Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread
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The last remnants of bankster political power over China were purged in the early 2010s. They're still present in HK, notably the Sassoons, and have minority stakes in industrial conglomerates like CITIC but they're boxed in and surveilled. They did indeed build up a golem in China, but the cultural barriers and Chinese insularity eventually prevailed. This is a people that is very nationalistic with a ruling elite with deep cultural roots. You have had no real exposure to China, so your views are likely derived from grainy pictures of Mao with Rittenberg, Rosenfeld and Israel Epstein, and 15 year old pics of Chinese officials kissing the wall.
Russia is a different case, they are somewhere around where the US or say France were in the 50s or 60s, while Jewish presence was important, it wasn't anywhere near where it is today. Both JFK and Nixon fought them and ultimately lost. Putin is roughly where Nixon was, he is a Russian nationalist but also a very pragmatic, risk averse lawyer-bureaucrat.
The US still had some leeway under Bush Sr with WASPs like George Schulz who were still capable of putting Israel in its place, that fell by the wayside once the neocons took over under Dubya and engineered a second coup on America with the 9/11 false flag (the first coup was the JFK assassination, or if you want to go further back, the creation of the Fed). At the same time Jewish financiers like Kravis, Singer, Milken etc took over Wall Street and old money was gradually sidelined.
American industry has been gutted not so much by a grand geopolitical design, but by sheer greed, and also borderline hatred (and fear) for middle America. So American and European industry were stripped and squeezed out and labor outsourced to the Chinese golem.
This is a great capsule of that process, with the case study of Cabela's:
People like Singer, Ellison, Adelson have been running foreign policy for decades now, and their loyalty doesn't lie with the US. That is why the US has been fighting Iran on behalf of Israel, and on Israel's terms.
It's pretty naive to think, as you did above, that Israel isn't going to get tens of billions more on top of the tens of billions they've already got out of this operation.
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When Trump rails about Spain not committing to spend 5% of its GDP on the military, he is not really concerned with Spanish security, the expectation is that the majority of that will go towards the US MIC. It's just protection money and the fee for pax Americana.
For the Gulf countries, it's even more extreme because their military doesn't have real armies or foot soldiers, The ruling families fear being overthrown by the military. KSA has been spending fortunes on their military since the 1970s, as a way to give back the oil revenue surpluses gathered from around the world to their main protector, the US.
These countries' future is undecided. At some point, the plan, along the outlines of the Oded Yinon Plan devised by Israel in 1982, will be to break up and balkanize Saudi Arabia, or at the very least destroy it much like they did to Syria, in order to eventually colonize it and build their Greater Israel plan. But first they have to take care of Iran.
Iranian drone carrier ship managed to survive two more days after initial statement but is now on fire. IRGCN+ Artesh Navy should abandon all vessels barring small mounted speedboats and focus on consolidating a deterrent by usage of missile and drone forces in both striking Gulf targets (nobody in Tehran aims at Israel anymore) and imposing a naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.
That's a big boom bytheway
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Seriously contemplating making another list of CooperBloopers, this time focusing on bizarro predictions and fraudulent analysis throughout the years.
The one below is a proper appetizer. Two months ago you mistakenly concluded that US bases in Syria were there to aid the Greater Israel project through facilitating the Kurdish proxy and ultimately manufacture the build up of a land axis from Israel to the Iranian border through the Gideon Corridor. This was in spite of repeated attempts by yours truly to explain to you that the US bases in Syria weren't there for that purpose, but instead existed to facilitate the downfall of Assad and handle the immediate aftermath, and that much of Syria would be delegated to Ankara - which is on collision course with Tel Aviv.
Literally 3 weeks after your totally off-the-mark prediction DC indeed greenlit Erdogan+ Al Sharaa's operation, as forecasted, to curbstomp Israel's proxy (SDF). This was then followed by the DoS announcement that the US would withdraw from all DC's forward positions in Syria, also forecasted, leaving Israeli influence beyond Syria's three Southern provinces at basically nill. The reason for Washington's withdrawal: the need had disappeared.
US begins withdrawing from its largest military base in Syria
Pullout comes after Syrian military takes control of northeast region from Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).
There is a risk involved to violent engagement and I'm not familiar of examples of Saudi taking such risks in the past 60 years, but it's def. not my area.
While it is normal for vultures to attack a corpse, that is a very low risk engagement.
Think back to Gulf War 1 & 2. How much risk did Saudi take with Iraq? They allowed the USA to build a hyuge base to do their fighting for them.
I'm familiar with them putting down some Bahrainis around 2014 and the recent stuff with the Houthis and they are not impressive.
If they can pay or induce the Americans to do their fighting for them, that's what they're likely to do.