The Hot-Holy Matrix

[GoodShepherd]

The older I get in life the more I realize that looks and beauty are not the most important things in a wife, beauty is also in the eye of the beholder, when you are in love with a girl her looks dont actually play much of a part either, Im not saying beauty isnt worth anything or isnt important, its a bonus, sometimes it can even be a problem, if your wife is too beautiful you always got to be watching out for her and fighting off the whole world of guys who are also attracted to her beauty, my wife was one of those woman when we were younger I had to deal with these problems where I had to break ties with people and no longer welcome them around and had to be a little hard on them because they started developing feelings towards my wife because of her charm and beauty, with a more average looking woman you shouldnt have too much of this issue.

 

[RedLagoon]

The older I get in life the more I realize that looks and beauty are not the most important things in a wife, beauty is also in the eye of the beholder, when you are in love with a girl her looks dont actually play much of a part either, Im not saying beauty isnt worth anything or isnt important, its a bonus, sometimes it can even be a problem, if your wife is too beautiful you always got to be watching out for her and fighting off the whole world of guys who are also attracted to her beauty, my wife was one of those woman when we were younger I had to deal with these problems where I had to break ties with people and no longer welcome them around and had to be a little hard on them because they started developing feelings towards my wife because of her charm and beauty, with a more average looking woman you shouldnt have too much of this issue.

This.

Not only that, she got born with that beauty and they (pretty ladies) almost feel it's a burden to be beautiful as they seek no other.
So those men become jealous of you as a man and more often than not these men will cut you out of their lives...

Been there, doing it.

 

[Australia Sucks]

look up all the attractive teenage girls now, the vast majority of them look completely busted today

Yes. Especially in the west most women age like milk. Most women in the west that were hot at 18 like busted by 28 let alone 40.

many of the girls you didn't even bat an eye at look beautiful now compared to the others.

The proverbial ugly duckling transforming into a beautiful swan rarely happens in real life. That is like 1 out of 100.

A woman who has kept her looks into her 30's has a better chance of maintaining them long term

Looks are like an hour glass. The more sand has already poured down the less there is left to pour down. Do you still expect the 35 old woman that looks good to look still good when she is 60? That is highly unlikely.

 

[RedLagoon]

Yes. Especially in the west most women age like milk. Most women in the west that were hot at 18 like busted by 28 let alone 40.


The proverbial ugly duckling transforming into a beautiful swan rarely happens in real life. That is like 1 out of 100.


Looks are like an hour glass. The more sand has already poured down the less there is left to pour down. Do you still expect the 35 old woman that looks good to look still good when she is 60? That is highly unlikely.

What about you? Do you look in the mirror sometimes?

Maybe stay away from pr0n or whatever is polluting your mind.

 

[FrancisK]

Yes. Especially in the west most women age like milk. Most women in the west that were hot at 18 like busted by 28 let alone 40.


The proverbial ugly duckling transforming into a beautiful swan rarely happens in real life. That is like 1 out of 100.


Looks are like an hour glass. The more sand has already poured down the less there is left to pour down. Do you still expect the 35 old woman that looks good to look still good when she is 60? That is highly unlikely.

You're missing my point entirely. I'm not saying you take an ugly duckling and hope she turns into a swan I'm saying that looks can be fleeting no matter what. Everyone ages do you plan to find a new wife every 10 years or something? Again not advocating to marry an older woman but I would give the 30 year old who kept her looks a better chance of looking good at 60 than the chances of a random 20 year old that only looks good because she's still young.

 

[RedLagoon]

You're missing my point entirely. I'm not saying you take an ugly duckling and hope she turns into a swan I'm saying that looks can be fleeting no matter what. Everyone ages do you plan to find a new wife every 10 years or something? Again not advocating to marry an older woman but I would give the 30 year old who kept her looks a better chance of looking good at 60 than the chances of a random 20 year old that only looks good because she's still young.

Many men have told him this, look at the comment above you.

He wants virgins
He had no interest in following Christ
Calls the forum the only place out of Internet hell

Brother, he needs to figure it out all on his own.

 

[Tippy]

All this is just putting too much emphasis on sex in my opinion.

If you consider the only real purpose of sex is procreation do you really need the hottest wife? I'm not necessarily advocating an ugly wife either. Just if you're a 5, maybe a 5 is OK for you. What's a 5? Just an OK looking person. In the West you may have to settle for a 3/4 if you are a 5 and that's unfortunate but also not the end of the world if she has positives as a human being.

Also, so much of life does NOT involve sex at all and if a wife does well in those areas and is a decent/caring/moral person those things are more important than the boner test.

If you absolutely MUST date up looks wise then yeah there is Eastern Europe and Asia but you either have to live there or bring her here which is a long and arduous process and fraught with challenges as well.

And also I am too noticing this approach to women as if they are PAINTINGS 'Yes I want the untouched one from Eastern Europe!' as if you get that young/chaste wife and then it's just done. Game over. Credits roll. Whereas it's an ongoing dynamic situation with many issues to be faced. The thing is on here people are obsessed with ONE ISSUE (getting the wife) but I'm not sure they are prepping themselves that well for married life beyond that. Not that I know exactly how to do that either and I don't have advice but I think guys who have seemingly been single for months/years are not just going to plop into idyllic married life and cohabitation bliss. It's all a big fantasy.

 

[Australia Sucks]

You're missing my point entirely. I'm not saying you take an ugly duckling and hope she turns into a swan I'm saying that looks can be fleeting no matter what. Everyone ages do you plan to find a new wife every 10 years or something? Again not advocating to marry an older woman but I would give the 30 year old who kept her looks a better chance of looking good at 60 than the chances of a random 20 year old that only looks good because she's still young.

A lot of the thing about women ageing rapidly in the west is due to lifestyle factors (although genetics play a part also). So if you have money marry an 18 year old girl and you show strong leadership and stop her from working (thereby reducing her stress factor) make sure she eats really healthy, make sure she exercises regularly, she does not drink alcohol, she does not do drugs etc then she should still look decent into her 40s.

For example if you marry a woman who is 18 and she is a 8/10 and you show strong leadership and make sure she is living a healthy lifestyle there is no reason she can’t be a 6/10 at age 45 which is still pretty respectable. At that point you have enjoyed 27 years of her looking reasonably good so you can’t really complain because you got a fair deal out of it.

I’m not disputing that looks decline with age I am just saying that you need to get a decent ROI for everything you are dealing with (financially, responsibility for looking after the woman, dealing with female nonsense, etc) otherwise the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. 100 years ago this was just common sense and didn’t even need to be mentioned it was intuitively understood by everyone in society.

 

[RedLagoon]

A lot of the thing about women ageing rapidly in the west is due to lifestyle factors (although genetics play a part also). So if you have money marry an 18 year old girl and you show strong leadership and stop her from working (thereby reducing her stress factor) make sure she eats really healthy, make sure she exercises regularly, she does not drink alcohol, she does not do drugs etc then she should still look decent into her 40s.

For example if you marry a woman who is 18 and she is a 8/10 and you show strong leadership and make sure she is living a healthy lifestyle there is no reason she can’t be a 6/10 at age 45 which is still pretty respectable. At that point you have enjoyed 27 years of her looking reasonably good so you can’t really complain because you got a fair deal out of it.

I’m not disputing that looks decline with age I am just saying that you need to get a decent ROI for everything you are dealing with (financially, responsibility for looking after the woman, dealing with female nonsense, etc) otherwise the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. 100 years ago this was just common sense and didn’t even need to be mentioned it was intuitively understood by everyone in society.

Yes, you were the one.

Now let's move on

 

[GoodShepherd]

This.

Not only that, she got born with that beauty and they (pretty ladies) almost feel it's a burden to be beautiful as they seek no other.
So those men become jealous of you as a man and more often than not these men will cut you out of their lives...

Been there, doing it.

Yip I remember my wife complaining about this, how everywhere she would go without me, for walks, to grocery store etc theres alway people bothering her etc but she said when we both out together it never happens only when shes alone, there was a particular place my wife used to walk through regularly and 3 men were always harrassing her, eventually she told me and how much of a bother it is so I had to go there and threaten those men with violence if they even so much as looked her way, the problem was solved but these are the problems I encountered and situations I had to deal with quite often.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

you need to get a decent ROI for everything you are dealing with (financially, responsibility for looking after the woman, dealing with female nonsense, etc) otherwise the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. 100 years ago this was just common sense and didn’t even need to be mentioned it was intuitively understood by everyone in society.

No one is forcing you to get married, you can always go and pay prostitutes. It's still very possible to get young, decent looking prostitutes. So no need to intellectually hide behind some kind of "pressure to get married".

It's bizarre that you raise the topic in this mechanical ROI manner. What is your wife's ROI? Are you able to offer the 6-6-6 rule? Do these whores even care? Women try to bite off what they can chew. Your money means nothing to a woman if you got a death grip on it.

While obviously these kinds of mechanical pairings have occurred and still occur, why would someone even want to put themselves in such a position? You want to witness your somber wife experience joy every time you guys bump into some charming Joe?

At the end of the day it's not about ROI, it's about Return on Time.

Human beings become obsolete and worthless with age. The older you are the more worthless you become. This is where the return on time comes in. Did you spend your youth doing something of value that you can use a crutch to enjoy your limping years?

No money in the world can fix you being a 50/60 year old man telling your peers and young people alike that you never had a family. It's going to hurt saying it. It's go to hurt seeing their reaction. It's going to hurt seeing their family. It's going to hurt thinking about it.

Even if you marry old, your wife and kids will find ways to remind you of your fleeting value. They're going to be casket shopping while you're still alive.

I understand you wanting to prevent pain and suffering when dealing with these feminist sluts but you can't orient your life around pain avoidance. You don't need permission to be who you are. If you got tired of some woman then it's your choice to cheat on her, drop her off at the bus station, or go on a cigarette run to the store.

The issue with women is that a lot of nice guys, myself included, are more afraid of ourselves and our potential behavior than we are afraid of the potential behavior of these whores. At the end of the day, I'm sure you've been hurt a million times, so how does it make sense for you to still see pain as a big deal?