The Destruction of Modern Women

[FrancisK]

Yes pretty much you have that right. But the other point you are missing here is that even leaving aside the question of women I just don’t like western society in general and feel I would enjoy living in a non western country much better. Just the culture, society, history, food, cost of living, etc of non western countries is more to my taste.

Ironic as leaving everything and everyone behind to go do whatever it is you want is an extremely western thing to do.


So you're pushing 40 leaving the country that gave your immigrant parents a better life and the country which is your home to move away to a country which you have no connection to whatsoever, no connection to the people or culture and this is assumingly an old world very conservative region. You've abandoned your family, nobody knows you, you don't blend in, you don't share their faith in fact you have no faith whatsoever which is even worse, you don't have a job as you plan to be retired and you've lived much of your adult life trying to be a PUA. You can take your pick as to which one of those is a more MASSIVE red flag among conservative cultures and last but certainly not least lets not forget that you're there to specifically try and take one of their "young and beautiful virgin woman" as your "girlfriend" so you'll be conducted yourself in this country day to day accordingly in hopes of reaching this goal and what that entails of.

I think maybe you should have a good long realistic think about this, don't even listen to me about it go ask your parents how this would work out for someone if they did this in their homeland.

 

[Australia Sucks]

I think maybe you should have a good long realistic think about this,

I will try it and report back to the forum with the results in a few years.
Whatever happens it will probably still be better than what I am dealing with living in the Anglosphere.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

You've abandoned your family, nobody knows you, you don't blend in, you don't share their faith in fact you have no faith whatsoever which is even worse, you don't have a job as you plan to be retired and you've lived much of your adult life trying to be a PUA.

AS has faith but his faith is in the wrong things. The things he has faith in won't bring him joy, peace, or fulfillment. They haven't thus far and they wouldn't even if he were to get them, which is very unlikely.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

Ironic as leaving everything and everyone behind to go do whatever it is you want is an extremely western thing to do.


So you're pushing 40 leaving the country that gave your immigrant parents a better life and the country which is your home to move away to a country which you have no connection to whatsoever, no connection to the people or culture and this is assumingly an old world very conservative region. You've abandoned your family, nobody knows you, you don't blend in, you don't share their faith in fact you have no faith whatsoever which is even worse, you don't have a job as you plan to be retired and you've lived much of your adult life trying to be a PUA. You can take your pick as to which one of those is a more MASSIVE red flag among conservative cultures and last but certainly not least lets not forget that you're there to specifically try and take one of their "young and beautiful virgin woman" as your "girlfriend" so you'll be conducted yourself in this country day to day accordingly in hopes of reaching this goal and what that entails of.

I think maybe you should have a good long realistic think about this, don't even listen to me about it go ask your parents how this would work out for someone if they did this in their homeland.

Why do you feel comfortable being discriminatory of blacks but at the the same time feel comfortable with criticizing @Australia Sucks claiming some men are losers and he wants to take women from them?

Your ideas are inconsistent. @Blade Runner

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

AS has faith but his faith is in the wrong things. The things he has faith in won't bring him joy, peace, or fulfillment. They haven't thus far and they wouldn't even if he were to get them, which is very unlikely.

Do you believe a man who is not a virgin who seeks a virgin wife is committing a sin? To be clear, this would mean if he takes a non virgin on a date on and she mentions HAD A PENIS INSIDE HER ITS AN AUTMOTIC NO.

 

[Vas Incrementum]

So much of what is wrong with modern woman is here and the cop exemplies the antidote.

 

[FrancisK]

I will try it and report back to the forum with the results in a few years.
Whatever happens it will probably still be better than what I am dealing with living in the Anglosphere.

I hope you understand at least that my point isn't even so much about feasibility....

 

[Vas Incrementum]

Arrrggh, predictive text is absolute garbage. There's no such word as exemplies, so why suggest it? Exemplifies.

 

[Thomas More]

Do you believe a man who is not a virgin who seeks a virgin wife is committing a sin? To be clear, this would mean if he takes a non virgin on a date on and she mentions HAD A PENIS INSIDE HER ITS AN AUTMOTIC NO.

If a girl has had a penis in her, it's alright to just use her as a whore, but you can't marry her? However, it's Ok for men to fornicate?

This is a Christian forum and these ideas are not Christian. It is wrong for everybody to fornicate and everybody is harmed by doing so. Unfortunately many men and women have committed this sin, including me.

We should not be seeking to fornicate at all. Sex is only allowed in marriage, regardless if the girl has already lost her virginity. To claim you are seeking a virgin wife but being open to having a "girlfriend" if you find out she's not a virgin is sinful. Seeking a virgin wife means remaining fully chaste until the wedding night. Anything else is fornication and sin.

It is preferable to marry a virgin, but it is certainly an option to marry a non virgin. You have to be discerning about what kind of Christian she is, but there's nothing that says a Christian man can't marry a non virgin. The only rule is that if you can't find a virgin and won't marry a non-virgin, you should remain chaste for life.

If you don't want to be chaste for life, and you can't find a virgin to marry, then either marry a non-virgin, or commit the serious sin of fornication. That is the full range of possible choices.

 

[Blade Runner]

Your ideas are inconsistent. @Blade Runner

I didn't mention it then, but I'm a big picture and historical context guy. The tradition and inclination that men and all people, frankly, had forever, are totally antithetical to modern ideas about women and marriage. That's why the thread continues to be fairly astonishing to me.

Our ancestors came over to "the new world" - whatever that means - not that long ago, along these lines. None of these things apply to most people anymore, as I'm pretty sure from what I've read AS parents are immigrants to another country, which means by definition they came to a "homeland" where there people were not present (in large part). It's a non point. Globalism, if you all haven't read my posts or figured it out, changed the game and the mentality of women to a tremendous degree, basically necessitating men going to other countries to get women capable of having families, or even getting laid (dare I say). Sad, but true.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

If a girl has had a penis in her, it's alright to just use her as a whore, but you can't marry her? However, it's Ok for men to fornicate?

No. That’s wrong.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

Ironic as leaving everything and everyone behind to go do whatever it is you want is an extremely western thing to do.


So you're pushing 40 leaving the country that gave your immigrant parents a better life and the country which is your home to move away to a country which you have no connection to whatsoever, no connection to the people or culture and this is assumingly an old world very conservative region. You've abandoned your family, nobody knows you, you don't blend in, you don't share their faith in fact you have no faith whatsoever which is even worse, you don't have a job as you plan to be retired and you've lived much of your adult life trying to be a PUA. You can take your pick as to which one of those is a more MASSIVE red flag among conservative cultures and last but certainly not least lets not forget that you're there to specifically try and take one of their "young and beautiful virgin woman" as your "girlfriend" so you'll be conducted yourself in this country day to day accordingly in hopes of reaching this goal and what that entails of.

I think maybe you should have a good long realistic think about this, don't even listen to me about it go ask your parents how this would work out for someone if they did this in their homeland.

You're making a strong particular point, but the western world is compelling AS towards being a passport bro. You bring up a wonderful point that people are going to ask themselves why you came, especially in a homogenous and/or impoverished society. You also bring up a great point about being a cultural parasite. Going somewhere for the sake of extracting one thing; a virgin.

The point that AS is making is that what he's already doing in Australia he can do better elsewhere.

The point that Blade Runner is making is that when it comes to the west the well is poisoned. There are swaths of land that are 3rd world tier. There are so many white people complaining about being a foreigner in their own country. It's just impossible to dismiss. Many whites have been robbed of a home and are already "expats" in their own county. Obviously, he can relocate within Australia but AS mostly likely wants to plant his roots as nature intended and has an aversion to being withing the same jurisdiction that caused him so much resentment. AS is a flower that never got to blossom.

It seems the problem isn't that AS wants to be a passport bro but the way he's characterizing his goals is off putting. If you want a head scratcher then ponder that the intentional erosion of Australian identity has caused AS to be become an internationalist. The problem became the solution. I've heard it mentioned here and elsewhere, but it's fascinating how that works. Passport bros spreading "the west". Sometimes you almost hate your own reflection when it comes to this topic.

 

[FrancisK]

You're making a strong particular point, but the western world is compelling AS towards being a passport bro. You bring up a wonderful point that people are going to ask themselves why you came, especially in a homogenous and/or impoverished society. You also bring up a great point about being a cultural parasite. Going somewhere for the sake of extracting one thing; a virgin.

The point that AS is making is that what he's already doing in Australia he can do better elsewhere.

The point that Blade Runner is making is that when it comes to the west the well is poisoned. There are swaths of land that are 3rd world tier. There are so many white people complaining about being a foreigner in their own country. It's just impossible to dismiss. Many whites have been robbed of a home and are already "expats" in their own county. Obviously, he can relocate within Australia but AS mostly likely wants to plant his roots as nature intended and has an aversion to being withing the same jurisdiction that caused him so much resentment. AS is a flower that never got to blossom.

It seems the problem isn't that AS wants to be a passport bro but the way he's characterizing his goals is off putting. If you want a head scratcher then ponder that the intentional erosion of Australian identity has caused AS to be become an internationalist. The problem became the solution. I've heard it mentioned here and elsewhere, but it's fascinating how that works. Passport bros spreading "the west". Sometimes you almost hate your own reflection when it comes to this topic.

Brother I don't have an issue with any of that, you feel like you would live a better life somewhere else then so be it. For myself personally I couldn't and wouldn't leave my family but for someone else that may not be as large of a consideration, that doesn't mean it's wrong either way. I also don't feel as negatively about the feasibility of finding a good woman or making a good life in the west but my view is skewed because of my culture, I recognize that.

The issue comes when you throw in the caveat that you're there as a grown man who is a total outsider looking to find yourself a virgin child "girlfriend". That's where it turns into something else, that is not going to work out as planned and it's not even a concept of feasibility as in you'll come home empty handed.....if you do what it takes to seek that out they're going to hang you from what's left of your genitals after they're done castrating you. There is no scenario where that actually works out, none.

 

[Blade Runner]

The point that Blade Runner is making is that when it comes to the west the well is poisoned. There are swaths of land that are 3rd world tier. There are so many white people complaining about being a foreigner in their own country. It's just impossible to dismiss. Many whites have been robbed of a home and are already "expats" in their own county. Obviously, he can relocate within Australia but AS mostly likely wants to plant his roots as nature intended and has an aversion to being withing the same jurisdiction that caused him so much resentment. AS is a flower that never got to blossom.

Again, this should be obvious to any given person. I am amazed how frequently we have to restate these things for this forum, for which this should also be back of the hand knowledge. If we can't have this understanding instantly at a forum like, why are we even here anymore?

If you want a head scratcher then ponder that the intentional erosion of Australian identity has caused AS to be become an internationalist.

This is why Sandalwood is one of my favorite posters. This month, he's certainly tops around here.

The problem became the solution.

I've said this in another way, indeed. The convenience, efficiency, slave labor, transportation, technology, etc of the modern world made (more possible) by globalism ruined everything (generally speaking, at least with women) for the modern man in the west. What do you have to use, therefore, as your counter? Exactly what they did, the geo arbitrage. They poisoned the well, and now you have to arb what arb'd you.

 

[Douglas Quaid]

Being with a younger women can make a lot of sense, but it depends on your age, finances and how well you take care of yourself.

A guy from church that is 25 is with a girl that is probably 19. Another guy around 33 is with a 27 year old. She has not been sleeping around either.

I personally get along best with early to mid 20s women. Half you age + 7 is actually a pretty good idea. My finances aren't where they need be yet for a lot of the women over 25 anyway, which is probably a blessing in the long-run. Or they're too committed to a career, which is not appealing at all.

But a girl just out of high school is probably best for early to mid 20s men. Or a guy her age.

 

[Wutang]

I think a 33 age guy with a 27 age girl is very doable even in the west and even among the secular liberal set.

 

[Cooper]

Why would a 33yo man even be looking at women over 30?

 

[Douglas Quaid]

Why would a 33yo man even be looking at women over 30?

Yes exactly. I'm about to turn 35 and don't want them.

A lot of guys are brainwashed though.

 

[Blade Runner]

I think a 33 age guy with a 27 age girl is very doable even in the west and even among the secular liberal set.

Things may have changed post covid, but this has been the case in the recent past. The problem is that the 34-36 year old guy is treated like he's a washed up woman, and as is the case in an inverted society, it's probably when he's at top overall value.

I'd actually argue the way normies and others go, just by what I've seen in the modern west, if you don't strike by 32, they write you off. It's stupid, but generally what I have seen. A part of it is social as well, as most good, young or traditional women are gone or you won't be in the situations to meet them and make an ongoing appearance. Even church is like this for most, it's Sundays and Lent - not tons of exposure to really know the person, I would argue.

 

[Douglas Quaid]

The main thing is to stop caring what other people think, especially any women our age trying to shame us. Or some simp that's envious. If a younger woman like you, they will not care that you're older. And if she's from a truly conservative Christian family, they won't care either. But building a reputation can also take time, and people have to know you're sincere as well.