I am in receipt of a large document from MusicForThePiano contesting his ban. Obviously I disagree with the ban myself otherwise I wouldn't be posting it. It resembles the purges and attempted purges we see in politics, where there is a
persona non grata which TPTB want to get rid of and they try various excuses and lawfare to bring that about. In this case the method appears to be a plagiary accusation although a detailed proof of this plagiarism is absent. Whether there is proof or not, this is some kind of knee-jerk reaction with the plagiarism as an excuse but the lack of proof makes it even worse.
Also, the member has been purged from the forum to the extent that he cannot even send and receive PMs from other members as was possible on RVF. Nor can he access this lounge which supposedly exists so that banned members can contest their ban. Who knows if that is just poor implementation of the software or by design.
There is so much censorship in the world particularly of the political right apart from lawfare, also carried out in devious ways such as shadow bans, demonetising of channels. So much controlling and nudging of people's speech in the workplace, emails social media. So here we had one place with more freedom to discuss and debate without censorship and now is now also threatened.
People are not banging down the doors trying to become members here - on the contrary we have lost quite a few already : Cynllo,
@BrotherAugustine , Bird , DanielH ,
@BarrontheTigerCat ,
@GuitarVH , Rax Moscow . Traffic is not high. Members like to criticise Music's walls of text for their length but there are fewer and fewer people who write their own original discussions on the forum and more and more threads which are simply a posting of something from social media followed by a few short comments from everyone. Volumes have been written on those topics Music is addressing such as the WW2, so why should it be now half forbidden for him to write a page or two on the topic.
There is a quote from Albert Einstein :
Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
So much discussion here is around blacks including IQ differences between races so why now are members advocating to dumb things down.
The members listed above have either been banned or departed of their own accord. Although I have not come into much conflict myself with
@Samseau I am observing the trend and what might be causing it and don't really want to stay on board a slowly sinking ship. There is less and less vibrancy, and why is someone who creates such insightful posts now suddenly banned. The world is not in good shape at the moment, please take a moment to think who is part of the problem and who is part of the solution.
Why can't forum moderation be more like being an editor or curator? It's not right to be constantly bickering with everyone and simultaneously moderating them. If you're moderating take a step back from emotional reactions and try to work according to principles.
When I read his rebuttal which clearly argues that this was a Soviet style purge, which we are constantly living with these days from the left, I lose interest myself in the forum, contributing to it, interacting with it. There are just going to be less and less interesting people around.
So here it is in his own words, very well written :
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I hope all of you had a blessed Easter.
I have nothing against any of you, even with all the derogatory assumptive commentary about me, I still
would never do the same to another if any of you be in this position.
I sincerely hope that whomever posts this is not punished, for many were afraid to do so for that reason.
Whoever ends up doing this is simply advocating for another and is choosing to do so of their own free will,
not of any pressure or demand on my behalf.
In the spirit of Matthew 18:15 and 1 Peter 3:15 I write this official rebuttal for the series of recent and
escalating bans in sincere truth and humility and not out of pride, rebellion, or bitterness, but to appeal to
your conscience as brothers in Christ.
I seek only to clear my name of false accusations and return to a community I valued deeply for its
commitment to spiritual clarity and boldness.
Regarding the first ban on the allegations of "blasphemy" and "undermining the forum in bad faith", I
categorically and respectfully reject this.
Never once did I mock Christ, the Gospel, or our God. My comments while difficult and controversial were
centered on a historical and theological debate that many Christians, especially those concerned with
syncretism and modern Church decline, are actively engaged in. As a Catholic who sees firsthand the confusion
and fragmentation caused by forced racial and cultural universalism under the name of Christianity, I merely
expressed that these issues deserve honest discussion.
I pointed out that certain historical observations made by modern Christian Identitarians, particularly about
the racial transformations of the Church in colonized nations and their subsequent instability or schism, are not
easily dismissed. I was not asserting dogma but inviting rebuttal, offering the forum a chance to test truth as
iron sharpens iron.
Furthermore I explicitly asked others to continue the discussion in the appropriate "Kangz" thread to avoid
derailing other topics. When they refused it was I who attempted to de-escalate and redirect according to the
forum’s own rules about
staying on-topic and being respectful.
The forum rules call for humility in matters of empirical and historical interpretation. Rule 1 directly says:
"Be
humble. Always be willing to admit that anything which relies on empirical evidence... may be false or not as it
appears." I was engaging in precisely that kind of humility, suggesting we all examine these difficult ideas not
declare them true or false without question.
To ban me for blasphemy on that basis is a grave accusation, one that should be reserved for actual mockery of
Christ or irreverence toward God (Rule 3). I did neither. After the ban, I saw that I was interjected with a
misrepresentation accusing me of "cherry-picking" and omitting Acts 9:15 even though I explicitly stated that a
larger explanation (e.g. including Pauline epistles and Acts) would take an entire post or more. I wasn’t dodging
debate but focusing on Christ’s own words first in this instance, something both Catholic and Orthodox
traditions emphasize as having primacy before Paul.
Rule 2 commands:
"Give others the benefit of the doubt... Assume they are seeking the truth just like you are." I
ask that this be extended to me as well. This charge should be dismissed because it does not constitute
blasphemy.
Regarding the second ban, an extension in absentia, which was issued on the grounds of “plagiarism.” I wish
to clarify that this accusation is both procedurally unfounded and spiritually incongruent with the forum’s
stated rules and mission.
First, the rules contain no explicit prohibition against plagiarism, nor is it defined or handled in any official
sub-forum guidelines. Rule #5, which prohibits
“low-quality posting” and
“text speak”, is regularly breached
not by me, but by those offering terse, dismissive replies to me with no citations, no scripture, no theology just
ad hominem. My long posts often decried as “walls of text” are rich with citations, theological references, and
historical research. These are not low-effort posts, they are the opposite.
Second, let us define plagiarism clearly:
"The practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own."
I have not done this. This is an anonymous forum, not an academic journal or commercial platform. None of
our names are on anything we write. I do not claim authorship for profit, prestige, or deceit. In fact when I
share words derived from others, Scripture, Church Fathers, ancient translators, or even modern academics, I
am participating in the 2,000+ year tradition of Biblical commentary, where the Word is studied, interpreted,
and explained in a communal spirit.
In the Kangz thread my posts often reference many ancient Biblical scribes including Origen, Jerome, Aquila,
Symmachus and others to make the point that what I am doing is not lifting from others to glorify myself but
rejoining a historical and sacred conversation. If quoting or summarizing a public domain translation is
“plagiarism,” then every user who quotes Scripture is guilty of the same, and so are the Evangelists who cited
the prophets. The translations and various interpretations have no known original author unless we go back 20
centuries, if what I write is similar to what is on some other website, trust me I’ve seen it, that website has
copied it as well, and so did the previous one. Anything concerning Scripture is not able to be plagiarized. This
accusation therefore is both theologically incoherent and legally undefined by the forum’s own standards.
More troubling is the spirit of this ban which emerged not from public dialogue but from backroom
whispering: “a user came forward to Samseau.” This form of anonymous “snitching” is anathema to the ideal
of a spiritually healthy brotherhood. A monastic community, as the forum seeks to model, relies on fraternal
correction, transparency, and brotherly love, not secret denunciations without evidence. The post in question
was never cited. No actual proof was given. And suddenly, all of my prior content is labeled suspicious as if I’ve
contributed nothing genuinely. This is unjust. Proverbs 10:18.
The Apostle Paul himself was accused of undermining the Gospel. Christ was accused of blasphemy by legalists
who misunderstood the spirit of the Law. I make no such lofty comparison, but I ask this:
Is it not more “in
good faith” to deeply study and share our faith’s textual heritage than to police fellow believers with
whispers and assumptions? Of all the charges on my “rap sheet” this one is the most disingenuous and wrong
and I am asking for it to be removed.
Below is a table of the texts where all of these translations and interpretations are coming from, and these
predate any Bible, as they were used to formulate the Scriptures in one collection that we now know as the
Bible. Every single member here who either accuses me of plagiarism or simply parrots someone who accuses
me of plagiarism has never once mentioned any of these, which shows the utter bankruptcy of all these claims:
Concerning the third ban, another extension in absentia, issued on the basis of using a so-called “sock
account.”
Let me begin with an admission and apology: Yes, I did create an alternate account during this ban and I accept
responsibility. It was a one-time reactive decision, not a pattern of behavior, and certainly not made to “evade”
punishment or sow disruption, but allow me to explain why this occurred because context matters even in
discipline.
My 2-week ban (for “blasphemy”) was set to end on April 21st. A few days before
that expiration I noticed that
it had been
extended by four more weeks in absentia to May 15th. I had no idea why this was. It appeared
like ridicule to do this to someone, and given recent hostilities, I determined it to be strategic to send a
message to me to “go away”. Only later did I find my suspicions confirmed that it was based on a “new ban”
related to an accusation of “plagiarism” which I addressed above. Not only was this shady ban retroactive, it
was based on a post from a year ago, quietly “brought to light” by an anonymous user in private who has yet
to reveal himself. There was no citation on the post, no chance to defend it while I was still active, and zeroevidence provided. This ban materialized while I was unable to respond, creating an environment where I was
judged in absentia with no due process.
Frankly this resembles Soviet-style anonymous denunciation not Christian brotherhood. In such a setting
where bans can be compounded quietly while the accused is gagged, the temptation of the accused to
investigate what’s being said and done in the dark becomes understandable for one who has dedicated much
of their time to a community. Temptation to investigate, which the provocateurs must know they are inciting
and can dismiss passively if questioned. Again, my creation of the alt account was a
reactive measure not a
habitual one. It was not used to post, argue, or stir up trouble, simply to observe because I no longer trusted
the process as just.
Ecclesiastes 7:7.
I know full well the seriousness of breaking rules, but it also takes two to tango. When the moderation
employs irregular procedures issuing punishments based on
uncited accusations, retroactively applied while a
user is silenced, without a transparent questioning or trial, it places the accused in an impossible position.
This
compounds judgment without allowing rebuttal, which is not how biblical justice works.
“He that answereth a
matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.” — Proverbs 18:13
I’m not appealing this third strike by claiming innocence. I am appealing to the forum’s higher calling to be
more than just a club with punishments, but a
spiritual brotherhood where truth and fairness govern us all. I
acted in error in the third instance yes but my actions came in response to moderation decisions that did not
meet the forum’s stated standards of openness. Those of you who remain silent on this should assess your
own position here, and your own heart. Proverbs 29:26.
Let this appeal stand as both a confession and a petition: I am willing to return with repentance and full
transparency. I ask that this third ban also be reconsidered in light of the
cascading improprieties that
preceded it. There is a difference between rebellion and reaction. And there is a difference between gaming
the rules and trying to understand
why the rules stopped being applied justly. If this has happened to me, who
else has it happened to? Who else will it happen to next? Will it get worse, or will it get better?
Conclusion -
Many who once sought brotherhood here have been exiled or scattered, not for “blasphemy” or antagonism
but for challenging certain personalities or breaking unspoken taboos. This is not pruning. It is decay. The spiritthat once gave this community life, the spirit of bold, masculine inquiry under God, has withered under the
weight of silent purges and selective enforcements. The creator of this new forum Cynllo departed last
summer because of some very troubling issues in this department that few of you, if any, are aware of. If
enough of you wish to know what these are then they should be known openly from both sides, but that is not
for me to decide.
That does not exclude the large number of other senior RVF accounts who have also left from the constant
abusive gaslighting, or were permanently banned without warning, and maintain correspondence outside this
forum. Their talk is more than concerning, and the gradual but significantly reduced flow of traffic to this site
since its inception has only proven Cynllo correct. My goal was to help keep this community alive, to bring
more people here and discuss the truths that the devil doesn’t want us to, and several did join on account of
my “walls of nonsense” just to DM me personally seeking help or deeper understanding about these sensitive
topics that are smeared as ideological when they are in fact theological.
If any of you think my ravings are mad, then consider that the founder and creator of this forum wants nothing
to do with any of this place because of these very reasons and more.
When correction flows only one way, downward, and rebuke cannot rise upward without punishment, what
remains is a bureaucracy not a brotherhood, and Scripture speaks clearly on this:
“If the foundations be
destroyed, what can the righteous do?” (Psalm 11:3).
In all my time here the last 13 years, from 2012 as a regular commenter on ROK and an early RVF member in
the years before the conversion and iterations to the first Trump term and the craziness of the corona pysop to
the open brazen flexes of jewry, not one member has ever left this community on my account. Senior members
have already left in my absence from spiritual exhaustion and the pettiness of favoritism, how many more
must be lost before everything is kosher? All of you here need to ask yourself what is your purpose here and
what the purpose of this community is to you and what you believe it should be. Christ Is King is definitely not
supposed to be an irrelevant downwind repository of twitter/X posts gatekept with petty biases where genuine
content gets pushed out because it irritates peoples comfort.
Comfort is the worst of all sins. There is a reason why I rarely if ever post content from twitter/X, it is their
selected “revelation of the method” platform of choice designed to mislead even if little truths are shown.
Books contain much more value in many areas of research. True discernment in these days of deception
requires deeper analysis, diving to the abysmal depths of discomfort, lest the masquerade of hopium saturate
one’s awareness and actions. No Christian martyr ever rested on their laurels.
I only wish for the best for this community, which is not merely a forum but extends far beyond that. I wish to
stop it from fragmenting further, and to stop our brothers in Christ from seeking truth elsewhere. We may not
reach Cynllo’s original vision of a larger forum than RVF, but we can certainly halt this from decaying any
further, and perhaps even ameliorate what has isolated so many of the senior members and bring them back.
Of course, that would depend on all of us throwing aside egotism, which I have no issue with. Everyone else
who left was silent and never tried to reach out and confront these issues. The fact that I am doing so is
because I care. If this is the last you ever hear of me then you at least know that I tried.
God be with you all,
- Music
