The Destruction of Modern Women

I never believed in Freud, but this thread has vindicated his Madonna/Whore complex theory for me. Not just this thread, but I've seen many men fall victim to it. Either you see woman as pure, chaste, madonnas. Or you see them as licentious whores. You see the nurturing quality and sexual quality of women as two wholly separate things and never the twain shall meet. This mindset does not reflect reality. The truth is more like a spectrum than a rigid dichotomy.
Yes, we just need to find a woman on the right end of the spectrum. Imagine you find a good looking 25-year-old interested in you with a sweet personality who's had one or two boyfriends, but is now taking her faith seriously. If she is of good character and you like her, you'd be foolish to not at least consider her in the hopes of a pure 18 year old virgin coming along.

Remember that God is all-powerful and loving and can put a woman in our lives if it is right for us. But then it is up to us to take action. Will we accept her? Will we be of the right disposition? Or will idealism and pride overtake us?
 
I think we agree, in reality, you just draw the conclusions that you want from the thread.
We don't agree. The arguments that you make in this thread are not consistent with the conclusion I just made. Your arguments seek to reinforce the binary view you have of women, whether consciously or subconsciously. My conclusion is that it would be in your benefit to not have such a binary view. Perhaps it is time to stop looking outward and start looking inward.
 
The whole virgin girlfriend thing is like the female princess fantasy of getting her prince.


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This is just what you’re going to have to live with, or be single. With the former you bear the burden of having an intolerable woman around so you can work on creating a better life for your progeny, so hopefully future generations don’t have to endure this (though I suspect this has always been the case, to some extent). With the latter you work on your soul and die alone. I wish I had better news for you gentlemen. C’est la vie.

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I believe this is true. Marrying a woman who accepts her Biblical role, holding frame, staying fit, and play your role as the paterfamilias can help to manage the situation, but the complaining wife situation in that picture will be your cross to bear at least sometimes.
 
So your life's plan and goal everything you are currently working towards is to leave the country you grew up in and all your friends, family, everyone and everything you know behind including of course your aging immigrant parents to move away to a foreign far away land for the sole purpose of finding a "virgin girlfriend"? Not even specifically to get married and start a family, just to have a girlfriend....?

Do I have that right?
Yes pretty much you have that right. But the other point you are missing here is that even leaving aside the question of women I just don’t like western society in general and feel I would enjoy living in a non western country much better. Just the culture, society, history, food, cost of living, etc of non western countries is more to my taste.
 
Your arguments seek to reinforce the binary view you have of women, whether consciously or subconsciously. My conclusion is that it would be in your benefit to not have such a binary view. Perhaps it is time to stop looking outward and start looking inward.
You're making a classic mistake that is common in lefty types (I'm not calling you that, I'm just pointing it out as a similarity): the idea and emotion behind pointing out exceptions in order to try to nullify the main point, or idea. We don't have enough time, or frankly, enough energy or patience to deal with that idea, since it is a feeble attempt to not address the main one. All educated and smart or wise people are aware of the fact that nothing fits ALL into a basket, so we make shortcuts thinking that smart people also understand this. Another way of doing this is to emphasize what is going on, and I think that bothers a lot of people on the internet. For example, if most women in the west act a certain way and it's closer to 99% of the time than even, let's say, 65% of the time, it's actually time for you to start addressing the issues and not objecting with your own lottery or unicorn examples, which effectively don't exist and certainly not on a population basis (which is the point of the forum as we are discussing things to be ready my multitudes of men). Is that so hard to understand? These are the basics.
Yes pretty much you have that right.
The context I think they are missing when AS and I address points is that we recognize how broken the west is and others still want to defend it. I don't know how you do that and still post at this site, given our history, the point of the forum, the rare points of view even that we have in this society still, etc.

I'm starting to recognize that for many here on this forum even, the degree of historical imbalance of the society in this modern day is really downplayed by them, just like the boomers downplay it, and women are oblivious to.
 

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I just don’t like western society...
And your malcontent doppelganger named "Belarus Sucks" in Belarus is saying "I just don't like eastern society," and is currently trying to sell a kidney for a one way ticket to Australia... but, no matter where you go, "there you are."

.... we recognize how broken the west is...
This is your opinion. "The West" is not broken, your perspective of it is. How is it that two people can be standing right next to each other and one is experiencing heaven, and the other is experiencing hell? It is due to their perspective, which at it's baseline root is a choice. You and AS choose to see Australia and America as "sucking" whereas others choose the opposite and are making a good life for themselves here. You both simply have "the grass is always greener on the other side," I Hate My Hometown Syndrome where some utopia lies anywhere but where you actually are. You are malcontents. And now you both are trying to redefine your posting history and explain to us the meaning of your words and how we are too stupid to understand them.

And you know, Magoo got something right about your writing. It can often be very difficult to read and understand because it is grammatically "weird" and quite obtuse. Maybe try to dumb it down a bit with the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid).
 
And you know, Magoo got something right about your writing. It can often be very difficult to read and understand because it is grammatically "weird" and quite obtuse. Maybe try to dumb it down a bit with the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid).
His writing comes across as unusual for a few reasons. The most noticeable way is him overusing commas to breaks up his sentences with commas which makes his writing not flow as well. Besides his overuse of commas he also has a tendency to use them in an almost random manner. Imagine talking to a guy who you are talking to who for every 4-5 words he says will pause for 2 seconds before continuing the rest of his sentence.

Two smaller things is how he uses a lot of filler words when he could get the same idea across in a more compact way with less words and how when he breaks up his sentences with his many commas into smaller phrases, he'll order these phrases in a less then ideal way to make the sentence read well.

The way I am writing now, as you can see, is an imitation of his style, which I am now presenting to you to illustrate, the two points that i mentioned, at the beginning of this paragraph, in order to show you what I meant when I was referring to his writing style.

Another way I could illustrate this is to take one of the sentences he's written recently and put them in a way that would make it flow better. Below is something he wrote on his last post on this thread

I'm starting to recognize that for many here on this forum even, the degree of historical imbalance of the society in this modern day is really downplayed by them, just like the boomers downplay it, and women are oblivious to.

Just merely removing the commas would make the sentence seem less stilted and make it more readable:

I'm starting to recognize that for many here on this forum even the degree of historical imbalance of the society in this modern day is really downplayed by them just like the boomers downplay it and women are oblivious to.

Beyond that, just a few tweeks such as changing "for many here on this forum even" to "even many people on this forum" which expresses the idea he is going for (referring to a lot of posters on this forum) in a more clear way.

I'm starting to recognize that even many people on this forum downplay the degree of historical imbalance of society in this modern day like the way boomers downplay it and women are oblivious to.

Editing "is really downplayed by them" to just "downplay" and moving it to the beginning of the sentence right before the subject so that it reads "even many people downplays - " rather than "many here on the forum + break in the sentence + "downplays" makes a big difference as well.
 
This is your opinion. "The West" is not broken, your perspective of it is.
Have you read the very long thread titled “the decline of functioning society” which outlines the process of third worldification of western societies.

Here is a very brief summary:
-A lot of manufacturing shifted to third world countries for stuff to be made cheaply meaning stuff just isn’t the same quality as before (e.g. throw your shoes away every 12 months because they are falling apart).

-The endless immigration into the west means more and more jobs are being filled with low IQ third world barbarians e.g. go to buy something from a shop and you will get served by an Indian or a Chinese person being paid peanuts who has zero concept of customer service.

-This is in addition to the general cuts in staffing levels which have become normalised across the board to the point where most businesses are deliberately understaffed to cut costs because consumers have gotten accustomed to shitty service. Just a few days ago I went to a fancy pastry shop to buy something and I was waiting 10 minutes to be served because it was busy but there was only one person working. This kind of thing has become normalised now.

-Crumbling and ageing infrastructure in the west. Potholes in roads are becoming increasingly common in the west and cities like Bangkok, Medellin and Santiago have faster and more modern trains than cities like Sydney, Melbourne, New York, or Chicago.

-Rising crime in the west due to less job opportunities and the flood of third world criminal immigrants. I have seen this first hand. Where I live in Sydney, Australia in a posh neighbourhood. 30 years ago pretty theft would have been almost unthinkable in a good neighbourhood and now while it’s not rampant it certainly does happen from time to time. I have had two bicycles stolen, my dad has had a pair of shoes stolen (was airing/drying out just outside the door of the house after the shoes getting rained on) and I have a friend who had his car broken into and his laptop stolen from inside the car. Let’s not even talk about the roaming tape gangs of Africans and Pakistanis in countries like England, Germany and France raping young women. I have met a number of British women living in Australia who have told me there huge swathes of London where they simply refuse to go to those areas at night to due to the risk of getting robbed or raped.

-The quality of care in public hospitals has declined

-The decline of freedom and free speech in the west. They recently passed laws in Australia that people peacefully protesting can get arrested by the government if they don’t have permission to protest. And Germany and England have been arresting people merely for making negative comments online about Jews or homosexuals. So much for freedom in the west. That is long gone now.

-The woke mind virus completely taking over the west e.g. fake sexual harassment claims, DEI discrimination when you apply for a job, etc

And I could go on and on and about the third worldification of the west.

We are well past the golden age of western civilisation.

Basically every advantage the west had over the third world other than higher wages is gradually being diminished to the point where you have to ask yourself if you have enough assets to live without working what do you really get out of being in a western country anymore? You pay the higher cost of living but you are getting increasingly third world quality so you may as well move to the third world where everything is at least cheaper and the women are better.

Don’t get me wrong the west is still more functional than the third world but the gap is narrowing every decade to the point where the west will become fairly similar to the third world within a few decades.
 
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This is your opinion. "The West" is not broken, your perspective of it is.
Says the guy who brings up the broken media and monetary system as "jew_" every third post. Your takes are schizophrenic, essentially, or at least contradictory very commonly. Please note that I do agree with you on certain points. Anyone can go look at the "piracy" thread to see that.
and the other is experiencing hell?
Far from it. Pointing out that the USA is in major decline (I'm American) is unrelated to any claim that I am "experiencing hell" - which I never said. You complain about a lot of stuff, by the way, to claim that you are "in heaven". lol
It can often be very difficult to read and understand because it is grammatically "weird" and quite obtuse. Maybe try to dumb it down a bit with the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid).
I didn't include Wutang's critique of my writing because to be honest, I don't deny it. Frequently I try to include quite a few ideas so I don't have to write a tome over and over, and indeed that includes (perhaps an excessive) use of commas. I have written about quite a few of my ideas over and over on the forum so I'm not worried about editing every post to be perfect. Content is more important to me. If I had a low verbal IQ, however, the language model's wouldn't have declared me among the most consistent and coherent posters on here, with high verbal IQ. Like that model, I just callz'em as I seez'em.

Don't hate me cuz ya ain't me
Don’t get me wrong the west is still more functional than the third world but the gap is narrowing every decade to the point where the west will become fairly similar to the third world within a few decades.
Again, for the third time in three days, the whole reason we are on this forum is because modernity is broken in multiple ways.

Are you guys retarded? Saying stupid stuff like the last several posts here is just testifying against yourselves. Why are you even here if there aren't real problems? It's laughable the inanity of this place sometimes.
 
And your malcontent doppelganger named "Belarus Sucks" in Belarus is saying "I just don't like eastern society," and is currently trying to sell a kidney for a one way ticket to Australia... but, no matter where you go, "there you are."


This is your opinion. "The West" is not broken, your perspective of it is. How is it that two people can be standing right next to each other and one is experiencing heaven, and the other is experiencing hell? It is due to their perspective, which at it's baseline root is a choice. You and AS choose to see Australia and America as "sucking" whereas others choose the opposite and are making a good life for themselves here. You both simply have "the grass is always greener on the other side," I Hate My Hometown Syndrome where some utopia lies anywhere but where you actually are. You are malcontents. And now you both are trying to redefine your posting history and explain to us the meaning of your words and how we are too stupid to understand them.

And you know, Magoo got something right about your writing. It can often be very difficult to read and understand because it is grammatically "weird" and quite obtuse. Maybe try to dumb it down a bit with the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid).
Not everyone wants to end up like you purpleurkel. Australia Sucks wants a wife.
 
His writing comes across as unusual for a few reasons. The most noticeable way is him overusing commas to breaks up his sentences with commas which makes his writing not flow as well. Besides his overuse of commas he also has a tendency to use them in an almost random manner. Imagine talking to a guy who you are talking to who for every 4-5 words he says will pause for 2 seconds before continuing the rest of his sentence.

Two smaller things is how he uses a lot of filler words when he could get the same idea across in a more compact way with less words and how when he breaks up his sentences with his many commas into smaller phrases, he'll order these phrases in a less then ideal way to make the sentence read well.

The way I am writing now, as you can see, is an imitation of his style, which I am now presenting to you to illustrate, the two points that i mentioned, at the beginning of this paragraph, in order to show you what I meant when I was referring to his writing style.

Another way I could illustrate this is to take one of the sentences he's written recently and put them in a way that would make it flow better. Below is something he wrote on his last post on this thread



Just merely removing the commas would make the sentence seem less stilted and make it more readable:



Beyond that, just a few tweeks such as changing "for many here on this forum even" to "even many people on this forum" which expresses the idea he is going for (referring to a lot of posters on this forum) in a more clear way.



Editing "is really downplayed by them" to just "downplay" and moving it to the beginning of the sentence right before the subject so that it reads "even many people downplays - " rather than "many here on the forum + break in the sentence + "downplays" makes a big difference as well.
Ha! I've never had any problem with Blade Runner's writing style, or even noticed anything about it other than the ideas he was conveying.

However, this is an example of one of the basic rules of clear writing. It's always best to write in the active voice, as opposed to the passive voice. It often requires fewer words, and is clearer, but also it makes the sentence more direct and makes the idea stronger.

Sometimes it's ok to take poetic license and break the rule for effect. However, I'm afraid I probably do this unintentionally in too many cases.

I know you're also supposed to use shorter sentences, and if you catch yourself writing a really long sentence, you should find a way to break it up, to make the ideas clearer, and to avoid having a convoluted series of phrases, where the verb and the object are separated by 15 words or more, but I often end up doing this anyway.

I blame modern women for my doing this.
 
What’s worse, removing ribs or doing “sex change” surgeries?
Oh, I believe they should be punished too.

I've also heard of people who think they should have been born blind, or missing a limb, or something like that, and they convince a doctor to actually blind them, or amputate a good limb.

I would set doctors like this on a pike, but I suppose that punishment has gone out of fashion.
 
Oh, I believe they should be punished too.

I've also heard of people who think they should have been born blind, or missing a limb, or something like that, and they convince a doctor to actually blind them, or amputate a good limb.

I would set doctors like this on a pike, but I suppose that punishment has gone out of fashion.
So which is worse? Or all are worthy of capital punishment?
 
So which is worse? Or all are worthy of capital punishment?
If I had to rank them, I would say tranny surgery on children is worst. I think capital punishment is justified here. Doing elective blinding and amputations or adult sex change operations comes next in severity, but I would only do jail for this, or for elective removal of ribs.

There are worse things than removing ribs for cosmetic reasons, but I wasn't really thinking of the rankings when I commented on the woman who had her ribs removed.

Edit: Just noticed I earlier said I'd put elective blinding doctors on a pike, but here I would only jail them. Now I don't know. I can see arguments for both approaches.
 
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