Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

Cooper said:
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This is fake news from a likely foreign controlled social media slopaccount. Reality: the Pentagon is drafting a 50 billion USD bill to bolster US presence in the region and restock ammunition arsenals for the coming years. This bill is designed to cement and expand DC's ability to project power in the region.

Ejecting the US from the Middle East (and Europe+ Indo-Pacific) has been a long standing goal in the grand strategy of a myriad of hostile foreign states - most notably Russia, China and Iran. Ergo why there is a non-stop deluge of thirdy propaganda aimed at working US public opinion, on how the US must retreat, muh money muh Israel, go back America, go back to your own pond let us take over, etc (last part never gets mentioned). The plan is not going so well. Not only is DC persevering, it has in the last 3 years upended the scale, come out on top and is currently defanging it's main regional competitor.

None of this is about Israel, that's simply a proxy. It's about breaking down the US Empire instead. This bottom line is why the Iranians are non stop targeting the forward US bases in a futile attempt to eject DC from the Gulf, and this is why Beijing and Moscow's propaganda sludge takes aim at the US chuddy right, attempting to cultivate this resentful isolationism. Per comparison: in Israeli info-spheres their ops are negligible, wait until the multipolarbros find out Israel is supposed to be a pole and the Changs and Russians are keen on flipping them. As the situation worsens for the Iranians expect the slop to become more in your face and outlandish.
 
magoo said:
Ice Age Farmer:

Everyone's focused on oil — but it's not just oil:- The United Arab Emirates (UAE) imports 80-90% of its food- Saudi Arabia, 80%- Kuwait, 95%With the Strait closed (or even "open" but with rates exploding 650%), the literal lifeline of these nations is cut off. And yes, with UAE/Saudi Arabia/Qatar stopping oil production, we are quickly entering an energy crisis that will have DRASTIC effects on food availability and pricing.Be prepared...

Those countries have zero military. They are useless. What they have is money due to Gas and Oil. And they will put pressure on Trump if things escalate.

Qatar I think had something similar not long ago. There was a blockade made by Trump to shake them for cash. And Saudi Arabia closed the border with Qatar.
What they say arabs from that region can´t accept is a shortage of milk. From all the food missing which could cause a riot. Milk is the one which always needs to be available in supermarket shelves. During that blockade Qataris wanted to buy cows. And take them to Qatar on airplanes. There supposedly they had to put the cows in warehouses with air conditionings for the cows to survive the heat. Might sound unbelievable but it´s true. I actually checked some cows to send there. And learned some things about cows. Anyway they managed to survive the blockade. Qatar has a really nice area called The Pearl. And a shopping mall made out of the finest materials available. A level of luxury not seen in many places.

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The heat in GCC is unbearable in the summer. Dubai has the biggest shopping mall cause during summer you cant walk on the streets.

The logic behind who wins this war is flawed. One american life is worth 100 iranians. That´s the real question here. How many casualties can america sustain without caving to the public opinion pressure? When the videos of boxes with flags on top of it start leaking the perspective will change drastically. 1 american death would be too many. BTW 6 US soldiers dead is utter bullshit. CORONA ORANGE CRAP STYLE. Theres much more casualties. How long can the US army sustain casualties for Israel before some revolt start happening within ranks?

Mussolini was dragged in the streets of Rome. Cause he didnt realize Italy was losing WWII and he needed to cut a deal with Allies. Rome started to get bombed. Game over for Benito. It´s inside US that the tension will happen. Both Hegseth and Rubio seem completely dumbfounded on why this war is being fought over. Hegseth seemed to have gained some balance. But they know in their core this is all orange mongo shit. And Rubio/Vance can kiss the presidency ticket goodbye. Cause a mixed bathroom Obama 2.0 will follow Trump presidency. People are tired of wars. And crazy shit.

The other problem is if this escalates to some kind of intervention from Russia or China. China would send NK first. If any of those two get involved. Allies might win. But at what cost?

Anyway a lot of moving pieces. Israel should have fought this war alone. That´s their shit. Not US or EU business. But jews. Helas. Napoleon has good quotes on them.
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You're right about the political tensions in the US, to a certain degree, but the milk is a non-issue, they can get powdered milk through Oman and land transport from the north.

I am not sure either about the US domestic political scene, the Dems will comply with Israel. Just like in the UK or France they have a stranglehold over the political system, economy and media.

This being said, if Newsom is elected two years from now, the Israelis won't have the same level of control over the WH. Newsom is a sleazy salesman but he is not into stuff that gets people on the Epstein list, he grew up rich and has normal sexual predilections. 2 years though is an eternity.
 
Aldebaran said:
And by "US interests" you mean "Israeli interests".
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Maintaining that NATO is for 'Israeli interests' is testimony that the echochamber is spiraling, buddy can't handle his sponsored worldviews and takes are going head under after some scrutiny, cortisol is spiking and the man just lost the ability to actually make an argument.

Imma bounce that ball back. Explain, in your infinite wisdom, how NATO is a construct that was created for 'Israeli interests'.
 
The Saudi Prince Sultan AB was targeted by Iranian ballistics. This military base is handled by the Saudis after being handed back by the US in 2003, and is located in Central Saudi Arabia. Tehran is pushing Riyaad into a decision it actually doest not want to take.

Expecting this to be labeled a false flag immediately bytheway



 
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LaAguilaNegra said:
None of this is about Israel, that's simply a proxy. It's about breaking down the US Empire instead. This bottom line is why the Iranians are non stop targeting the forward US bases in a futile attempt to eject DC from the Gulf, and this is why Beijing and Moscow's propaganda sludge takes aim at the US chuddy right, attempting to cultivate this resentful isolationism. Per comparison: in Israeli info-spheres their ops are negligible, wait until the multipolarbros find out Israel is supposed to be a pole and the Changs and Russians are keen on flipping them. As the situation worsens for the Iranians expect the slop to become more in your face and outlandish.
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This statement in bold above is a complete joke. The idea that Israel isn't getting tens of billions more out of this is something that only a complete outsider would even entertain.

You're clearly not familiar with N. America, probably not even W. Europe. Israeli infospheres are negligible? How about the entire MSM, and 90% of online media, including armies of astroturfed influencers accounts.

Also your opinions are highly contradictory, here above you say that the Russians are trying to eject the US from the middle east, and in your other spiels you claim that Putin is a zionist tool - well which one is it??
 
Read_Lives_of_Saints said:
What experience does the Saudi military have?

Isn't this a country who outsources all their difficult jobs to foreigners?

They're not known for martial prowess and recently failed against the Houthis.

I'm sure the USA has been telling them since 1990 and Gulf War 1 that we'll do their fighting for them.

Since I'm a Gulf of Oman geopolitical expert this week, I can confidently say that the chances are zero.
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Sure they might not have experience but they have lots of equipment, they in the top 5 biggest militaries we cant brush that away
 
TruckDriver9 said:
Both countries have ports outside the Strait of Hormuz.
Saudi Arabia on the Red Sea coast, and the UAE on the Gulf of Oman (click to enlarge).
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The Saudi port of Yanbu and the Emirati port of Fujairah, both have large, modern grain terminals (as well as other vital infrastructure) purpose-built for this exact scenario.
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But seems like there is also trouble on that red sea coast, Yemen has some Shia Muslism on that side which support the Shias in Iran and they apparently want to block anything that might go through to Israel and US allies, I dont know what other countries on that side might do but if this continues for too long I have a feeling their neighbors are gonna start attacking Iran too.
 
Cooper said:
This statement in bold above is a complete joke. The idea that Israel isn't getting tens of billions more out of this is something that only a complete outsider would even entertain.

You're clearly not familiar with N. America, probably not even W. Europe. Israeli infospheres are negligible? How about the entire MSM, and 90% of online media, including armies of astroturfed influencers accounts.

Also your opinions are highly contradictory, here above you say that the Russians are trying to eject the US from the middle east, and in your other spiels you claim that Putin is a zionist tool - well which one is it??
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Your constant attempted misrepresentation of messaging and posting of both posters and social media takes alike is duly noted, and should be addressed. Glad you didn't bring up previously plugged content that the US is about to donate 50 billion USD to Israel again, expand a bit on your latest attempt to inject ragebait slop into discourse.

Multipolarity as designed by hostile foreigners and is indeed a Jewish construct that goes straight back to the likes of Morgenthau and Kissinger hence why China and Russia were built up as artificial enemies with especially the latter manufactured to eventually become the global hegemon and replace the US. Israel's role in that has been well documented, it's the main backdoor in terms of everything and has been the number one reason as to why the US lead in everything has eroded so fast.

It's a tad disappointing that all the noticers seemingly can't wrap their heads around the miles deep Semitic footprint into both Russia and China, yet have no qualms with pushing the dumbest of the dumbest sloptakes regarding the US. That's how you know it's all fake, and that's how you cultivate a low-brow resentful audience. In addition: if an alt media star of choice cannot articulate how the current regimes in Russia and China are, unlike the US, literally created by Jews and in cahoots with Israel to suck the US dry than they are probably full of shit and on a payroll. This is also why their propaganda efforts in the Israeli info-sphere are so minimal - it's because Israel isn't the target, the US is.

The US, which was meant to fall, isn't going anywhere. Time to internalize that fact, the plan has failed.
 
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GoodShepherd said:
But seems like there is also trouble on that red sea coast, Yemen has some Shia Muslism on that side which support the Shias in Iran and they apparently want to block anything that might go through to Israel and US allies, I dont know what other countries on that side might do but if this continues for too long I have a feeling their neighbors are gonna start attacking Iran too.
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The Red Sea theater is quiet. Houthis made some threats, but haven't taken any actions, not even against Israel, so far.
 
LaAguilaNegra said:
Your constant attempted misrepresentation of messaging and posting of both posters and social media takes alike is duly noted, and should be addressed. Glad you didn't bring up previously plugged content that the US is about to donate 50 billion USD to Israel again, expand a bit on your latest attempt to inject ragebait slop into discourse.

Multipolarity as designed by hostile foreigners and is indeed a Jewish construct that goes straight back to the likes of Morgenthau and Kissinger hence why China and Russia were built up as artificial enemies with especially the latter manufactured to eventually become the global hegemon and replace the US. Israel's role in that has been well documented, it's the main backdoor in terms of everything and has been the number one reason as to why the US lead in everything has eroded so fast.

It's a tad disappointing that all the noticers seemingly can't wrap their heads around the miles deep Semitic footprint into both Russia and China, yet have no qualms with pushing the dumbest of the dumbest sloptakes regarding the US. That's how you know it's all fake, and that's how you cultivate a low-brow resentful audience. In addition: if an alt media star of choice cannot articulate how the current regimes in Russia and China are, unlike the US, literally created by Jews and in cahoots with Israel to suck the US dry than they are probably full of shit and on a payroll. This is also why their propaganda efforts in the Israeli info-sphere are so minimal - it's because Israel isn't the target, the US is.

The US, which was meant to fall, isn't going anywhere. Time to internalize that fact, the plan has failed.
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The last remnants of bankster political power over China were purged in the early 2010s. They're still present in HK, notably the Sassoons, and have minority stakes in industrial conglomerates like CITIC but they're boxed in and surveilled. They did indeed build up a golem in China, but the cultural barriers and Chinese insularity eventually prevailed. This is a people that is very nationalistic with a ruling elite with deep cultural roots. You have had no real exposure to China, so your views are likely derived from grainy pictures of Mao with Rittenberg, Rosenfeld and Israel Epstein, and 15 year old pics of Chinese officials kissing the wall.

Russia is a different case, they are somewhere around where the US or say France were in the 50s or 60s, while Jewish presence was important, it wasn't anywhere near where it is today. Both JFK and Nixon fought them and ultimately lost. Putin is roughly where Nixon was, he is a Russian nationalist but also a very pragmatic, risk averse lawyer-bureaucrat.

The US still had some leeway under Bush Sr with WASPs like George Schulz who were still capable of putting Israel in its place, that fell by the wayside once the neocons took over under Dubya and engineered a second coup on America with the 9/11 false flag (the first coup was the JFK assassination, or if you want to go further back, the creation of the Fed). At the same time Jewish financiers like Kravis, Singer, Milken etc took over Wall Street and old money was gradually sidelined.

American industry has been gutted not so much by a grand geopolitical design, but by sheer greed, and also borderline hatred (and fear) for middle America. So American and European industry were stripped and squeezed out and labor outsourced to the Chinese golem.

This is a great capsule of that process, with the case study of Cabela's:


People like Singer, Ellison, Adelson have been running foreign policy for decades now, and their loyalty doesn't lie with the US. That is why the US has been fighting Iran on behalf of Israel, and on Israel's terms.

It's pretty naive to think, as you did above, that Israel isn't going to get tens of billions more on top of the tens of billions they've already got out of this operation.
 
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GoodShepherd said:
Not saying they have a great army but they have spent a lot of money on equipment, Im sure they gonna use it eventually they bought it for a reason
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When Trump rails about Spain not committing to spend 5% of its GDP on the military, he is not really concerned with Spanish security, the expectation is that the majority of that will go towards the US MIC. It's just protection money and the fee for pax Americana.

For the Gulf countries, it's even more extreme because their military doesn't have real armies or foot soldiers, The ruling families fear being overthrown by the military. KSA has been spending fortunes on their military since the 1970s, as a way to give back the oil revenue surpluses gathered from around the world to their main protector, the US.

These countries' future is undecided. At some point, the plan, along the outlines of the Oded Yinon Plan devised by Israel in 1982, will be to break up and balkanize Saudi Arabia, or at the very least destroy it much like they did to Syria, in order to eventually colonize it and build their Greater Israel plan. But first they have to take care of Iran.
 
Ember said:
A drone carrier ship that Centcom claimed to have hit is allegedly on the move, 10km from the port of Bandar Abbas.

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Iranian drone carrier ship managed to survive two more days after initial statement but is now on fire. IRGCN+ Artesh Navy should abandon all vessels barring small mounted speedboats and focus on consolidating a deterrent by usage of missile and drone forces in both striking Gulf targets (nobody in Tehran aims at Israel anymore) and imposing a naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.

That's a big boom bytheway

 
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Cooper said:
These countries' future is undecided. At some point, the plan, along the outlines of the Oded Yinon Plan devised by Israel in 1982, will be to break up and balkanize Saudi Arabia, or at the very least destroy it much like they did to Syria, in order to eventually colonize it and build their Greater Israel plan. But first they have to take care of Iran.
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Seriously contemplating making another list of CooperBloopers, this time focusing on bizarro predictions and fraudulent analysis throughout the years.

The one below is a proper appetizer. Two months ago you mistakenly concluded that US bases in Syria were there to aid the Greater Israel project through facilitating the Kurdish proxy and ultimately manufacture the build up of a land axis from Israel to the Iranian border through the Gideon Corridor. This was in spite of repeated attempts by yours truly to explain to you that the US bases in Syria weren't there for that purpose, but instead existed to facilitate the downfall of Assad and handle the immediate aftermath, and that much of Syria would be delegated to Ankara - which is on collision course with Tel Aviv.

Literally 3 weeks after your totally off-the-mark prediction DC indeed greenlit Erdogan+ Al Sharaa's operation, as forecasted, to curbstomp Israel's proxy (SDF). This was then followed by the DoS announcement that the US would withdraw from all DC's forward positions in Syria, also forecasted, leaving Israeli influence beyond Syria's three Southern provinces at basically nill. The reason for Washington's withdrawal: the need had disappeared.

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US begins withdrawing from its largest military base in Syria

Pullout comes after Syrian military takes control of northeast region from Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).
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GoodShepherd said:
Not saying they have a great army but they have spent a lot of money on equipment, Im sure they gonna use it eventually they bought it for a reason
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There is a risk involved to violent engagement and I'm not familiar of examples of Saudi taking such risks in the past 60 years, but it's def. not my area.

While it is normal for vultures to attack a corpse, that is a very low risk engagement.

Think back to Gulf War 1 & 2. How much risk did Saudi take with Iraq? They allowed the USA to build a hyuge base to do their fighting for them.

I'm familiar with them putting down some Bahrainis around 2014 and the recent stuff with the Houthis and they are not impressive.

If they can pay or induce the Americans to do their fighting for them, that's what they're likely to do.
 
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