Charlie Kirk Thread

I don't know if this was posted. But seems to sum up the direction.



On another note, I accessed the forum via a public wi-fi and found it was on their block list. It's obviously part of a commercially collated list. Not one that's been thrown together by the venue.

The reason why cancel culture exists. It´s because courts don´t work. Cancel culture is the people answer to useless laws and judges. Which didn´t adapt to internet. And retarded concepts of free speech. Free speech is instigating the murder of someone????? What a joke. All rights have restrictions. Cause we live in a society and are not animals. The left thought they could play this game alone. What goes around...

The person who acts retarded should pay for their stupidity. Kimmel is evaluated by the people who watch his show. All american talk shows are shit nowadays. They have no humor. Only political correctness. What Kimmel needs is to pay damages for his stupidity. His stupid he pays. But if judges refuse to acknowledge this. Then you have this gay cancel culture bullshit.
 
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The reason why cancel culture exists. It´s because courts don´t work. Cancel culture is the people answer to useless laws and judges. Which didn´t adapt to internet. And retarded concepts of free speech. Free speech is instigating the murder of someone????? What a joke. All rights have restrictions. Cause we live in a society and are not animals.

The person who acts retarded should pay for their stupidity. Kimmel is evaluated by the people who watch his show. All American talk shows are shit nowadays. They have no humor. Only political correctness. What Kimmel needs is to pay damages for his stupidity. His stupid he pays. But if judges refuse to acknowledge this. Then you have this gay cancel culture bullshit.


Concepts like free speech and the best idea winning only exist in the theater of people with broad spectrum high cognitive abilities. People for whom life is on easy mode in a technically advanced society. So Elon Musk, Thomas Sowell, etc. The lower someone's cognitive abilities, the less likely they are to follow some high philosophy that may be able to guide a genuine elite.

The idiot left has pretended to have principles for years, and to care about certain things. But there is ample evidence they don't. For example, I call you and tell you you're whole family was in a car accident. Your answer is a panicked, "Where are they? What happened? Are they alright?" When a black victim is hurt, you don't hear this from Libs. You don't hear any care for the black. They just care about using it to take power. In instances where the black victim turns out to be a victim of black-on-black, or a hoax. They just want it to go away. There is no care for the black. In some instances, like the Bubba Wallace faux-noose hoax, many leftists reply was, "What this tells us is what it would be like if it did happen." If they cared about racism, their response would be, "I'm so glad this is a hoax. America is not as racist as I thought." They want more racism, because it's been a multi-decade effective cudgel for taking power.

This endless hypocrisy has been largely the preserve of the left, as they have had pretty much all power. We don't have a good idea how the right will use it, as they have had little power.

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Most principles and cares are just tools for the friend-enemy distinction. They exist when it's useful, and don't when its not.


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I have my in-group, which is whites, and to a lesser extent Christians. There are other groups who I have an affinity and respect for, like Japanese. Other groups like Somalis - I am hostile to. Because they are an inherently uncivilized and hostile people, whose aim it is to destroy an environment I'd like to live in, replacing it with their putrid offering. It's only within the in-group that you can have principles that will be broadly followed without the need for zealous force. But even then, I think free speech is a terrible idea. There is a narrow spectrum of things which a society needs to survive and perpetuate itself into the future. Free speech has primarily been used to tear down Christianity, stable family and social structures, and white society. My out-group are the third world invading horde. I want complete separation from them. They have no common principles. They are arriving in their millions, using principles to destroy us, and ignoring them to rape and take whatever they can. Get rid of them. All of them.
 
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And if youre wrong it´s a tremendous injustice that nobody deserves specially a girieving mother.
I don't view it that way. Having worked for rich and famous people I just call it like I see it. I'm just sitting here on an anonymous Internet forum spouting opinions and ideas. Knowing that the public figures I critique will never read what I write much less be hurt by it. If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it does it make a sound?

I'm actually quite tempered in what I say around here... If I gave my unfiltered thoughts and opinions I would no doubt be banned. And so there is no such thing as free speech unless you are willing to suffer the consequences. I am not, and so I temper my words.

What happened to Charlie Kirk is a very sad state of affairs. He did not deserve to die in the way in which he did simply for stating his opinions in public. However, to me he is a stranger to whom I have no emotional attachment. Something around this whole thing does not seem right. The confusing narrative surrounding his public assassination and what is now becoming an over reaction to one man's death all just seem too hyper emotional, yet at the same time devoid of any true emotion. In many ways this is starting to feel like a staged episode of MTV's The Real World. In the world in which I inhabit, every great and true person I've ever known grieves in private like a stoic... They do not go out in public announcing their grief and informing us of their future career and business plans.
 
I don't view it that way. Having worked for rich and famous people I just call it like I see it. I'm just sitting here on an anonymous Internet forum spouting opinions and ideas. Knowing that the public figures I critique will never read what I write much less be hurt by it. If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it does it make a sound?

You don´t know that. Someone can read you and start harrassing the woman. And even if your right which I think you are. It´s too f early. The man was shot one week ago. You are doing what you are accusing her off.
I'm actually quite tempered in what I say around here... If I gave my unfiltered thoughts and opinions I would no doubt be banned. And so there is no such thing as free speech unless you are willing to suffer the consequences. I am not, and so I temper my words.
Likewise. Even though I get suspended every month.

What happened to Charlie Kirk is a very sad state of affairs. He did not deserve to die in the way in which he did simply for stating his opinions in public. However, to me he is a stranger to whom I have no emotional attachment. Something around this whole thing does not seem right. The confusing narrative surrounding his public assassination and what is now becoming an over reaction to one man's death all just seem too hyper emotional, yet at the same time devoid of any true emotion. In many ways this is starting to feel like a staged episode of MTV's The Real World. In the world in which I inhabit, every great and true person I've ever known grieves in private like a stoic... They do not go out in public announcing their grief and informing us of their future career and business plans.
Her husband was shot in front of her. Do you think she has any autonomy on her decisions? She gets any saying? A woman alone around high predatory lunatics? She is a puppet. They press play and she acts. I´m sure she doesn´t want to die in a car crash. If she is doing anything suspicious which I have no idea. it´s for her sake and her children sake.
There is a narrative in play and they are controlling it.

Charlie Kirk assasination can never ever occur without the complicit involvement o law enforcement. Both in the hit as in the cover up. No F way.People who say otherwise are completely oblivious to the level of information the government has. And if by any chance this was just a lunatic that shot. It was because someone didn´t pay attention to the alert sign which started to blink in the computer screen. But it´s not the case. Here it´s a plot. Without a single shred of doubt.

There are trillions at stake. Mafia do what they do for millions. Government handles trillions. They have special forces at their disposal. Specially US government. Which is considered the biggest richest and most powerful mafia in the world. Government is like mafia less violent.

Also all this people are useless. Do you see them making any real work. Do you see Trump or any other politician doing work. They are dependent on this fiction because they cant do anything else. Maybe sell time shares. Trump is a little bit different. Because he has vision. He is just a slob. But he can see what others don´t. Almost an artist.

Some people here don´t understand the level of sordidness that exists in high level shit. A mix of naivety and innocence in this thread which is good and uplifting actually. We don´t have to look into all car crashes on the road. A business owner will have a different take on this event than the business employee. Emplyees are more shielded in a way.

All this shit might backfire on Israel. Just like Charlie went down. Israel is bringing a lot of unwanted attention. Let´s see what comes next.
 
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Flaming - 1 point. Tone it down.
Concepts like free speech and the best idea winning only exist in the theater of people with broad spectrum high cognitive abilities. People for whom life is on easy mode in a technically advanced society. So Elon Musk, Thomas Sowell, etc. The lower someone's cognitive abilities, the less likely they are to follow some high philosophy that may be able to guide a genuine elite.

The idiot left has pretended to have principles for years, and to care about certain things. But there is ample evidence they don't. For example, I call you and tell you you're whole family was in a car accident. Your answer is a panicked, "Where are they? What happened? Are they alright?" When a black victim is hurt, you don't hear this from Libs. You don't hear any care for the black. They just care about using it to take power. In instances where the black victim turns out to be a victim of black-on-black, or a hoax. They just want it to go away. There is no care for the black. In some instances, like the Bubba Wallace faux-noose hoax, many leftists reply was, "What this tells us is what it would be like if it did happen." If they cared about racism, their response would be, "I'm so glad this is a hoax. America is not as racist as I thought." They want more racism, because it's been a multi-decade effective cudgel for taking power.

This endless hypocrisy has been largely the preserve of the left, as they have had pretty much all power. We don't have a good idea how the right will use it, as they have had little power.

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Most principles and cares are just tools for the friend-enemy distinction. They exist when it's useful, and don't when its not.


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I have my in-group, which is whites, and to a lesser extent Christians. There are other groups who I have an affinity and respect for, like Japanese. Other groups like Somalis - I am hostile to. Because they are an inherently uncivilized and hostile people, whose aim it is to destroy an environment I'd like to live in, replacing it with their putrid offering. It's only within the in-group that you can have principles that will be broadly followed without the need for zealous force. But even then, I think free speech is a terrible idea. There is a narrow spectrum of things which a society needs to survive and perpetuate itself into the future. Free speech has primarily been used to tear down Christianity, stable family and social structures, and white society. My out-group are the third world invading horde. I want complete separation from them. They have no common principles. They are arriving in their millions, using principles to destroy us, and ignoring them to rape and take whatever they can. Get rid of them. All of them.

Kevork should be doxxed and someone kill him. For some idiots this is free speech. Everytime someone says this is free speech. An add on a newspaper should be published with the adress of said person. With the title kill him. Hey free speech right?
 
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Concepts like free speech and the best idea winning only exist in the theater of people with broad spectrum high cognitive abilities. People for whom life is on easy mode in a technically advanced society. So Elon Musk, Thomas Sowell, etc. The lower someone's cognitive abilities, the less likely they are to follow some high philosophy that may be able to guide a genuine elite.

The idiot left has pretended to have principles for years, and to care about certain things. But there is ample evidence they don't. For example, I call you and tell you you're whole family was in a car accident. Your answer is a panicked, "Where are they? What happened? Are they alright?" When a black victim is hurt, you don't hear this from Libs. You don't hear any care for the black. They just care about using it to take power. In instances where the black victim turns out to be a victim of black-on-black, or a hoax. They just want it to go away. There is no care for the black. In some instances, like the Bubba Wallace faux-noose hoax, many leftists reply was, "What this tells us is what it would be like if it did happen." If they cared about racism, their response would be, "I'm so glad this is a hoax. America is not as racist as I thought." They want more racism, because it's been a multi-decade effective cudgel for taking power.

This endless hypocrisy has been largely the preserve of the left, as they have had pretty much all power. We don't have a good idea how the right will use it, as they have had little power.

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Most principles and cares are just tools for the friend-enemy distinction. They exist when it's useful, and don't when its not.


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I have my in-group, which is whites, and to a lesser extent Christians. There are other groups who I have an affinity and respect for, like Japanese. Other groups like Somalis - I am hostile to. Because they are an inherently uncivilized and hostile people, whose aim it is to destroy an environment I'd like to live in, replacing it with their putrid offering. It's only within the in-group that you can have principles that will be broadly followed without the need for zealous force. But even then, I think free speech is a terrible idea. There is a narrow spectrum of things which a society needs to survive and perpetuate itself into the future. Free speech has primarily been used to tear down Christianity, stable family and social structures, and white society. My out-group are the third world invading horde. I want complete separation from them. They have no common principles. They are arriving in their millions, using principles to destroy us, and ignoring them to rape and take whatever they can. Get rid of them. All of them.
Even if it was only high cognitive individuals, it would not matter as the game is rigged. Democracy can't function in capitalism, and free market ( ideas ) can't function when banks are controlled privately. They fund / direct energy to whatever movement or idea they want to come out on top. Even science works like this. It was all a set up from the start and we are stuck getting played by this sad joke ever since. Ive never been more certain that voting is meaningless apart from token resistance. Elon musk is probably just a front man for the actual rich, just like jeffrey epstein. We are supposed to believe royal & presidential famlies and people like bill gates, zuckerberg, bezos, buffet are the highlight of human intellect and performance. I dont buy it, they are bought puppets to parade for the public likely not as smart as we are supposed to believe which is why they are able to play their roles.

I just looked up the meaning of token resistance to check that it means what i intended it to mean, turns out its been co-opted by the marxist agenda, the irony of this is perfect for the clown society we live in. I do not want to say clown world because the world itself is good as its created by God with an abundance of beauty and more resources than we could wish for. If only humans & satans children could stop f.ing everything up for ourselves.

All we have left is the truth they own everything else. Despite this i am not blackpilled there are plenty of things to do, we have a lot of agency in our own lives to choose what is good and change our consumption and lifestyle patterns as a way to reject evil. Working on becomming a better follower of God as Charlie Kirk was an example of this.
 
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Flaming - 1 point. Tone it down.
Kevork should be doxxed and someone kill him. For some idiots this is free speech. Everytime someone says this is free speech. An add on a newspaper should be published with the adress of said person. With the title kill him. Hey free speech right?

Your right to a family life will be considered when they come up for removal. You'll be going back to Africa with them.
 
Dude chill I’m agreeing with you. And pointing out the stupidity considering free speech if someone threatens to kill another person. Free speech is not being allowed to doxx and instigate murder of someone else.
Roosh was one of the best example. One newspaper published his adress. That’s not reasonable. The proceedings/trials for liability for speech abuse. Should be shortened fast.

My idea of free speech was meant mostly against government. Not individuals. And at a certain level you can tolerate mockery, etc. When it comes to doxxing (publishing personal details, adress, etc) and instigating murder. It becomes an abusive exercise.

I think we both agree that free speech needs to be restricted. Unless I read wrong. Your position is more extreme but you are right.

It’s the second time something like this happens recently. Someone is attacked when agreeing.

I don’t have African blood. That I’m aware of. But I do want to go to serengeti one day.
 
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Can we not? Please.
Next time I will put (sarcasm) in the end.

If someone is instigating murder or doxxing other with the intent of harm they should be liable for it. And not covered by an outdated notion of free speech. Which doesn’t take into account the internet/social media multiplicator effect. Now you can spread a message in seconds to millions of people. Before this was impossible. Free speech is not for that. I think it was meant to be used as a criticism tool against government errors.

Instead of cancelling the stupid person he/she should pay damages to the person who suffers. There’s no accountability at this moment. Youre a journalist and because of that you can instigate murder??? Why? The journalist or reporter who makes threats. The individual who instigates murder. Needs to pay damages to the person targeted. To the person targeted.

Kimmel needs to pay damages to any individual or MAGA who can seriously demonstrate they suffered serious harm from his actions. Even though to me the worse is doxxing and instigate murder. Courts didn´t pay attention to it. And now it´s getting into a bigger problem.

If Roosh had his adress doxxed. What could be the intent of the newspaper? This is not reasonable. The journalist and reporter knew this could have disastrous consequences and need to be sanctioned. Not by cancelments. That´s the readers who decide. But by paying money for their actions. And this should be done fast and cheap. Because after 2/3 months the damage is not recoverable. This is corrosive to societies. The lack of accountability. And the cancel culture is even worse.

One thing is being wrong in a fraud case. Accusing someone of some mischief and being wrong. Another totally different is instigating the murder of someone. Or releasing his personal details with the intent of harm. Why not sue them? I asked Roosh. Why don´t you sue the f.

There is no slippery slope. Free speech was not constructed to be used this way. Has a blackmail tool. Has a scope to target different opinions. It was meant to disclose government fraud.

Law has to change. And update to modern world. Fast. The current system doesn´t work.
 
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Tyler Robinson was apparently a lying POS long before he became a murderous scumbag. Here he is trying to worm his way out of a traffic citation.

 
I don't view it that way. Having worked for rich and famous people I just call it like I see it. I'm just sitting here on an anonymous Internet forum spouting opinions and ideas. Knowing that the public figures I critique will never read what I write much less be hurt by it. If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it does it make a sound?

I'm actually quite tempered in what I say around here... If I gave my unfiltered thoughts and opinions I would no doubt be banned. And so there is no such thing as free speech unless you are willing to suffer the consequences. I am not, and so I temper my words.

What happened to Charlie Kirk is a very sad state of affairs. He did not deserve to die in the way in which he did simply for stating his opinions in public. However, to me he is a stranger to whom I have no emotional attachment. Something around this whole thing does not seem right. The confusing narrative surrounding his public assassination and what is now becoming an over reaction to one man's death all just seem too hyper emotional, yet at the same time devoid of any true emotion. In many ways this is starting to feel like a staged episode of MTV's The Real World. In the world in which I inhabit, every great and true person I've ever known grieves in private like a stoic... They do not go out in public announcing their grief and informing us of their future career and business plans.
I will say that something about the widow's speech a day after she witnessed her husband's public execution rubbed me the wrong way.
She seemed to be clearly acting to me. Said all the right words but it all felt like a show.

In any case, she didn't need to say anything to the press, she needed to stay quite and mourn her husband away from publicity. No one asked for her statement, no one will buy her being a leader in anything. She will spend the sympathy points she got very soon. Someone with gravitas (an actual male) needs to take over Charlie's organization.
 
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I will say that something about the widow's speech a day after she witnessed her husband's public execution rubbed me the wrong way.
She seemed to be clearly acting to me. Said all the right words but it all felt like a show.

In any case, she didn't need to say anything to the press, she needed to stay quite and mourn her husband away from publicity. No one asked for her statement, no one will buy her being a leader in anything. She will spend the sympathy points she got very soon. Someone with gravitas (an actual male) needs to take over her husband's organization.
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Whether there is conspiracy or not the Kirks are part of large moving machinery that is big enough to be out of their control at times - sort of like what happens with celebrities. And I assume there is a level of scripting and production going on in everything now as it would have been before. They were living a life of media production.

Another thing to consider is that she is probably medicated. We know a family that recently lost one of their children and the wife went into extreme shock. She was hospitalized and then kept medicated so she could at least function through the day for the next few weeks.
 
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Whether there is conspiracy or not the Kirks are part of large moving machinery that is big enough to be out of their control at times - sort of like what happens with celebrities. And I assume there is a level of scripting and production going on in everything now as it would have been before. They were living a life of media production.

Another thing to consider is that she is probably medicated. We know a family that recently lost one of their children and the wife went into extreme shock. She was hospitalized and then kept medicated so she could at least function through the day for the next few weeks.
I think you are probably correct. I don't know how she is able to stand up, make a speech, make decisions for her husband's funeral, take care of and try to guide her children throughout all of this. I really hope all of the Kirk family have strong support now and for the next few years. They are coping with the unimaginable. I cast no judgment on her as I can't even begin to think of how I would/could handle this horror. They are in my prayers.
 
the guy who blames israel for literally everything suddenly changes his tune.


I think Nick is doing the same thing he did during the Trump election. Where he pretended to be against Trump to confuse liberals into questioning their coding that tells them Trump is bad.

He's deliberately saying this because his leftwing enemies will assume he's wrong.

Now leftists and Muslims are arguing with him, and it's working like a charm. Guy is either the worst controlled opposition in history, or he's studying some Sun Tzu and Strategikon stuff.

 
I will say that something about the widow's speech a day after she witnessed her husband's public execution rubbed me the wrong way.
She seemed to be clearly acting to me. Said all the right words but it all felt like a show.
This is just a fact. I don't see how it is "passing judgement" and being "cruel" to state the obvious. Especially when everyone here are talking about complete strangers. Again, if you choose to grieve and live your life in public, be prepared to be criticized in public. Don't blame me that you have chosen to make your life known to me against my will in your pursuit of fame and now, as a result of your life choices, I have opinions about you and you have no idea that I exist. You, the fame seeker have created this dynamic, not me. I want nothing to do with your life, I wish I'd never heard of you as your existence in no way benefits me (in fact quite the opposite... fame seekers help destroy the social contract of a good society), it is you that have intentionally invaded my life and mental privacy in your quest to be known. And now that you have my attention that you've worked so desperately to acquire, you don't like it unless I agree with you and see the world through your eyes.

I don't know how she is able to stand up, make a speech, make decisions for her husband's funeral, take care of and try to guide her children throughout all of this.
Exactly. But when you really look at the situation objectively without emotion, a responsible adult runs to the woods with their millions and hides their children away from the world. The children come first. These children have already lost one parent to a series of poor choices, best not to double down and make it two. The Kirk's are clearly in way over their head. Best to cut and run, lick your wounds, and live to fight another day.
 
More jewish lies exposed by Candace... She also says that she "will not be speaking" in public while "attacking the feds" because that isn't smart or attending Charlie's memorial because the whole thing is "strange" and the amount of lies are making her "uncomfortable." She also stated that she got Charlie "in a lot of trouble" with the jews after she spoke at one of his events last year.

 
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