The Destruction of Modern Women

As for money and such, we have a long running bitcoin thread as well as a stock market thread. There's also threads on precious metals, saving up for retirement and other financial topics.

If the threads I presented above were instead were threads to vent about being fat and out of shape or about being poor then people would be calling these threads out as well. If I was poor and I wanted a thread specifically to vent and to complain about capitalism then I would rightfully be critiqued for constantly doing nothing but venting.
We can control those things. We can only strategize for the sabotage that has been done to women, so as to undermine a lot (not all, as most had not shot to start if we're honest) of men. And we can make others aware. A fix of course is men checking out and putting all women on notice. You know, what they need to see, experience, hear and feel. So they'll change. Simping or excuses otherwise just keeps the bad times going. This is actually productive if you are open.

My suspicion is as usual: people with kids and invested in the future hate that other men aren't going to help their future. This makes them worried, mad or emotional therefore about the realities put forth in the thread (including leaving the country entirely).
Are there problems with many men? Absolutely. Are there still nice women? Absolutely. Are any of the posters in this thread perfect? Far from it. But this specific thread is not intended to talk about that. If you do not like it, maybe put it on ignore.
Yup.
 
Would any man in this thread want to date or marry a woman who made hundreds of bitter posts in a thread titled something like, "Modern men are worthless pigs"? What would it say about the personality and character of such a woman that she felt compelled to continually dwell upon and vent about her anger and resentment toward men?

Inb4 "Oh but it's so different for women!"

Yes, it's different, but it's not that different. No one - male or female - wants to be involved in a relationship with a member of the opposite sex who is bitter, depressed and blackpilled.

Inb4, "We're not bitter, depressed and blackpilled, we're just being realistic!"

Bullshit. At least be honest with yourselves. Your attitudes are miserable. You're simultaneously obsessed with women but also hate them. That's a terrible psychological burden to be carrying around. It's not much different than the deranged leftists who in some cases have literally driven themselves into hysteria over Donald Trump. They hate him but they cannot stop thinking about him.

Inb4, "It's not fair, because we're biologically programmed to constantly think about women!"

As if you're the only men on the planet to struggle with lust? Get over yourselves. Try doing something productive with your time and energy instead of engaging in blackpill circle jerks online and you might be surprised how much of that sexual energy you can blow off.

Everyone is well aware of the problems modern men face with women/dating/marriage. Therefore, past a certain point, it does very little good to continually point out these problems, dwell on them and complain about them with each other. The problems are well-established. What is needed are solutions. And yet every time someone comes in here and offers some solutions, encouragement and productive suggestions, the usual crowd of blackpillers whine and shout them down, furious that their bitter echo chamber has been violated by those who refuse to surrender in the face of despair, and actually desire to help their fellows climb out of a dark hole rather than jump in and be miserable alongside them.

You've got the hand of cards you were dealt. It is what it is. All you can do is play them the best you can.

As the old saying goes, "Get busy living, or get busy dying." Too many guys in this thread are basically choosing a slow version of the latter, just surrendering to despair and encouraging one another in hopelessness. It's terrible to see, which is why you still have guys popping in trying to snap you all out of this blackpilled mode of thinking and get you instead focused on taking productive action, which, regardless of the state of the world, is the only thing you can ever do to positively impact your circumstances.
 
Sure thing. I go to a Bible study on Tuesdays, community group on Wednesdays through church (a girl from this group is actually going to teach me how to dance), dancing lessons at local bars another two to three nights a week. I go to church every Sunday and tomorrow is the first day of being a greeter. I was an usher at the previous church.

I moved to this town knowing no one, and during the Covid nonsense. It took a long time to become this confident, go through a lot of garbage and start meeting good people. It's all starting to pay off. But I don't blame anyone for needing a place to vent. A lot of men are going through hard times and have had to go through hard times.
 
I haven't seen anyone counter this, either. I defend AS a lot because I don't think he's a bad faith poster, he just tries to be honest from his own POV.
There’s no countering this. This forum decided to gang up on Australia Sucks when he made the datasheet threads accusing AS of fornicating even though there was nothing in the thread about fornicating. Now those same users either have disappeared or are ignoring it.
 
And yet every time someone comes in here and offers some solutions,
Haven't seen it. You didn't either, proving the hollowness of the anti-posting rhetoric.

Also, women don't engage in analysis. That's sorta the point. They just call a friend and blab forever, if that's their circle, friend, or thing.

Now, please excuse me while I go to a church service where there will be maybe 1-2% women aged 18-35. ;)
 
There’s no countering this. This forum decided to gang up on Australia Sucks when he made the datasheet threads accusing AS of fornicating even though there was nothing in the thread about fornicating. Now those same users either have disappeared or are ignoring it.


 
Haven't seen it. You didn't either, proving the hollowness of the anti-posting rhetoric.

Also, women don't engage in analysis. That's sorta the point. They just call a friend and blab forever, if that's their circle, friend, or thing.

Now, please excuse me while I go to a church service where there will be maybe 1-2% women aged 18-35. ;)


Brother.....multiple times I have very specifically stated that I come from a culture where all the good traits of women that many here are seeking are still valued and upheld and right here in the west. I've specifically stated this for a reason but I have not once been asked for input, I have not once been asked for advice, I have not once been engaged in any discussion whatsoever about it which may lead to help and insight for the men here.

Instead I was blasted for not having the same opinion, nothing else.....so that's it I just stopped posting in these threads and let you guys have it.
 
Haven't seen it. You didn't either, proving the hollowness of the anti-posting rhetoric.

Also, women don't engage in analysis. That's sorta the point. They just call a friend and blab forever, if that's their circle, friend, or thing.

Now, please excuse me while I go to a church service where there will be maybe 1-2% women aged 18-35. ;)

It's delusional to state that no one has presented solutions in these threads. I'm going to bow out, good luck to all of you.
 
That wasn’t in the datasheets thread.
 
Would any man in this thread want to date or marry a woman who made hundreds of bitter posts in a thread titled something like, "Modern men are worthless pigs"? What would it say about the personality and character of such a woman that she felt compelled to continually dwell upon and vent about her anger and resentment toward men?
I would actually not particularly mind. What matters is her faith and her disposition (willingness to submit). There are women I care about who struggle to find a man who is not a "player" or a spineless porn-addicted loser, and I am sympathetic to their plight.

I've met "I hate men, men are pigs" types before, and it's not hard to get them to like you. They've just been through a lot. They are generally quite pleasant to be around once they like you. The problem that makes them unmarriageable is their allegiance to feminist ideology, not the fact that they vent about bad experiences with men online (which they do, just not in old-school-style forums like this one.)
Inb4, "We're not bitter, depressed and blackpilled, we're just being realistic!"

Bullshit.
There's no need for cursing. Calm down a little.
At least be honest with yourselves. Your attitudes are miserable. You're simultaneously obsessed with women but also hate them. That's a terrible psychological burden to be carrying around. It's not much different than the deranged leftists who in some cases have literally driven themselves into hysteria over Donald Trump. They hate him but they cannot stop thinking about him.
As I've stated before, I am bitter about how the Jews have destroyed the marriage contract and bestowed undue power and privileges upon women. But I would not say I am bitter about women, nor "depressed and blackpilled", whatever the word "blackpilled" even means to you. I am most definitely not a miserable person. I get along with women just fine, and I don't lose sleep at night thinking about this stuff.

I have a normal life, I work, I am in good shape, I have hobbies, I talk to my friends, and sometimes I post on this forum. Oftentimes it's on this thread, not because this is a topic I am obsessed with, but because I don't really have time to follow more than a handful of threads, and this thread is by far the most active one out of the threads I follow. I mean, the anime thread is largely just me effortposting into the void. If you check, I think you'll find that my posts on this thread are often not even about women. Go back a couple pages on this thread and you'll see me effortposting about Indian engagement farms, discussing the effects of proper hydration on longevity, and so on.

I really don't know what your problem is or why you seem to love making assumptions and moral judgements about people, but it's getting really obnoxious.
And yet every time someone comes in here and offers some solutions, encouragement and productive suggestions, the usual crowd of blackpillers whine and shout them down, furious that their bitter echo chamber has been violated by those who refuse to surrender in the face of despair, and actually desire to help their fellows climb out of a dark hole rather than jump in and be miserable alongside them.
Now you're just lying through your teeth. You people don't come here with advice, you come here with name-calling and self-righteous finger-wagging, and get rightfully called out.

Some users, like Steady Hands, do post good and positive advice, which is why you don't see me giving him pushback like this. You and a few others, however, are not doing that. You're just getting weirdly angry for no reason and, in so many words, basically calling every regular poster here a loser despite not knowing anything about us. It's unseemly.
Everyone is well aware of the problems modern men face with women/dating/marriage.
It's obviously not "everyone." Some of us are not middle-aged redpill veterans and still learn new things from discussions about this topic, or simply want to share thoughts about various aspects of modern women.

Not everything has already been said, and talking about these things with like-minded men is helpful in organizing your thoughts and receiving feedback when one of your thoughts is simply not correct or rational, so you can weed it out.
 
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There's no need for cursing. Calm down a little.

I really don't know what your problem is or why you seem to love making assumptions and moral judgements about people, but it's getting really obnoxious.

Now you're just lying through your teeth. You people don't come here with advice, you come here with name-calling and self-righteous finger-wagging, and get rightfully called out.
Really not the way to be talking to people around here. Take some time to reconsider your approach.
 
all out of this blackpilled mode of thinking and get you instead focused on taking productive action,
Who says we are not taking action? You are presenting a false dichotomy. I specifically addressed this point in my previous post which you seem to have ignored. The point is you can walk and chew gum at the same time. It is possible to save money every month (towards early retirement) and go the gym regularly, learn new languages etc while still posting on this thread to talk about how bad most modern women are a few times per week. I mean yes if somebody was posting on this thread 10 times every single day then you there is legitimate reason for concern but at this point you are just concern trolling. Most guys on this thread are taking action in the background.

Furthermore all the facets about taking productive action as a man are already in their own specific threads so no point in posting about them here. To maximize your chances of finding the right woman you want have good health, money, multiple language fluency, live in the right location, approach enough women, etc. I have contributed on the forum to threads such as the Bitcoin thread, lifters lounge, the mixed martial arts thread, the stock market and economy threads, relocation threads, etc
 
Brother.....multiple times I have very specifically stated that I come from a culture where all the good traits of women that many here are seeking are still valued and upheld and right here in the west. I've specifically stated this for a reason but I have not once been asked for input, I have not once been asked for advice, I have not once been engaged in any discussion whatsoever about it which may lead to help and insight for the men here.

Instead I was blasted for not having the same opinion, nothing else.....so that's it I just stopped posting in these threads and let you guys have it.
No one asked you about it because you already posted about how its a closed off social circle and a traditional Chaldean girl will only marry a Chaldean man. So basically be born into the right ethnicity/social circle and if not then tough luck? How is that knowledge useful to any of us in any way?
 
No one asked you about it because you already posted about how its a closed off social circle and a traditional Chaldean girl will only marry a Chaldean man. So basically be born into the right ethnicity/social circle and if not then tough luck? How is that knowledge useful to any of us in any way?

Not true and that was only very recently that I made those comments and it wasn't in this context anyway it was in regards to MSFT nonsensical concept of "race purity" and I was pointing out the incredible hypocrisy and ignorance of it. Regardless it may be looked down upon but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen and there are many intricacies it's not cut and dry. I know how it works in these circles, I know what it takes to marry a girl from one of these cultures, I know what they ask, what they look for and what they expect of you. Even if it's something you don't want to hear it doesn't mean it's not useful information, a hell of lot more useful than whatever it is you're getting here.

For you specifically go read that thread you started up there and look at my replies to you, you never bothered to even comment back to me all you cared about was saving face and arguing. You want to hear what you want to hear and that's it, whether it's "go to another country you'll find a girl" or "don't waste your time in the west", that's all you want. When in reality there is so much you don't understand about those things especially the former.

Can't say I didn't try, I tried from day one it's right there for you to see....you just didn't want to hear it and that hasn't changed.



It's Easter heading to my uncles, hope you have a beautiful day regardless of what you do or don't believe. He is risen!
 
Regardless it may be looked down upon but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen and there are many intricacies it's not cut and dry. I know how it works in these circles, I know what it takes to marry a girl from one of these cultures, I know what they ask, what they look for and what they expect of you.
Do you care to elaborate then for the benefit of forum members?
 
I just wanted to share some thoughts on this topic. Some of this I might have said before, but I want to make sure to share this out there for public consumption in case I did not.

#1) In my experience, women are becoming easier to deal with in the USA. It might just be the region I am, but I think this is due to a combination of a few things...

a) Women have now put career first and career is no longer fun time at work, with a trash economy and millions of immigrants coming in, they are struggling to keep their head above water. Many joke they want a sugar daddy, but deep down most don't want a life style like this. They want a man who can help bail them out. While this isn't an idea situation, it is an opportunity for men that didn't exist 10 years ago.

b) More women stayed single longer chasing a career, and now there are more late 20's-early 30's women, who have some real-life experience, who can actually appreciate a good man v. 20 years ago. I meet lots of women like this. The behavior and attitude difference of most women in this age range and women in their early 20's is often very different and much more reasonable.

c) Fewer and fewer men have a ton of disposable income and while women don't like this reality, they are coming to accept it more and more. Your competition is not as stark as you might imagine, most guys are hurting right now.

#2) As a man you must always be trying to grow and improve. This was true for all human history. Yes, men got married young, but they had to grow and improve, often still learning from their fathers and other older men, well into their 30's. Being a man is like being and Oak tree. It is a slow and long growth, but when you finally get there, you are sturdy and strong to survive the storms life throws at you. This includes improvement in physical, mental, financial, spiritual, as all these will be very important if you want to become a father.

#3) Patience, it just takes time, and in today's world it takes longer than ever before because men are held back so much. It is very tough as well, in your 20's your hormones are raging, but if you can battle through and grow and learn, the patience will pay off big time. I am in my late 40's and just feel like I am hitting my stride. And due to a few things, I feel I am probably experience attention from women most other men never experience. A lot of it is because I am tall and decent looking. I dress nice, I work out and eat religiously, and I work on my posture. Women notice this very quickly.

#4) Confidence and posture. These are probably the two things women notice first and find attractive. This will come from discipline, hard work, and the slow growth of believing in yourself. For the "natural" guys this comes to naturally, they might get lucky, find someone young and be done with it. If not, they will likely crash and burn as life disappoints them and have to start over like the rest of us. Chest out, walk with a purpose, each step, be friendly and have a look of confidence and happiness/peace in your eyes, and be in no hurry to respond to others to keep from buying into their frame.

#5) Working out. You should be trying to be as physically imposing as possible if you want to attract women. The larger and fitter you look, the more women notice. I am lucky to be tall. When I go thin, or have in the past, I become invisible to women. When I bulk up, women's eyes fall all over me. The difference is stark, shocking, almost should be a case study. I wouldn't mine losing 10 pounds for my joints and for jumping ability, and most of that weight would be muscle if I were to lose it. But I am keeping it on because I am trying to find the right woman and it opens up more possibilities for me.
Great post. Thank you
 
To be fair, this applies to some of your posts as well. You made some wild accusations that couldn't be further from the truth.
Yes, can we please not let this devolve into everyone doing the same things but then accusations happening, and worse, action on others that are just doing the same thing, like the hierarchical suspending, banning, etc.

I still haven't read a reason why this thread is so bad or that others have to come in to it, or get so bothered by guys talking about the realities of modern, western women. Why is it so bothersome?
 
It's delusional to state that no one has presented solutions in these threads.
I'm OK with being corrected, but I've put forth the solution for me and others, which many agree with (just try overseas or just live a life of freedom). The other stuff I don't see, especially if you are already over 35 years of age in the west, which sorta proves my point (that's not old for a man, quite the contrary). It's not "young" but it is a clear comment on the culture or society being against men in general to DQ them even at that age (except for a 35 yo career woman who will do basically nothing for your life for a ton of return/commitment and more).
 
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