Charlie Kirk Thread

Iakobos said:
You are asserting that because the person who is captured and accused is a leftist, that therefore there is no Israeli/Mossad involvement. That does not follow logically and even if this patsy did it, that doesn't rule out the Israel angle. If it was Israel, they absolutely want to steer the ensuing narrative into the left vs right paradigm to take the heat off of themselves. It's their classic playbook.

Kirk being a massive historical ally to Israel, is the exact reason why he was such a threat. Israeli interests funded and propped him up as he was the key figure to the only American demographic that provides hope for future political support in the USA: youthful moderate Republican Zionists. If he started to shift his views (such a thing is, in fact, possible), then he would be far more dangerous to Israel than any other influencer because he would undermine their most important audience.

Compilation of ways Kirk was pissing off Zionist backers:



He questioned October 7th as a potentially 'allowed' incident by Israel to incite war.
He platformed anti-Zionists at his events.
He lobbied against war with Iran to Trump.
He called out Epstein for being Mossad.
He said that powerful people behind the scenes were pressuring him strongly to stop these incipient anti-Israel sentiments. And he was pissed off that he was being told he was not 'allowed' to tell the truth as he saw it.
He told multiple people behind the scenes that he was worried Israel would try to kill him, which was reported and made public weeks in advance of his assassination.
He turned down an injection of Zionist funding and a trip to Israel (you know, the trip they have people take when they're getting out of line).

You have to understand that Israel saw him and bought and paid for. When your bought and paid for asset is going off the reservation and potentially taking millions of American youth with him, there is a clear incentive to take action. Not only to shut him down but to send a message to others. And it does seem like some others received the message.
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There is no evidence that the shooter was prompted into murder by Israel. I'm sure everyone here is aware of the amount of mental retardation out there helped along by Soros funded groups. These groups aren't motivated by Zionism, they are motivated by satan.

Now Fuentes is coming under fire here because of one opinion that went against the grain.

It's the same but inverse when Ye came out and made statements against (((them))). Based on that, you had guys here advocating for him to be President! This is not healthy. If Jews are blamed for everything, then nobody is going listen when they are accused of things they actually are responsible for.
The CK gunman was a screwed up young man poisoned by the sick culture. He was motivated by his affection for another queer. Men do stupid s**t for love. How many years here have we been amazed by the stupidity of simps and incels? It appears the CK assassination has been a wake up call for normies. If this wasn't so, Jimmy Kimmel would still have a show. This is all attributed to the leadership of President Trump. People everywhere are beginning to call out nonsense that they wouldn't have been brave enough to stand up to a year ago.
 
Uzisuicide said:
There is no evidence that the shooter was prompted into murder by Israel. I'm sure everyone here is aware of the amount of mental retardation out there helped along by Soros funded groups. These groups aren't motivated by Zionism, they are motivated by satan.

Now Fuentes is coming under fire here because of one opinion that went against the grain.

It's the same but inverse when Ye came out and made statements against (((them))). Based on that, you had guys here advocating for him to be President! This is not healthy. If Jews are blamed for everything, then nobody is going listen when they are accused of things they actually are responsible for.
The CK gunman was a screwed up young man poisoned by the sick culture. He was motivated by his affection for another queer. Men do stupid s**t for love. How many years here have we been amazed by the stupidity of simps and incels? It appears the CK assassination has been a wake up call for normies. If this wasn't so, Jimmy Kimmel would still have a show. This is all attributed to the leadership of President Trump. People everywhere are beginning to call out nonsense that they wouldn't have been brave enough to stand up to a year ago.
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Fuentes has been more responsible on this topic than I have on this forum. I don't have proof of Israeli involvement, but I have strong suspicions.
 
Uzisuicide said:
It's retarded...
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aero said:
It’s sad to see the right being so retarded.
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Stop being clowns and insinuating that members here are retarded. No one here has said it for sure wasn't a lone faggot, but you two insist that the jews had nothing to do with this. So who again is being "retarded"? No one here except Magoo has gone deep down the menorah and possible second shooter rabbit hole, but even he has made some good points which you two continue to ignore. Personally I'm at 20% "It was a lone homo and the story is exactly the way it is being portrayed in the media," and 80% "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark that most likely involves jews."

Either come up with some plausible answers to the questions posed about Tyler Robinson (4.0 student, etc.), George Zinn (jew), Bill Ackman's (jew) million dollar reward to the shooters father, Bibi's over-reaction to the barely known Charlie Kirk's death as if a head of state had been assassinated, Charlie Kirk murals in Israel that were seemingly erected before Charlie was even shot, the Candace and Tucker vids posted in this thread, etc., or give us some more information why Tyler Robinson has already been convicted of the shooting before any evidence has been presented in a court of law (if you Google "Who shot Charlie Kirk?" Robinson's name pops up even though all we have as evidence is his dad saying "my son did it").
 
Frank Turek has come out with a video and is now doing interviews, there is one with Ruslan. He apparently did CPR on Charlie, and is a close friend. Some reports say Charlie's mentor. He is also the one that was tipping his hat that people thought looked like a signal.

I've watched some clips of his account and it's heart wrenching.

I looked up some of his past work and he seems to have done alot of apologetics. After a little digging I found that he's more of your standard evangelical-zionist Christian guy. I wonder if his views will develop. I'm around alot of standard-ish evangelicals and some of them have been changing their views, especially now.
 
Uzisuicide said:
There is no evidence that the shooter was prompted into murder by Israel. I'm sure everyone here is aware of the amount of mental retardation out there helped along by Soros funded groups. These groups aren't motivated by Zionism, they are motivated by satan.
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There is however, clear evidence that Israel (who have the most well-networked covert intelligence agency in the world and a history of assassinations) wanted Kirk shut down. Then he got shut down. Could just be a coincidence I suppose. Not to mention the increasing stack of anomalies relating to the case which I haven't even touched on, so far I've simply been addressing those who say there's no motive for Israel to take out Kirk.

Zionism and Satanism are the same team underneath the surface and have the same motives. Antichrist factions are happen to use whoever can be duped into aiding their agendas whether that be left wing mentally ill folks, pedo espionage agents, or dispensationalist Christians.

Uzisuicide said:
It's the same but inverse when Ye came out and made statements against (((them))). Based on that, you had guys here advocating for him to be President! This is not healthy. If Jews are blamed for everything, then nobody is going listen when they are accused of things they actually are responsible for.
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This line of argument is concern trolling.

Concern trolling is a deceptive rhetorical tactic. A person pretends to support a group, cause, or community but raises exaggerated “concerns” about its policies, tactics, or members. The intent is to sow doubt, derail discussion, or weaken cohesion rather than engage in honest critique. Online, it often appears as posts framed as “just asking questions” or “worried about optics” while pushing arguments that benefit an opposing side. The “concerns” aren’t aimed at improvement but at undermining confidence or credibility.

I'm not accusing you of being a bad faith actor, but this is the end product of Fuentes' position.

If you're worried about talking about potential Israel involvement because there's some possibility that you might end up with egg on your face, you're not cut out for the battle we're engaged in. People are primed to turn against Israel, the enemy of America, and if you make it all about the left, then you're playing into their hands.

Uzisuicide said:
The CK gunman was a screwed up young man poisoned by the sick culture. He was motivated by his affection for another queer. Men do stupid s**t for love. How many years here have we been amazed by the stupidity of simps and incels?
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The way you are speaking, it sounds like you have the answers you need from the FBI and you're satisfied with the conclusion and you feel that the evidence is thorough, consistent and fully explained. Fair enough. I'm not.
 
PurpleUrkel said:
Stop being clowns and insinuating that members here are retarded. No one here has said it for sure wasn't a lone faggot, but you two insist that the jews had nothing to do with this. So who again is being "retarded"? No one here except Magoo has gone deep down the menorah and possible second shooter rabbit hole, but even he has made some good points which you two continue to ignore. Personally I'm at 20% "It was a lone homo and the story is exactly the way it is being portrayed in the media," and 80% "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark that most likely involves jews."

Either come up with some plausible answers to the questions posed about Tyler Robinson (4.0 student, etc.), George Zinn (jew), Bill Ackman's (jew) million dollar reward to the shooters father, Bibi's over-reaction to the barely known Charlie Kirk's death as if a head of state had been assassinated, Charlie Kirk murals in Israel that were seemingly erected before Charlie was even shot, the Candace and Tucker vids posted in this thread, etc., or give us some more information why Tyler Robinson has already been convicted of the shooting before any evidence has been presented in a court of law (if you Google "Who shot Charlie Kirk?" Robinson's name pops up even though all we have as evidence is his dad saying "my son did it").
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I didn´t fully went into movie mode. So for the pleasure of user Uzisuicide will post more:

I think this was something similar to the killing of a captain in a mafia movie. A captain that had been several times warned not to go astray. We can also try to understand how come a guy fully in bed with Israel starts suddenly questioning them. And who is controlling this narrative.

Still following @Uzisuicide? Anyway just like in a mafia movie. Let´s say Godfather. No Irishman. You cannot kill a made man without the approval of the commission. The commission gathered and decided Kirk had to go. Trump was informed. And was told the order was given. And if he interfered he or his family would go also. They might even make him participate on the preparations for him to show his loyalty. I don´t think Vance was informed. Even though he is CIA.



Trump doesn´t seat in the committee but has the right to sit outside the door where it´s conducted. And is informed when necessary.

The commission is not comprised of any Antifa. Antifa is several layers bellow. Antifa is the muscle. It´s the emotional muscle which can be activated or deactivated easily. I don´t think blacks and lesbians are the ones conducting Antifa actions.

The commission is comprised of Pentagon, CIA/Mossad, Israel, etc. The usual vampires. The deep state. This commission makes a decision and whoever executes it´s decisions is irrelevant. Fixing on the person who pulled the trigger is a futile exercise. What matters is the bigger picture.

You can say one of the players argued more for Charlie death. And that player was ISRAEL. And they were the ones who set things in motion.

Charlie was more valuable dead than alive to the commission. Period. And that´s why he died. He might have thought he was valuable but the bigger cunts pulled the rug on him. Because for them it´s more valuable this way. His death is more convenient to deep state goals.

I think his wife is left alive as long as she keeps her mouth shut. And she will. Others more innocent and naive inside Trump team will be disgusted by this.

Not bad for a movie plot. Should I sell this to Hollywood?
 
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Northumber said:
I looked up some of his past work and he seems to have done alot of apologetics. After a little digging I found that he's more of your standard evangelical-zionist Christian guy. I wonder if his views will develop. I'm around alot of standard-ish evangelicals and some of them have been changing their views, especially now.
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I think I've heard Ruslan KD mentioned before that he's a charismatic (though not full on holy roller as far as I know) though he does have an Armenian Orthodox background and he pops into those churches occasionally.
 
Wutang said:
I think I've heard Ruslan KD mentioned before that he's a charismatic (though not full on holy roller as far as I know) though he does have an Armenian Orthodox background and he pops into those churches occasionally.
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I think I do recall that about Ruslan now but I didn't know he was attending Orthodox churches from time to time.

Hopefully, I wasn't confusing in my post but I was talking about Frank Turek as the zionist-evangelical type. Frank just happened to be interviewed by Ruslan lately.
 
magoo said:
Not bad for a movie plot. Should I sell this to Hollywood?
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Life is stranger than fiction. There is a saying in the writing world, "Write what you know." The best movies are usually based on novels, and the best novels are usually based on truth.

The reason The Sopranos and The Godfather are so compelling to watch is because they expose us to the truth of a world that we do not know or comprehend. But the reason these stories work for us, the audience, is because they are true stories (though slightly embellished for dramatic effect).

Somebody needs to write a compelling story about the jews and mossad and how they whack dissenters and then turn it into a movie... Oh wait, someone already did that, it's called The Passion Of The Christ.
 
Speaking of Ruslan, he's not happy about Candace. Looks like fallout is working through youtube land: Even though he's scoffing at Candace for thinking Israel is involved the concepts are out there more than in the past I think.

 
LaAguilaNegra said:
Erika Kirk has been elected as new Chairwoman and CEO of Turning Point USA



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Okay, enough, I gave her the benefit of the doubt when she immediately came out in public to speak and grieve. But who does this? Is this a Gen Z thing? I'm so tore up after a loss that it takes me at least a year before I can really speak coherently about it and many of my friends don't even know that my sister was murdered by her black drug dealer boyfriend 2 years ago. C'mon girl, give it a rest. She has two children to take care of and she never has to work again, but here she is already picking up the mantle and running like a boss babe with it. Give it a rest and fold the organization that got your husband killed, regroup, and live to fight another day.

Not to be disrespectful, but if you're going to grieve in public, be prepared to be criticized and challenged in public. And so I wonder how long before she has a "new man" in her life? And when she does, you better bet that it will be a beta orbiter and "friend" or "acquaintance" of Charlie's (saw this happen with my uncle who was a cop and within a year his hot wife was married to another cop friend of my uncles who was holding her hand at his funeral).
 
PurpleUrkel said:
Okay, enough, I gave her the benefit of the doubt when she immediately came out in public to speak and grieve. But who does this? Is this a Gen Z thing? I'm so tore up after a loss that it takes me at least a year before I can really speak coherently about it and many of my friends don't even know that my sister was murdered by her black drug dealer boyfriend 2 years ago. C'mon girl, give it a rest. She has two children to take care of and she never has to work again, but here she is already picking up the mantle and running like a boss babe with it. Give it a rest and fold the organization that got your husband killed, regroup, and live to fight another day.

Not to be disrespectful, but if you're going to grieve in public, be prepared to be criticized and challenged in public. And so I wonder how long before she has a "new man" in her life? And when she does, you better bet that it will be a beta orbiter and "friend" or "acquaintance" of Charlie's (saw this happen with my uncle who was a cop and within a year his hot wife was married to another cop friend of my uncles who was holding her hand at his funeral).
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When my dad died, my mom was all torn up, but one of the things she wanted was for my dad to be recognized and appreciated for what he did in his life. I see Erica's response falling in the same pattern. She wants Charlie to get as much praise and adoration as possible, and wants him to be remembered as a great man.

Pushing for Turning point to continue is a fundamental necessity towards this goal, so she is all in on trying to make this happen. There's really noone else that could take over Turning Point without changing it fundamentally and moving away from what it was under Charlie. With Erica in charge, Charlie can always be put forward as the martyred leader and figurehead.

It's just human nature for her to respond this way in my opinion. It's probably just as well for the organization and for the work that it does. Without strong leadership, it would tend to fall apart. If outsiders or other underlings were to take control, it would almost certainly change it's direction and become less effective at what it was doing. She is as likely as anyone to keep it on track.

I am assuming in this that she has the leadership and administrative capability needed. Women are less strong at this than men, but some women do have a talent for this. I think she has a chance of making it work in the near future. It's harder to say what 5 or 10 years will bring.
 
Iakobos said:
There is however, clear evidence that Israel (who have the most well-networked covert intelligence agency in the world and a history of assassinations) wanted Kirk shut down. Then he got shut down. Could just be a coincidence I suppose. Not to mention the increasing stack of anomalies relating to the case which I haven't even touched on, so far I've simply been addressing those who say there's no motive for Israel to take out Kirk.

Zionism and Satanism are the same team underneath the surface and have the same motives. Antichrist factions are happen to use whoever can be duped into aiding their agendas whether that be left wing mentally ill folks, pedo espionage agents, or dispensationalist Christians.



This line of argument is concern trolling.

Concern trolling is a deceptive rhetorical tactic. A person pretends to support a group, cause, or community but raises exaggerated “concerns” about its policies, tactics, or members. The intent is to sow doubt, derail discussion, or weaken cohesion rather than engage in honest critique. Online, it often appears as posts framed as “just asking questions” or “worried about optics” while pushing arguments that benefit an opposing side. The “concerns” aren’t aimed at improvement but at undermining confidence or credibility.

I'm not accusing you of being a bad faith actor, but this is the end product of Fuentes' position.

If you're worried about talking about potential Israel involvement because there's some possibility that you might end up with egg on your face, you're not cut out for the battle we're engaged in. People are primed to turn against Israel, the enemy of America, and if you make it all about the left, then you're playing into their hands.



The way you are speaking, it sounds like you have the answers you need from the FBI and you're satisfied with the conclusion and you feel that the evidence is thorough, consistent and fully explained. Fair enough. I'm not.
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I'm controlled opposition.
 
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