The Movie Thread

[magoo]

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Against my better judgment, I tried to watch Noah (2014) because I like the cast, Russell Crowe, Jennifer Connelly, Ray Winstone and Emma Thompson, and I thought there might be something interesting to see in the Hollywood version of this story, but I was soon disappointed.



The first half was barely watchable and I wanted to see where they'd go with this thing, but through the entire movie they never said God, only "the creator". May as well have said The Great Architect, lol.

They made the film's messaging into an anti-human, carbon savior story where Noah was fighting for the beasts and glorious snail darters, but Tubal-cain, descendant of Cain, who was played by Sexy Beast (2000) star Ray Winstone, was a horrible, wicked, selfish brute interested only in the continuance of the race of man, so if you don't want to off yourself in order for the polar bears to have better igloos, then you're evil just like Cain.

Apparently they pulled some plot devices out of the Book of Enoch, so there were hideous stone giant demons, The Watchers, who ended up building the ark at Noah's direction and were then forgiven by "the creator" and sucked back up to heaven. I stopped watching soon after that.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

Against my better judgment, I tried to watch Noah (2014) because I like the cast, Russell Crowe, Jennifer Connelly, Ray Winstone and Emma Thompson, and I thought there might be something interesting to see in the Hollywood version of this story, but I was soon disappointed.

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The first half was barely watchable and I wanted to see where they'd go with this thing, but through the entire movie they never said God, only "the creator". May as well have said The Great Architect, lol.

They made the film's messaging into an anti-human, carbon savior story where Noah was fighting for the beasts and glorious snail darters, but Tubal-cain, descendant of Cain, who was played by Sexy Beast (2000) star Ray Winstone, was a horrible, wicked, selfish brute interested only in the continuance of the race of man, so if you don't want to off yourself in order for the polar bears to have better igloos, then you're evil just like Cain.

Apparently they pulled some plot devices out of the Book of Enoch, so there were hideous stone giant demons, The Watchers, who ended up building the ark at Noah's direction and were then forgiven by "the creator" and sucked back up to heaven. I stopped watching soon after that.

I wouldn't be surprised if they made it this bad intentionally in order to dissuade people away from the Bible. The plot is so bad it's a parody of the real story. The demons are the good guys and God is the bad guy for sending the flood.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

I wouldn't be surprised if they made it this bad intentionally in order to dissuade people away from the Bible. The plot is so bad it's a parody of the real story. The demons are the good guys and God is the bad guy for sending the flood.

And Noah wants to literally annihilate all of mankind, including his own family, whom he promised to murder in great detail during one scene.

He rattled off the order he wanted each family member to bury the other as some kind of inversion of those Bible passages where they list the genealogies.

 

[Blade Runner]

It is considered an expanded narrative of the Blade Runner setting. The "Tannheuser Gate" was referenced in this movie, it was a some kind of portal that Rutger Hauer's character mentions at the end of Blade Runner before he "expires". Most science fiction pre-woke was tolerable, and some like this that wasn't spawned by jews was even entertaining. It essentially came from the mind of Philip K Dick, who was 100% Hibernian. He almost bought into communism early on, but ultimately became anti-authoritarian in general. He had some involvement in Christian mysticism but I don't know if he was ever active in the Church. Most of his stories reflect a different futurist worldview than the jewish weltanschauung's of Asimov, Kafka, and Davidson. Heinlein, who is of German descent, also has some profound writings that are entirely relevant outside of a science-fiction context as well.

If you look at the early sci-fi films of the 1930s, you see a mix of escapism from the great depression coupled with esoteric revelations by insiders like H.G. Wells, a known freemason. Even some freemasons had tolerable content because they knew what buttons to press in people's minds to get them onto a concept, and ultimately, away from another.

I searched the forum and found this thread, wondering if anyone had mentioned Philip K Dick, who was quite an interesting person and writer. Of course, the point of departure was my avatar. I also recalled that he had an experience after taking sodium thiopental/pentothal (truth serum) which apparently was prescribed as a pain medication for a tooth removal. The woman who delivered him the drug was wearing an ichthys necklace and within a short time he had an "experience", which you can read more about in the Exegesis of Philip Dick:

In that instant, as I stared at the gleaming fish sign and heard her words, I suddenly experienced what I later learned is called anamnesis—a Greek word meaning, literally, "loss of forgetfulness." I remembered who I was and where I was. In an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, it all came back to me. And not only could I remember it but I could see it. The girl was a secret Christian and so was I. We lived in fear of detection by the Romans. We had to communicate with cryptic signs. She had just told me all this, and it was true.

For a short time, as hard as this is to believe or explain, I saw fading into view the black, prisonlike contours of hateful Rome. But, of much more importance, I remembered Jesus, who had just recently been with us, and had gone temporarily away, and would very soon return. My emotion was one of joy. We were secretly preparing to welcome Him back. It would not be long. And the Romans did not know. They thought He was dead, forever dead. That was our great secret, our joyous knowledge. Despite all appearances, Christ was going to return, and our delight and anticipation were boundless

Interestingly enough, a Greek man posted this about the word, which is a word that is actually in the Septuagint, and it was used as a reference for ritual sacrifice (the memory component of someone is in modern cultures and in ancient ones) and is of course the word used in the line "Do this in remembrance of me". Also of interest is that some of these words, and this is a case of it, were ancient greek philosophical terms, with particular meanings in the philosophic system (Plato in this case, "recollection"). The jews who translated the scriptures, justlike the christians who used these terms, eventually used them in a context that was in a sense, christianized, since of course they were not Platonists. It was almost forced in that sense, since the Hellenic influence somewhat forced the hand of the Old/New Testament writers, at least in (translations to) Greek.

So, last night I started reading the Divine Invasion. I think it may be the first time I'm reading it in English, so I guess it was easy to miss Dick's mistake the first times around, reading it in Greek.

In the book's opening, Dick defines Anamnesis as the "loss of amnesia". This is actually wrong. Dick seems to think that anamnesis is formed by the negative "an" and "amnesia", hence the "lifting of amnesia".

However, the word is formed from "ana", meaning again, and "mnimi", memory. Therefore, to remember again.

Really a minor tidbit, but I thought I'd share

Yes, that's why those who studied Plato labeled it "recollection", but it is interesting how "lack of forgetting" conveys something slightly different, but at the same time can coincide with the meaning.

In any case, I of course love Blade Runner and found going through the wiki there is much I forgot about it "Did you know?" was cool, and parts of Blade Runner 2049 were explained that I probably didn't pick up the first time or second I saw that "sequel".

 

[bubs]

Been watching scary movies recently as it’s Halloween season.
- Oddity was a good creepy flick worth checking out.
- Him was complete garbage, don’t waste your time with that one.
- The Damned was a well made 1800’s period-piece movie set in Iceland that I highly recommend. Was a slow burn and creepy, but well made, solid acting and scenery shots and filming was done well.
- Bring Her Back - Very disturbing, great tension between the characters and well made. Worth checking out.