To the best of our knowledge, this information is completely true, having been verified by all those who served in positions with first-hand knowledge of the facts and circumstances of his service and departure from the Minnesota National Guard. Many of the dates and time frames are from his official discharge document and the reduction order reducing him to Master Sergeant.

On September 18th, 2001 Tim Walz reenlisted in the Minnesota Army National Guard for six years.

In early 2003 he was selected to attend the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy. The non-resident course consists of two years of correspondence coursework, followed by a two-week resident phase at Fort Bliss, Texas. When a Senior Non-Commissioned Officer accepts enrollment in the course, they accept three stipulations. First, they will serve for two years after graduation from the academy, or promotion to Sergeant Major or Command Sergeant Major, whichever is later. Second, if they fail the course they may be separated from the military. Third, they will complete the course or be reduced to Master Sergeant without board action. Senior Non-Commissioned Officers initial and sign a Statement of Agreement and Certification upon enrollment. The State Command Sergeant Major or Army National Guard Command Sergeant Major counsels the soldier and certifies that the senior Non-Commissioned Officer understands their responsibilities. These stipulations are put in place because the academy is a college level school, the military invests a lot of taxpayer money in the student. The military needs to ensure they will get the return on investment that the taxpayers deserve.

In late summer of 2003, First Sergeant Walz deployed with the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion in support of Operation Enduring Freedom to Italy.



The mission was to augment United States Air Force Europe Security Forces doing base security for six months. In no way were the units or Soldiers of the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion replacing any units or military forces so they could deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan.

After the unit's return to Minnesota in the spring of 2004, he was selected by high-level Command Sergeants Major to serve in the position of the Command Sergeant Major of the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion.

On August 5th, 2004 he was photographed holding a sign at a protest outside a President Bush campaign rally in southern Minnesota.

On September 17th, 2004 he was conditionally promoted to Command Sergeant Major. The conditions had been outlined to him when he was counseled and he signed the Statement of Agreement and Certification. If the conditions are not met, the promotion is null and void, like it never happened.

In early 2005, a warning order was issued to the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion, which included the position he was serving in, to prepare to be mobilized for active duty for a deployment to Iraq. Between the time the warning order was given and his "retirement," he told the Brigade Command Sergeant Major not to worry, that he would be going on the mission. It appears that was a lie.

On May 16th, 2005 he quit, betraying his country, leaving the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion and its Soldiers hanging; without its senior Non-Commissioned Officer, as the battalion prepared for war. His excuse to other leaders was that he needed to retire in order to run for congress. Which is false, according to a Department of Defense Directive, he could have run and requested permission from the Secretary of Defense before entering active duty; as many reservists have. If he had retired normally and respectfully, you would think he would have ensured his retirement documents were correctly filled out and signed, and that he would have ensured he was reduced to Master Sergeant for dropping out of the academy. Instead he slithered out the door and waited for the paperwork to catch up to him. His official retirement document states, SOLDIER NOT AVAILABLE FOR SIGNATURE.



On September 10th, 2005 conditionally promoted Command Sergeant Major Walz was reduced to Master Sergeant. It took a while for the system to catch up to him as it was uncharted territory, literally no one quits in the position he was in, or drops out of the academy. Except him.

In November of 2005, while the battalion trained for war at Camp Shelby, Mississippi, it received an offer from retired Master Sergeant Walz. He offered to fundraise for the battalion’s bus trip home over Christmas that year. The same Soldiers he had abandoned just months before, trying to buy their votes.

The 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion was deployed for 22 ½ months in 2006-2007. During this time, they were restricted by Army regulations and could not speak out against a candidate for office. In November 2006 he was elected to the House of Representatives. He claims to be the highest-ranking enlisted service member ever to serve in congress. Even though he was conditionally promoted to Command Sergeant Major less than eight months, quit before his obligations were met, and was reduced to Master Sergeant for retirement. Yes, he served at that rank, but was never qualified at that rank, and will receive retirement benefits at one rank below. You be the judge.

On November 1st, 2006, Tom Hagen, Iraq War Veteran, wrote a letter to the editor of the Winona Daily News. Here are a couple of sentences from the letter: But even more disturbing is the fact that Walz quickly retired after learning that his unit – southern Minnesota’s 1-125 FA Battalion – would be sent to Iraq. For Tim Walz to abandon his fellow soldiers and quit when they needed experienced leadership most is disheartening. It dishonors those brave American men and women who did answer their nation’s call and who continue to serve, fight and unfortunately die in harm’s way for us.

Here is part of Tim Walz’s response: After completing 20 years of service in 2001, I re-enlisted to serve our country for an additional four years following Sept. 11 and retired the year before my battalion was deployed to Iraq in order to run for Congress.

According to his official Report of Separation and Record of Service, he enlisted for six years on September 18th, 2001. However, in his response he says that he re-enlisted for four years, conveniently retiring a year before his battalion was deployed to Iraq. Even if he had re-enlisted for four years following Sept. 11, his retirement date would have been September 18th, 2005. Why then did he "retire" on May 16th, 2005, before his supposed four-year enlistment was up? And he makes it sound like he "retired" a year before his battalion deployed to Iraq; when in reality he knew when he "retired" that the battalion would be deployed to Iraq.



The bottom line in all of this is gut-wrenching and sad to explain. When the nation called, he quit. He failed to complete the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy. He failed to serve for two years following completion of the academy, which he dropped out of. He failed to serve two years after the conditional promotion to Command Sergeant Major. He failed to fulfill the full six years of the enlistment he signed on September 18th, 2001. He failed his country. He failed his state. He failed the Minnesota Army National Guard, the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion, and his fellow Soldiers. And he failed to lead by example. On top of that, he failed to uphold the seven Army Values: Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless-Service, Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage.

Traitorous, fraudulent, and shameful.

Signed,

Thomas Behrends
Command Sergeant Major (Retired)
78739 320th Ave
Worthington, MN 56187
Paul Herr
Command Sergeant Major (Retired)
12435 Old Highway 169
Hibbing, MN 55746
 
The Walz pick was a mistake, the guy is very unappealing on a number of levels. Kamala reportedly went against the advice of most of her advisors when picking him. Typical black female arrogance. It was her first major decision and she completely bungled it. There will be much more of that to come. Her best chance of winning remains avoiding the spotlight as much as possible and allowing the media to create a false perception both of her as a person, of her candidacy as successful and her victory inevitable. And after that, just counting on the Democrat fraud machine to steal it. But she's so stupid and arrogant she'll probably find a way to screw that up.
Indian* female arrogance

fixed it for you :)
 
A second DNC pro-Palestinian member of congress was primaried by AIPAC last night.



The Jew machine was working hard on that one. Big involvement from AIPAC and some other alphabet democracy group.
 
the topic of Israel monopolising almost the entirety of their preparations and rehearsed speeches isn't a red flag anymore. it's a giant ear-defeaning klownworld horn of what the next 4 years will be like
 
Not sure if we should we create a new thread for topics related to 2024 election fraud, which we expect to see more of.



Today @DC_Draino exposed Minnesota under Tim Walz is sending envelops where you mark your party affiliation on the outside of the ballot

It’s not just Minnesota. Democrats are setting the stage to rig the 2024 election

MORE STATES asking you to check the party affiliation box on the outside of the mailer. “I guess that just makes it easier for them to toss away the red ones”

“Got our voters pamphlets. Now you Check on the outside of your pamphlet what party you're affiliated with. I mean, I guess that just makes it easier for them to toss away the red ones.”
 
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The twitter woman starts off with saying they had "moderate, sensible dads" that they lost to Rush Limbaugh, conservatism, etc. But they'll never have the introspection to realize that they are the ones lost and drifting away from the tradition or sensibility. Or to think that Rush and conservatism are the things their fathers could relate to because they were sensible.
 
Tim Dillon thinks people like her because she is not bothered by the fact that she is an empty vessel. Sad if true.
A few social media streamers were annoyed at Kamala Harris team for contacting them, which reeks desperation due to Trump's appearance on Adin Ross stream.

Warning: Language.





Edit. Kai Cenat has 12.7 million followers. 👀 No wonder Kamala Harris team is so desperate.



#BREAKING: Popular Twitch Streamer Kai Cenat Freaks Out on stream After getting Calls from Kamala Harris Campaign and Secret Service About a Potential Stream Collaboration

#Manhattan | #NewYork

Watch as Kai Cenat, a major Twitch streamer with over 2 million followers, streams from an undisclosed location in Manhattan in a U-Haul truck. With thousands of viewers tuned in, he reveals that he's been receiving calls from Kamala Harris's campaign and the Secret Service about a potential livestream collaboration with Kamala Harris. However, he firmly states that he wants nothing to do with them, expressing his reluctance to get involved in politics. Cenat emphasizes that he has no interest in political matters, even bluntly stating, "I don't give a f**k" and noting that "Kamala is getting rejected by everyone." Despite the high-profile attention, Cenat makes it clear that he's not interested.
 
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I had to look up who Kai cenat is.


Musician and video game streamer. Caused a riot last year by giving away PlayStation 5s in union square Manhattan

He is one of the most subscribed twitch streamers and does other streams , was a class clown and his family was briefly in a homeless shelter when he grew up. He’s funny. 22 years old, a rags to riches success. Has zero interest in politics , not sure how a conversation with Kamala Harris would go, he’d probably just be clowning her. Or maybe not, they might pay him and give him a script
 
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Caitlin Thielen is the wife of former Minnesota Vikings receiver Adam Thielen.



Former sports broadcaster Michele Tafoya lives in Minnesota; she has this to say about Tim Walz as Governor of Minnesota.



I have lived in Minnesota since 1994. It has gone from being one of the safest, prettiest places in the US to — under @GovTimWalz — one of the saddest. Police morale has plummeted. More people have left than moved in. Walz is a an excellent liar. He let our cities burn, has lost over half a billion taxpayer dollars in the last four years to scandal, blamed the spread of Covid on youth sports, I could go on….

The country will clearly have a choice between leftism and freedom.
 
...they might pay him and give him a script

Palette Media (or Palette MGMT) and Future Forward PAC groups are part of the DNC where they look for popular social media influencers to pay them a lot of money to run pro-Harris and/or anti-Trump scripted ads.



Articles
Future Forward launches a $50 million pre-convention ad blitz for Harris
Biden Super PAC Plans a Historic $250 Million Ad Blitz

Below is supposedly written by Palette Media/Palette MGMT for social media influencers.

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Re: Tim Walz on China

Presenting Tim Walz as somehow pro-China as some US Republican are doing is absolutely insane.

In office the guy was always a cheerleader for all the initiatives to weaken and divide China, be it on Hong Kong when he was welcoming protest leaders to his office and cheering them on, or on Tibet. With regards to the latter he met the Dalaï Lama and even invited the so-called "Prime-Minister" of the "government in exile" to his office and introduced him to Minnesotan high schoolers.

The guy got married on the 5th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square protests (June 4th) because “he wanted to have a date he’ll always remember”, for crying out loud! That's how committed he is to activism against the Chinese government.

He also signed and even co-sponsored numerous pieces of extremely hawkish legislation on China, and he's on the record saying he refuses Chinese companies in his state (see screenshot).

He's basically the archetype of the Western liberal politician who's on a crusade to remake the world in his image under the immensely hypocritical guise of "human rights" and "bringing democracy".

I can assure you that these are exactly the types of US politicians who are most disliked in China: they'd much rather someone who's just outwardly sinophobic but at least is honest about it. Nothing less respectable than someone who says "I want the best for your people" and then enacts sanctions or other policies that seek to break up and regime change the country, leading to mass impoverishment people or deaths by the hundreds of thousands...

 
Re: Tim Walz on China

Presenting Tim Walz as somehow pro-China as some US Republican are doing is absolutely insane.

In office the guy was always a cheerleader for all the initiatives to weaken and divide China, be it on Hong Kong when he was welcoming protest leaders to his office and cheering them on, or on Tibet. With regards to the latter he met the Dalaï Lama and even invited the so-called "Prime-Minister" of the "government in exile" to his office and introduced him to Minnesotan high schoolers.

The guy got married on the 5th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square protests (June 4th) because “he wanted to have a date he’ll always remember”, for crying out loud! That's how committed he is to activism against the Chinese government.

He also signed and even co-sponsored numerous pieces of extremely hawkish legislation on China, and he's on the record saying he refuses Chinese companies in his state (see screenshot).

He's basically the archetype of the Western liberal politician who's on a crusade to remake the world in his image under the immensely hypocritical guise of "human rights" and "bringing democracy".

I can assure you that these are exactly the types of US politicians who are most disliked in China: they'd much rather someone who's just outwardly sinophobic but at least is honest about it. Nothing less respectable than someone who says "I want the best for your people" and then enacts sanctions or other policies that seek to break up and regime change the country, leading to mass impoverishment people or deaths by the hundreds of thousands...


Tampon tims Policy on China is really quite irrelevant.

He's a boomer Communist war dodger turd at heart.

Im no longer into altruistic points with our enemies. I only want to crush them and see them driven from the field of battle and hear the lamentation of their women... KROM give me strength!!!

Seriously though...

What's important is that we use all avenues of attack to defeat him and his generation of boomer succubus turds that will impoverish the future generations.

Bannon was and is right. Play smashmouth and play to win. Never kick a field goal when a touch down and 2 point conversion is available... Bet all or nothing and make them play by their own rules of total war.
 
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