This is 100% correct. Any woman with decent net worth or high income has either been raised in a rich family and is likely spoiled, divorce raped a man or is an insufferable career woman. None of them are good options. Focus on getting wealthy before looking for a woman to marry.
Older Men, Younger Women
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I want to add, for the younger guys on here, I am in my late 40's and I have women 20 years younger than me hitting on me a lot. There are a few reasons this seems to be true, so I hope this gives you hope and it gives you a start down the right path.
I have always worked out and ate healthy. I am a big believer in stoicism, not searching for outside pleasure but happiness from accomplishment and within. This is a lot easier as you get older and your hormones slow down. But working out, eating right, taking care of yourself, being positive, learning philosophy and applying it to your life, it will allow you to age much more gracefully. Your confidence will grow and your dependence on a woman to feel happy will subside. It is a long path, but one well worth it. Do a workout routine you enjoy, don't make it a chore, make it something you enjoy and you look forward to and it keeps you lose and in shape.
It also seems to becoming less taboo for younger women to date older guys in the USA. I think this is largely due to economic difficulties and reality setting in that a 25 year old guy simply cannot afford a home and a family but a 35+ year old guy can, if he lived the right way. So, save your money, invest, spend every day growing, if a good one comes a long, great, otherwise focus on your financial and fitness goals and the busier you stay, the less you feel lonely.
Don't get into a rush or think your time is limited, you have a lot of time as a man to grow. Many scientists don't belive our brains are finished developing unti our early 30's. So, focus on yourself and what you want out of life and the more you do this, the clearer things become, the more you will know what kind of woman you want and the more likely you will know where to find her.
I know guys in their 50's getting women in their 20's and they are not super rich or being take advantage of. Women naturally want a man, and most men their own age, especially in this society, are not mature enough to interest them. Also, the older guys offer confidence, financial stability, a relaxed no pressure atmosphere, and a go with the flow feeling that women all crave.
Take your time, figure yourself out, and if a woman that fits you comes a long, great, if not, wait until your goals are met and then you can make a move with a full arsenal on your side.
I have always worked out and ate healthy. I am a big believer in stoicism, not searching for outside pleasure but happiness from accomplishment and within. This is a lot easier as you get older and your hormones slow down. But working out, eating right, taking care of yourself, being positive, learning philosophy and applying it to your life, it will allow you to age much more gracefully. Your confidence will grow and your dependence on a woman to feel happy will subside. It is a long path, but one well worth it. Do a workout routine you enjoy, don't make it a chore, make it something you enjoy and you look forward to and it keeps you lose and in shape.
It also seems to becoming less taboo for younger women to date older guys in the USA. I think this is largely due to economic difficulties and reality setting in that a 25 year old guy simply cannot afford a home and a family but a 35+ year old guy can, if he lived the right way. So, save your money, invest, spend every day growing, if a good one comes a long, great, otherwise focus on your financial and fitness goals and the busier you stay, the less you feel lonely.
Don't get into a rush or think your time is limited, you have a lot of time as a man to grow. Many scientists don't belive our brains are finished developing unti our early 30's. So, focus on yourself and what you want out of life and the more you do this, the clearer things become, the more you will know what kind of woman you want and the more likely you will know where to find her.
I know guys in their 50's getting women in their 20's and they are not super rich or being take advantage of. Women naturally want a man, and most men their own age, especially in this society, are not mature enough to interest them. Also, the older guys offer confidence, financial stability, a relaxed no pressure atmosphere, and a go with the flow feeling that women all crave.
Take your time, figure yourself out, and if a woman that fits you comes a long, great, if not, wait until your goals are met and then you can make a move with a full arsenal on your side.
At this point my friend, there's no reason to introduce more restrictions on your ability to find women. Just take your time and build your stacks, as others have told you.
I guess I have to go to your region, as I don't experience much of this, but admittedly I'm not out and about a ton, which is a problem of course.
I predicted that this might turn out to be the case, but I still don't see it. I'm honestly curious where you are.
This all makes sense, but I don't see it much in the real world.
Fertility also affects men as well so waiting into your 40s can also be detrimental for a man. There is a sweet spot and men aren't given free passes either when it comes to fertility.
Its generally not a deciding factor. Any man who looks after his health provided his genetics are not too faulty can generally have kids into his 50s and sometimes even 60s and beyond. Albeit it will probably take somewhat longer to conceive than it would for a younger man. Yes fertility will decrease for men (sperm count, sperm motility, etc) but not enough to stop them having kids.
I wouldn't bank on that. And if you find out there are problems late then you're sunk.
I definitely wouldn't bank on that to build wealth, which I'm not even sure how she knows about it anyway without you bragging or showboating.
I think in the scenario I am thinking of wealth is kind of implied. If you are retired at age 40 then when a woman asks "what you do for work?" and you say "I am retired" the woman would generally speaking naturally assume you must have certain level of wealth to retire that early. You do not even have to brag or showboat.
Ok, but saving enough money to be able to retire before finding a woman seems really nutty to me (retiring comfortably at that age to me > $2-3 million).
There are maybe a few professions you could take up that would imply wealth. Also significant advanced degrees. Business ownership in itself can be deceiving (although most girls are pretty brainless about this kind of stuff).
But other than that, no girl would ever know anything about my assets. And I definitely wouldn't be buying luxury goods.
That depends on where you are planning to retire. If you are in a third world or even second tier country then $1.5 million should be enough. For example in countries like Romania, Colombia, Hungary, Vietnam, etc $1.5 million should be enough for a comfortable middle class retirement. $2 - 3 million is really only necessary if you want to retire in a first world/first tier country (U.S.A., Australia, France, etc) which I have no intention of doing.
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Just kidding my bros. A mature lady in her mid thirties is just what I will be looking for...
I am in the midwest, but where I see the most single women is the urban blue area. Unfortunately, women are just not logical, so they all run off to the least family friendly areas, to focus on a career, and then realize a career is nothing more than a McJob and then they start to take men more seriously as they enter their late 20's.
When I traveled to the east coast, it was much better there for men. I am told Europe is much better than the east coast. I'm out a lot, and my 2nd job is very social, so I meet a lot of people. I think women are much more accepting of age differences than they were 20 years ago, but you have to have financial success as well. Not be rich, but secure and allow them to feel secure and safe around you. To be honest, at the end of the day, it seems like what women desire the most from men is security.
I think the sweet spot age for women is about 28-32, where they have experienced enough life and matured enough to become good and appreciative women. If you can find a good one when you are young, then go for it. Just most guys will not, because the society is skewed so heavily against them.
Instagram jokes are fine and dandy but I’m serious. Before I found Christ I was a F boy, and went through all ages, all races and all financial brackets. Let me be clear that the only time I felt any kind of accomplishment was when the woman was either richer than me or somewhat famous, or had a history of dating men more successful than me but still wanted me. It was never about looks, they all looked good.
Even nowadays - I met a 24 year old not too long ago but all she kept talking about was men buying her stuff. I never bought her anything but we also didn’t last more than a few weeks. It’s not hard to find a young chick, but their brains are completely fried. The chick im dating now is 38, has a lot of family assets, on our 2nd date she paid for dinner - she instinctively knows that to lock a high value man down she has to bring high value of her own. Not saying I’m completely happy with her, because I’m not. The fact that she’s my age bothers me mentally, I feel a little embarrassed. So I’m Still out playing the field, thinking I can do better, but who knows.
In regards to having kids - for the last few years I’ve been hearing more and more about how great IVF works - not only when the parents are older, but even just to make sure the baby is 100% healthy and there are no genetic surprises. So I’m leaning towards doing that anyway, so at least in that regard the mothers age isn’t an argument.
Even nowadays - I met a 24 year old not too long ago but all she kept talking about was men buying her stuff. I never bought her anything but we also didn’t last more than a few weeks. It’s not hard to find a young chick, but their brains are completely fried. The chick im dating now is 38, has a lot of family assets, on our 2nd date she paid for dinner - she instinctively knows that to lock a high value man down she has to bring high value of her own. Not saying I’m completely happy with her, because I’m not. The fact that she’s my age bothers me mentally, I feel a little embarrassed. So I’m Still out playing the field, thinking I can do better, but who knows.
In regards to having kids - for the last few years I’ve been hearing more and more about how great IVF works - not only when the parents are older, but even just to make sure the baby is 100% healthy and there are no genetic surprises. So I’m leaning towards doing that anyway, so at least in that regard the mothers age isn’t an argument.
Initial impressions never change. If you are embarrassed that doesn't change.
I had no reservations at all with my wife. That's the huge difference between any other woman. My advice.
Additionally, IVF is anti-Christian as it's tied to abortion/fetal loss. This is a Christian forum. That's not supported here. And yes, the mother's age is ALWAYS an argument.
It is? We need a thread on this.
And yet, I've seen and met men who've had large families well into their fifties. The common denominator? Young wife (20 years younger).
In the US the only older guys I see with younger women are very well put together. Not just financially, but also physically. They're in shape, know how to dress, and mostly just got lucky with their genetics.
Some of my friends peaked in their early 20s started balding by their mid to late 20s, and look over 5 years older than they actually are. Other guys peak in their thirties and maintain a youthful appearance for a decently long time after. You have some control over this with diet, exercise, etc. But mostly it's out of your control. Unlike women who all peak in their early twenties, men have much more variance.
Women under 25 are incredibly childish, almost like a 16 year old girl. But they're hot and more fun to be around. Women over 25 can be bitter, but much less chaotic. But they will still be childish at times.
Women are usually a pain in the butt either way. Just find the least annoying one in her 20s.
Women are usually a pain in the butt either way. Just find the least annoying one in her 20s.
Yeah I had no idea. Would like to hear more.
Yes, I agree. And there is no reason for a man to not do all his best, if he is single, to make himself as well put together as he can. We can't control genetics, we can control choices. There is no reason to not be eating healthy foods and being active. It is a matter of choice. If you can't afford to wear clothes that look good on you, unfortunately most women are not going to see you as a potential provider. I don't think being bald matters all that much, as long as you shave it, accept it, and own it. I can't say, luckily I still have a full head of hair.
If you do all the right things, live a stoic life of work and toil for the longer term, eat right, be active, dress nice, your confidence will grow due to kicking any dopamine dependence. You have done everything possible and if someone doesn't think it is good enough, to hell with them. Women will notice this quickly and be interested.
It has taken me decades to get this to come fully to the surface, for a lot of reasons. This isn't a quick fix, but it is the right and only path. Otherwise, you will be constantly questioning yourself, and that will increase when you find a woman, wondering if she really likes you or is interested in another man. Landing a woman doesn't solve your problems, it solves some and introduces another set of them, and once you master yourself, then you can deal with these issues as they come up and that will make her even more attracted to you.
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You think that amount might be enough to last you now as a single man until you retire, wait until you have a wife and kids all that money will go very fast I dont think its a good idea to retire before you even get married, your wife and family are going to need a lot of stuff keep those millions for emergencies they will come in very handy.