The Destruction of Modern Women

[thinkreadwritecode]

I assume the "who wants to tell her" has to do with the guy possibly already having a girlfriend and now testing this other woman out, a male version of monkey branching?

I still find Hoemath's visual on men who are 7s and below as "not people" to be incredibly helpful. This woman is asking "are men not putting in the effort anymore" when in reality she is asking "are attractive, desirable men I want not putting in the effort?" It's such a nice heuristic because I come across a lot of videos or things online where women are addressing "men."

 

[eradicator]

I assume the "who wants to tell her" has to do with the guy possibly already having a girlfriend and now testing this other woman out, a male version of monkey branching?

I still find Hoemath's visual on men who are 7s and below as "not people" to be incredibly helpful. This woman is asking "are men not putting in the effort anymore" when in reality she is asking "are attractive, desirable men I want not putting in the effort?" It's such a nice heuristic because I come across a lot of videos or things online where women are addressing "men."

I’m pretty sure the “who wants to tell her” , refers to that she is no longer in the 18 to 25 range of desirable women. Or heck, you can make the argument that women under 30 or even under 35 can still be pretty hot, and will not have a shortage of men actively pursuing them.

In this case, the man she is pursuing, she’s pretty far down on his roster, for obvious reasons. He considered her as an option for casual sex, so long as he has to put zero effort into the meet ups. That’s her reality.

 

[Australia Sucks]

I’m pretty sure the “who wants to tell her” , refers to that she is no longer in the 18 to 25 range of desirable women. Or heck, you can make the argument that women under 30 or even under 35 can still be pretty hot, and will not have a shortage of men actively pursuing them.

In this case, the man she is pursuing, she’s pretty far down on his roster, for obvious reasons. He considered her as an option for casual sex, so long as he has to put zero effort into the meet ups. That’s her reality.

The problem is women’s egos are far too big. She could pick a far more average guy and he would take her out on dates and actually be nice to her. But of course in her mind being ignored by Chad is better than dating a 5/10 average man who she considers as not human.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

I assume the "who wants to tell her" has to do with the guy possibly already having a girlfriend and now testing this other woman out...

I’m pretty sure the “who wants to tell her” , refers to that she is no longer in the 18 to 25 range of desirable women...

All plausible, but my first reaction was that this guy never had any real interest in her outside of sex and told her a bunch of lies just so he could pump and dump her. Obviously he was successful in achieving his goal and now she's butt hurt because she put out too soon (but guaranteed deep down she knew he just wanted to bang but couldn't resist her own sex addiction urges). She starts off by saying "I was seeing this guy for about a month," which is code for she was banging him. She's a 36 year-old cute little blonde slut living in San Diego who's been riding the c*ck carousel since she was 16 and now she's realizing she's hitting the wall. This guy must have been more physically attractive than her, and was probably out of her league (which is why she's panicking).

I find it hilarious that he was able to nail her a bunch of times and never had to leave his couch. Just cost him a few rounds of takeout... Chad status confirmed. Oh well, it takes two degenerates to tango. Guaranteed she learned nothing and probably got her fifth case of climidia in the process.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

All plausible, but my first reaction was that this guy never had any real interest in her outside of sex and told her a bunch of lies just so he could pump and dump her.

Long before I found the church, I had a date back in 2002 with a girl I found on Match.com. She was 6/10 (at least 1 point higher than this girl from San Diego), good personality, sexy voice and no vocal fry like San Diego because it did not exist back then the way it does now.

After a few e-mails and a couple of phone calls, we had a normal first date at a casual restaurant and things were good. Called her a few days later for a second date (I had no cell phone and had never texted) and it turned out we lived around the corner from each other.

She suggested coming over so we could plan the date together and find some interesting places in the city to visit because she was born there and I was a newcomer. I said sure, come over.

She showed up barefoot, in her pyjamas and prominently holding a tooth brush in her right hand, which was sort of shocking to me. That was the first time I'd ever had a blind date or found one online.

You don't need to lie to girls unless your SMV is lower than hers.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

You don't need to lie to girls unless your SMV is lower than hers.

Right, which can be an actual fact or just a low self-esteem state of mind. For example, I came from a broken home and grew up living with an emotionally unintelligent single mother who had no money or status. As such, I always felt "undesirable" in some way. My mother, our apartment, her car, my clothes, were huge embarrassments to me growing up, and I learned nothing but bad habits and ideas about money, people, and women from her. As a result it took me until my late 20's/early 30's to become semi-confident around women. I really hit my stride in my late 30's/early 40's and I did it solely by lying. I pretended to have money, I lied about my family, I exaggerated everything about my existence, I often lied about my age, and I even lied about my name (I would make up a new name in hopes of starting a new existence as a different "character"). I had so much success in doing this that I just kept at it until I retired from the game about 8 years ago. I just couldn't get laid when I told women the truth of my existence because I had low SMV (both internally and externally), but when I lied the panties just dropped.

Of course, this can only last so long before the lies get exposed, but by then you got what you came for and you can just ghost them when they start calling you out. It usually all starts falling apart about the one month mark, but I've kept it going for as long as a year. You're just trying to get your "drugs" (sex) and will do anything to get them, including living a lie.

Don't hate the player, hate The Game.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Much of what you said is familiar to my background.

Do you think assuming a persona allowed you to be confident? Confidence is very attractive.

 

[eradicator]

The problem is women’s egos are far too big. She could pick a far more average guy and he would take her out on dates and actually be nice to her. But of course in her mind being ignored by Chad is better than dating a 5/10 average man who she considers as not human.

It gets a bit easier for men, harder for women in old age. I am talking about the age 60s,70s, and if they’re still sexually active, 80s. Men die earlier than women which means a man in his 80s will have a much easier time running a harem. Most of his competition is dead.

My parents are getting older. I’ve noticed how much nicer women are in their 70s and 80s to all the men in their life and I’m convinced this is the reason. There is a shortage of men and the women are lonely at that age. .

For the 37 year old female trying to ride the carousel until it falls apart, the ride only gets more challenging as the older she gets

 

[Servant of Christ]

Don't hate the player, hate The Game.

Just curious, because I can't quite decide from reading your post.

On one hand you say you lied, and don't really sugar coat it, and are honest about your past behavior. You made an analogy about getting your drug fix. This seems to imply you recognize it was wrong, and maybe you even regret doing some or all of those things.

On the other hand, you almost seem to be bragging about how you were able to successfully lie to and manipulate women for sex, and your final comment leaves me wondering if you repent or even regret this behavior at all. It's almost like you are saying it wasn't your fault for doing evil things, because "the game".

Of course it is not my place to judge anyone, and I have done my share of stupid and evil things, but it just made me wonder.

 

[Northern Pilgrim]

On the other hand, you almost seem to be bragging about how you were able to successfully lie to and manipulate women for sex, and your final comment leaves me wondering if you repent or even regret this behavior at all. It's almost like you are saying it wasn't your fault for doing evil things, because "the game".

Obviously not my place to answer for Purp but the way I read it was more of a diagnosis of how secular women operate in the current society. If you try to be a 'nice guy' and are honest, well good luck... If however you are a ****boi and just make up something that sounds good, women will fall all over you. Keeping up the lie is the obvious problem so of course nothing deep or long term comes from it.
Not hating the player to include these obviously messed up and severely damaged women. They are simultaneously the perpetrators AND the victims. Schrödinger's victims if you will...

 

[PurpleUrkel]

... On one hand you say you lied, and don't really sugar coat it, and are honest about your past behavior. You made an analogy about getting your drug fix. This seems to imply you recognize it was wrong, and maybe you even regret doing some or all of those things.

Biggest regret of my life... all of it.

On the other hand, you almost seem to be bragging about how you were able to successfully lie to and manipulate women for sex, and your final comment leaves me wondering if you repent or even regret this behavior at all. It's almost like you are saying it wasn't your fault for doing evil things, because "the game".

No, my life has been destroyed by living this way, all my fault, I was just trying to give some insight into the possible psychology behind men who are pumping and dumping multiple women in rotation and why (because many modern women aren't attracted to The Truth).

This was in reference to the below clip which we were discussing. This woman can't seem to figure out why this guy won't take her out on a proper date after she has spent a month at his house getting banged out:



"Don't hate the player, hate the game," was not meant to be cavalier or braggadocios on my part, it was meant as a message to women with unrealistic expectations and standards who are only willing to "settle" for the top 1% of Chads.

 

[Blade Runner]

I assume the "who wants to tell her" has to do with the guy possibly already having a girlfriend and now testing this other woman out, a male version of monkey branching?

It's more along the lines that she's old and unrealistic, not humble, in other words totally uncalibrated. We've lived in this artificial world for so long all these normies actually believe what other people tell them - such as women over 30 aren't in big trouble. And that's led to massive goal post moving to 35, even clown world 40. Then they scratch their heads, when they can just flatly look at their own fertility and know it's BEEN over for years.

He considered her as an option for casual sex, so long as he has to put zero effort into the meet ups. That’s her reality.

Indeed, you did a good job with the pithy explanation. One thing the girls at this age are extraordinarily bad at is allowing bad, easy behavior and guys who just lie to bang old women (I don't know why guys think that's fun, but it's real), which leads to ...

All plausible, but my first reaction was that this guy never had any real interest in her outside of sex and told her a bunch of lies just so he could pump and dump her.

Yes. The dating market got so bad the 40-48 crowd would just bang randos from "apps" and then act all surprised they didn't stick around. It's beyond an extension of feminism, it's this age match nonsense thinking they are similar to 40-something guys, when in reality those guys (even mid ones) are closer to high value and they are completely washed up makeup, sarcasm addicts.

but couldn't resist her own sex addiction urges

I think they want validation more than anything. The degree to which women get off on emotional states I'm convinced is not mechanical and visual, which is basically what a guy is set on, and then guys project that on women.

I am talking about the age 60s,70s, and if they’re still sexually active, 80s.

On the other hand, you almost seem to be bragging about how you were able to successfully lie to and manipulate women for sex, and your final comment leaves me wondering if you repent or even regret this behavior at all. It's almost like you are saying it wasn't your fault for doing evil things, because "the game".

He's pretty honest and straight forward about it, with that back story you can see why that might turn out that way. Kudos to him for repenting and being forthcoming about the whole "game" and its foolishness. The weird thing is that regret and states of nonaction have a price later in life too, one you can't predict and might even change your trajectory in an unseen way.

This was in reference to the below clip which we were discussing. This woman can't seem to figure out why this guy won't take her out on a proper date after she has spent a month at his house getting banged out:

The irony is tremendous. The degree to which women treat "nice" or decent men with utter disregard and then get treated like this and have zero awareness, is one for the human-animal ages.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

Sorry, I don't know how to grab a clip from this hour+ podcast, but this also gives me a chance to promote these guys a little bit too who are Christians and also pretty funny. Just a good vibe pod. If there's any surfers on here you might enjoy this.

Anyhow, related to this thread, Sterling Spencer (his dad was 1970's Gulf Coast surf legend Yancy Spencer), a 40 year-old pro surfer that runs this podcast "Pinch My Salt" with his cousin Ryan out of Pensacola Florida tells a story of how he saved 8 Gen Z girls from drowning this week and they didn't even thank him. He literally saved their lives by risking his own and once he got them to the beach and the drama was over they just walked away as if nothing had happened.

It's pretty funny the way Sterling tells it. He tells the story in the first 5 minutes of this episode so no need to wade through the whole thing.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Sorry, I don't know how to grab a clip from this hour+ podcast, but this also gives me a chance to promote these guys a little bit too who are Christians and also pretty funny. Just a good vibe pod. If there's any surfers on here you might enjoy this.

Anyhow, related to this thread, Sterling Spencer (his dad was 1970's Gulf Coast surf legend Yancy Spencer), a 40 year-old pro surfer that runs this podcast "Pinch My Salt" with his cousin Ryan out of Pensacola Florida tells a story of how he saved 8 Gen Z girls from drowning this week and they didn't even thank him. He literally saved their lives by risking his own and once he got them to the beach and the drama was over they just walked away as if nothing had happened.

It's pretty funny the way Sterling tells it. He tells the story in the first 5 minutes of this episode so no need to wade through the whole thing.

Good story. About the girls not thanking him, it's possible they did not know how much danger they were in. Also, it sounds like they were in a girls group social dynamic where you don't get 1:1 individual interaction with them unless you break the ice and give one of them the correct channel to respond, otherwise one of them would have to initiate the contact, and that's kind of against the rules of boy-girl, where the boy initiates and the girl chooses if and how to reply.

Would have been interesting if he had said whether the big man who almost drowned him had thanked him.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

Would have been interesting if he had said whether the big man who almost drowned him had thanked him.

Probably not. In the comments section lifeguards chime in saying it happens all the time because people are embarrassed. One lifeguard even said they also get sued sometimes for "saving" people. I also had a surfer buddy of mine have this happen to him in Hawaii. He rescued a big dude who almost took him down. It took him 30 minutes to get the guy in, and when he did the guy didn't thank him.

However, Sterling did expand on his encounter a bit by saying that he felt that they "expected it" (white knighting and to be saved), and that when he was still working to bring them in they started nonchalantly chatting about non-related things to the lifesaving as if they were just chilling on a "Greyhound bus"

If it was one or two Gen Z girls he saved and they didn't say "thank you," that would be understandable, but the fact that there were 8 of them all oblivious to the danger and the plight of their rescuer, and not one doubled back to thank him or remind the rest of the girls to thank him just demonstrates a complete lack of modern women's awareness of the power of men and their dependence on that power (both physical and in the realm of problem solving).

 

[Servant of Christ]

Biggest regret of my life... all of it.

No, my life has been destroyed by living this way, all my fault, I was just trying to give some insight into the possible psychology behind men who are pumping and dumping multiple women in rotation and why (because many modern women aren't attracted to The Truth).

This was in reference to the below clip which we were discussing. This woman can't seem to figure out why this guy won't take her out on a proper date after she has spent a month at his house getting banged out:

"Don't hate the player, hate the game," was not meant to be cavalier or braggadocios on my part, it was meant as a message to women with unrealistic expectations and standards who are only willing to "settle" for the top 1% of Chads.

Thanks for explaining. I didn't mean to call you out or anything. Like I said, I wasn't sure what you meant and it piqued my curiosity. I am glad you have moved on from that stuff. Good for you, brother. God bless you.

 

[Australia Sucks]

Probably not. In the comments section lifeguards chime in saying it happens all the time because people are embarrassed. One lifeguard even said they also get sued sometimes for "saving" people. I also had a surfer buddy of mine have this happen to him in Hawaii. He rescued a big dude who almost took him down. It took him 30 minutes to get the guy in, and when he did the guy didn't thank him.

However, Sterling did expand on his encounter a bit by saying that he felt that they "expected it" (white knighting and to be saved), and that when he was still working to bring them in they started nonchalantly chatting about non-related things to the lifesaving as if they were just chilling on a "Greyhound bus"

If it was one or two Gen Z girls he saved and they didn't say "thank you," that would be understandable, but the fact that there were 8 of them all oblivious to the danger and the plight of their rescuer, and not one doubled back to thank him or remind the rest of the girls to thank him just demonstrates a complete lack of modern women's awareness of the power of men and their dependence on that power (both physical and in the realm of problem solving).

Yeah the story doesn’t surprise me. The complete and total arrogance of modern women. They take everything for granted. I wonder how much of it is social conditioning of the modern era and how much is just innate selfishness that women tend to have naturally.