The Barbarian Invasion of Europe

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This thread is a continuation of the thread on the legacy RVF, that was started in 2016 when the childless Chancellor Angela Merkel invited hundreds of thousands of single, excess men of fighting age into Europe. The sheer size of the invasion, the role of the EU and the NGOs probably provided the electoral edge that caused the Brexit.

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I hear so much about this not even on this (and old) forum but I'd like to hear how it is on the ground in mainly Italy (Sardinia), France, Spain and other Southern European countries. How bad is it in the small towns etc? Are there families around? How do the locals deal with these "immigrants"?
 
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I hear so much about this not even on this (and old) forum but I'd like to hear how it is on the ground in mainly Italy, France Spain and other Southern European countries. How bad is it in the small towns etc? Are there families around? How do the locals deal with these "immigrants"?
I can speak for Italy, since I am there on a pretty frequent basis. Italy is mainly being overrun by Africans, not Middle Easterners. There are a ton of Nigerians there, for example...all milling about, many looking for work, but most never finding any. I'll be honest, I don't think they are any more of a threat of danger than the tons of gypsies in Italy, to be honest. The Italians don't want them, but pretend to be nice and tolerate them, I guess hoping they'll eventually go away. No one hires them, because no one wants them sticking around. So a lot of them end up selling drugs and/or doing drugs and then causing violent disturbances in the streets. They seem to be more of an issue in big cities. In the small towns you might see a few wandering around, but I have not seen them causing problems there.
 
I can speak for Italy, since I am there on a pretty frequent basis. Italy is mainly being overrun by Africans, not Middle Easterners. There are a ton of Nigerians there, for example...all milling about, many looking for work, but most never finding any. I'll be honest, I don't think they are any more of a threat of danger than the tons of gypsies in Italy, to be honest. The Italians don't want them, but pretend to be nice and tolerate them, I guess hoping they'll eventually go away. No one hires them, because no one wants them sticking around. So a lot of them end up selling drugs and/or doing drugs and then causing violent disturbances in the streets. They seem to be more of an issue in big cities. In the small towns you might see a few wandering around, but I have not seen them causing problems there.

I was looking at Sardinia, got a family of 4 children looking for better pastures after the lockdown tyranny in Australia. Not afraid of learning a new language. Enough capital to buy a decent house but will need to find work of course!
 
This thread is a continuation of the thread on the legacy RVF, that was started in 2016 when the childless Chancellor Angela Merkel invited hundreds of thousands of single, excess men of fighting age into Europe. The sheer size of the invasion, the role of the EU and the NGOs probably provided the electoral age that caused the Brexit.

How do you see this working itself out in Europe during the decade? Do the UK, France and Germany mostly descend into chaos? Do they re-order their countries during a time of world war? Will famine, energy, plague and other crises in combination with war markedly reduce population?
 
Italy and spain are are less worse off than the northern countries for two reasons 1 their economies and social welfare states are less attractive so migrants always have their sights on getting further up north it was never their intended end goal 2 the northern countries already started inviting guest workers from morroco, turkiye and former colonies in the 1960's.

the italian and spanish may receive the migrants fresh of the boat with a lot of show in recent years but these migrants by and large are still like fish on land. They dont speak any of the european languages, they dont know how far they can push things yet, they havent had time to analyze the cultures theyre dealing with and how to exploit it. This makes these boat migrants less confident, a bit unsure and they are very clearly in a seperate and much lower class from the natives. they still apear very much alien.

Meanwhile in northern european countries there are several generations of migrants already embedded deeply in every part of society, they ''speak'' the local language, they know exactly how the natives think and how to push their buttons and how far they can go. Which results in them feeling and acting like they own the place. And the local populations have become used to their presence and accept it without a second thought. Any new boat migrants arriving will be emboldened by these already established brown people and options for guidance and examples. The path has already been laid out for them.

Its far more painfull to see this '' integrated '' and widespread difuse diversity everywhere than it is to see a bunch of clearly struggling black africans that stand out like sore thumbs being lost and clumping together hanging out near train stations and other hotspots but generally not being part of the country outside of that

in nothern europe the migrants are the maffia, in italy and spain the local maffia exploits the migrants at least for now

an african eating in an italian restaurant would look wildly out of place, this would be normal in the north
 
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I was looking at Sardinia, got a family of 4 children looking for better pastures after the lockdown tyranny in Australia. Not afraid of learning a new language. Enough capital to buy a decent house but will need to find work of course!
I have been to Sardinia a few times, and even in remote corners of it. I would stay away from Cagliari (which nouveau-riches Russians have bought huge swaths of anyhow), and stick to the smaller less touristy locations. You don't have to travel far inland to be REALLY in the wilderness in Sardinia. It may be a part of Italy, but it feels like another country completely. I have seen the occasional African male sitting around in places such as Carloforte, and they just look forlorn and lost, honestly. They'd probably be happy to be hired on as a manual laborer to help you build your dream home. My experience in Sicily has been different: there you will see more North Africans, Muslims, Arabs, but again, if you get out of the main cities, you'll be fine. Sicily is also a stunning place. Unfortunately, you probably won't find work in Italy...because there isn't much to be had. Best option is to work remotely, or be willing to teach English, which unfortunately doesn't pay much.
 
I have been to Sardinia a few times, and even in remote corners of it. I would stay away from Cagliari (which nouveau-riches Russians have bought huge swaths of anyhow), and stick to the smaller less touristy locations. You don't have to travel far inland to be REALLY in the wilderness in Sardinia. It may be a part of Italy, but it feels like another country completely. I have seen the occasional African male sitting around in places such as Carloforte, and they just look forlorn and lost, honestly. They'd probably be happy to be hired on as a manual laborer to help you build your dream home. My experience in Sicily has been different: there you will see more North Africans, Muslims, Arabs, but again, if you get out of the main cities, you'll be fine. Sicily is also a stunning place. Unfortunately, you probably won't find work in Italy...because there isn't much to be had. Best option is to work remotely, or be willing to teach English, which unfortunately doesn't pay much.

Thanks for that. I just read Italy has mandatory vaccinations for children so there's less and less countries to choose from!

Spain doesnt do mandatory vaxxes do you or anyone else have any experiences with Spain? I visited Spain about 15 years ago and thought it was a beautiful country but a lot can change in such a time. We also looked at Portugal but it will have uber high taxes from next year on which is a shame.
 
Italy and spain are are less worse off than the northern countries for two reasons 1 their economies and social welfare states are less attractive so migrants always have their sights on getting further up north it was never their intended end goal 2 the northern countries already started inviting guest workers from morroco, turkiye and former colonies in the 1960's.

the italian and spanish may receive the migrants fresh of the boat with a lot of show in recent years but these migrants by and large are still like fish on land. They dont speak any of the european languages, they dont know how far they can push things yet, they havent had time to analyze the cultures theyre dealing with and how to exploit it. This makes these boat migrants less confident, a bit unsure and they are very clearly in a seperate and much lower class from the natives. they still apear very much alien.

Meanwhile in northern european countries there are several generations of migrants already embedded deeply in every part of society, they ''speak'' the local language, they know exactly how the natives think and how to push their buttons and how far they can go. Which results in them feeling and acting like they own the place. And the local populations have become used to their presence and accept it without a second thought. Any new boat migrants arriving will be emboldened by these already established brown people and options for guidance and examples. The path has already been laid out for them.

Its far more painfull to see this '' integrated '' and widespread difuse diversity everywhere than it is to see a bunch of clearly struggling black africans that stand out like sore thumbs being lost and clumping together hanging out near train stations and other hotspots but generally not being part of the country outside of that

in nothern europe the migrants are the maffia, in italy and spain the local maffia exploits the migrants at least for now

an african eating in an italian restaurant would look wildly out of place, this would be normal in the north
Just the fact that these Africans are there in large numbers ruins the allure of Italy...what I remember it to be like in the movies.
 
Thanks for that. I just read Italy has mandatory vaccinations for children so there's less and less countries to choose from!

Spain doesnt do mandatory vaxxes do you or anyone else have any experiences with Spain? I visited Spain about 15 years ago and thought it was a beautiful country but a lot can change in such a time. We also looked at Portugal but it will have uber high taxes from next year on which is a shame.
I have no experience with the Iberian peninsula. Sorry. In my personal opinion your best bet is to look to Eastern Europe or the Balkans. They are in Europe but not necessarily part of the EU and their globalist overreach. Thing about Serbia, Croatia (more expensive), Romania, Greece, or even Hungary, which is totally doing its own thing. Land is cheaper, people are more traditional and religious, and there are far fewer migrants.
 
I have no experience with the Iberian peninsula. Sorry. In my personal opinion your best bet is to look to Eastern Europe or the Balkans. They are in Europe but not necessarily part of the EU and their globalist overreach. Thing about Serbia, Croatia (more expensive), Romania, Greece, or even Hungary, which is totally doing its own thing. Land is cheaper, people are more traditional and religious, and there are far fewer migrants.

Unfortunately all those countries have mandatory vaccinations and we don't vax our children for anything. I might start a vaxx thread.
 
Unfortunately all those countries have mandatory vaccinations and we don't vax our children for anything. I might start a vaxx thread.
According to the map you posted in the other new thread, it appears that Romania does not enforce childhood vaccinations. Neither does Georgia. Both of those are Orthodox countries. Georgia also has a very liberal open-door immigration policy to most 5-eye countries. 1 year residence on a renewable tourist visa. Climate and cuisine are world-class.
 
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Meanwhile in northern european countries there are several generations of migrants already embedded deeply in every part of society, they ''speak'' the local language, they know exactly how the natives think and how to push their buttons and how far they can go. Which results in them feeling and acting like they own the place. And the local populations have become used to their presence and accept it without a second thought. Any new boat migrants arriving will be emboldened by these already established brown people and options for guidance and examples. The path has already been laid out for them.
These are very insightful and important points. It also reminded me of why you can't really bring women back to the west, or it's a danger/no-no.

Having any type of helpful connection makes being in a foreign country exponentially easier. I'm thinking about different countries to consider for being abroad for traditional women, and that very topic comes up all the time, so it is easily verifiable even in personal experience how important it might be for any given person.

This modern, globalist mess is really crazy in that I don't really see where it leads. It could be really bad, especially in the next few years, or just devolve and degrade slowly over time, but with a new, heightened stress that becomes "normal." That depends somewhat on how much the population survives in all of these places/countries/regions over the next decade, to be honest.
 
Apparently, you can buy a house in Sicily, Italy, for one Euro.



Oh come onnnn… do I have to really spell out what everyone else is thinking watching this video? 😂

Yes, very nice..... uuuhhhm…. house.... ahem.

Seriously though, I’ve heard about this project a year or two ago and was considering it as a possibility. However given what’s going on in Italy I had my doubts that the tranquility would last long until another Eurocrat administration would flood the countryside with more enrichment.
 
How do you see this working itself out in Europe during the decade? Do the UK, France and Germany mostly descend into chaos? Do they re-order their countries during a time of world war? Will famine, energy, plague and other crises in combination with war markedly reduce population?

OK, let me answer this for you in one simple sentence: 50 years from now most if not all of West/Northern Europe will be an Islamic shit hole. Plan accordingly.
 
Oh come onnnn… do I have to really spell out what everyone else is thinking watching this video? 😂

Yes, very nice..... uuuhhhm…. house.... ahem.

Seriously though, I’ve heard about this project a year or two ago and was considering it as a possibility. However given what’s going on in Italy I had my doubts that the tranquility would last long until another Eurocrat administration would flood the countryside with more enrichment.
I quite like it and don't see anything negative about the house, it will look much different in a few years of work. i have also thought of doing this but for the same reasons as you am hesitant about making such commitments knowing what we know about our governments. Knowledge is a blessing but also a burden.

They seem a bit naive but are doing good things for the world and setting an example. I don't see a reason to be negative about that.

its admirable that young people move to these dying out villages and try to rebuild and repopulate it. Going against the trends of society. much better than moving into the capital cities and contributing to the housing problems and exposing your family to risks and degenerate influences.

They will still be the last to be flooded by migrants in their remote small village. If you are determined to stay in your home country its probably the best option available. And the one always advocated for other than going abroad away from the west. Move far away from big cities, become part of a small community and try to be self sufficient. what else are they supposed to do ?.
 
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OK, let me answer this for you in one simple sentence: 50 years from now most if not all of West/Northern Europe will be an Islamic shit hole. Plan accordingly.

Yeah but most of these populations will be in Capital cities and are looking at being nuked or drafted into WW3 (which WILL happen this century).

I'd say the 1 Euro option is the least bad option if someone is stuck in Europe.
 
I quite like it and don't see anything negative about the house, it will look much different in a few years of work. i have also thought of doing this but for the same reasons as you am hesitant about making such commitments knowing what we know about our governments. Knowledge is a blessing but also a burden.

They seem a bit naive but are doing good things for the world and setting an example. I don't see a reason to be negative about that.

its admirable that young people move to these dying out villages and try to rebuild and repopulate it. Going against the trends of society. much better than moving into the capital cities and contributing to the housing problems and exposing your family to risks and degenerate influences.

They will still be the last to be flooded by migrants in their remote small village. If you are determined to stay in your home country its probably the best option available. And the one always advocated for other than going abroad away from the west. Move far away from big cities, become part of a small community and try to be self sufficient. what else are they supposed to do ?.

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I'm quite sure that holgerdanske was making a reference to the wife's ...uuuhhhm... construction, not the house's. That was my first reaction from watching it.



Also, I thought the house was a good candidate for a fixup.
 
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