US Border Crisis

I don’t think anyone could look at the images coming out of LA and say “you know what? Let’s keep these people in the US of A. Call off the deportations. These are good people. We need more of this.”



You underestimate how deranged libtards are. When they look at LA they don't see riots, they see poor, opressed minorities fighting against fascism.
 
You underestimate how deranged libtards are. When they look at LA they don't see riots, they see poor, opressed minorities fighting against fascism.
Agreed, but what I meant is what is happening in LA will only strengthen the resolve of the Silent Majority to kick the beaners out.

The more libtards bleat about poor oppressed minorities fighting against fascism, juxtapositioned with images of LA burning and low IQ scum waving foreign flags, the more Normies wake up to reality and come to our side.
 
Agreed, but what I meant is what is happening in LA will only strengthen the resolve of the Silent Majority to kick the beaners out.

The more libtards bleat about poor oppressed minorities fighting against fascism, juxtapositioned with images of LA burning and low IQ scum waving foreign flags, the more Normies wake up to reality and come to our side.

Yes, the optics couldn't be better for Trump.

These beaners don't have a martyrdom figure like Fentanyl Floyd to hide behind. These aren't poor oppressed blacks, these are invader Mexicans who are whining about having to go home to their own country.

Even many liberals aren't going to see what the big deal is. That the left is dying on this hill is hilarious, this is going to give Trump a carte blanche to deport millions.
 


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I debated whether to share my story on here, but I guess I will.

I think there's an idea out there that millions of violent criminals are pouring across the border, carrying machetes and drugs, looking to harm Americans. Certainly, while some people fall into that category, the vast majority of undocumented immigrants don't.

My family escaped Vietnam after the Tet Offensive and went through an arduous journey that eventually landed them in the Canada. My father worked there for a time as a janitor; my mother, a secretary. When work fell through, my dad was offered to work with his sister in the United States, so he went, as our family needed money. He ended up staying in the US longer than he was supposed to — not knowing immigration laws — and asked my mom to come be with him. Of course, she went and carried me over the border while I was still a baby.

I'm still unsure whether we technically broke an immigration law. The border between Canada and the United States was pretty porous (as it is today, for the most part). But either way, since I came here without legal documentation, I eventually fell into the category of being an undocumented immigrant. Yet, I've been in the United States since I was a baby. My identity and roots are very much based in this country, no different from anyone else.

The lack of legal immigration has totally shaped my life. It has made every interaction with the law much scarier. It has shaped which opportunities I could or could not get. It has taken an emotional toll, as this legal issue hangs over your head like a black cloud.

There are millions of people in my situation — people who were brought here as children, some babies, and were unable to raise their hand during this process and say "maybe we should hire a lawyer." Parents may have crossed the border not knowing about the law, as the law can be pretty confusing and lawyers are expensive. Perhaps, in the end, they should have hired a lawyer; but sometimes life is messy. In the end, they crossed for the same reason many people rise every day: to support their families.

I think it's unreasonable to deport millions of people who have contributed positively to society. It's simply not true that the majority of these people are violent criminals carrying drugs. Many own small businesses; many work as skilled laborers (including garment workers!). The vast majority are good, honest people. For those of us who grew up in the United States, sending us "back" to our "home" country would mean sending someone to a foreign land, as they grew up in the United States. Tearing families apart based on immigration status seems inhumane.

About twenty years ago, I watched with some small measure of hope that the Dream ACT would pass and help a portion of undocumented immigrants. I saw people march angrily in the streets (something I supported). But I was dismayed to see nothing really come about. In fact, when Obama passed DACA, I was skeptical that it would be sensible to give your information to the federal government without a guaranteed path to citizenship. It seems that the Trump administration may use those lists to hunt down immigrants.

I think the ICE sweeps are inhumane. I support and admire the protestors who are putting their bodies on the line for non-violent resistance. Ultimately, I think we need to solve this issue on a systemic level. It's unreasonable to me to expect that the government will deport some 10-20 million people. Even deporting 1 million will cause an insane amount of chaos, not to mention an incredible amount of wasteful government spending. The militarization of law enforcement is over the top and only escalate the situation.

I have seen people march on this issue, only for it to be dropped later and dissolve into quiet grumbles. In the end, nothing is done for immigrants. Time passes until decades later, we have another political crisis like the one we have today. This cycle seems unsustainable. I hope people sustain this energy to solve the immigration issue and put undocumented immigrants — most who are peaceful, skilled, and hard-working citizens — on a path to citizenship. As time continues to go by, many undocumented immigrants are seeing their lives wasted away.

If you care about this issue, I hope you get involved on the long haul: volunteer for pro-immigrant groups, donate to mutual aid, and perhaps pursue career paths that help people in this situation. I was moved to read someone on here say that, when they found their employee was undocumented, they helped them get a green card. The path was difficult, as our immigration system is broken (it took them 11 years). But I can tell you that this is like pulling someone drowning in raging waters.

Ultimately, I hope me sharing this story helps push back against the idea that all undocumented immigrants are MS-13 members. I know many people in my position and they are all like your neighbors.
 
Yes, the optics couldn't be better for Trump.

These beaners don't have a martyrdom figure like Fentanyl Floyd to hide behind. These aren't poor oppressed blacks, these are invader Mexicans who are whining about having to go home to their own country.

Even many liberals aren't going to see what the big deal is. That the left is dying on this hill is hilarious, this is going to give Trump a carte blanche to deport millions.
 
I don’t think anyone could look at the images coming out of LA and say “you know what? Let’s keep these people in the US of A. Call off the deportations. These are good people. We need more of this.”


Other Mestizos will, they see this as a racial conquest. The Blacks will support it as well. That is around 40% of the country who supports this, with even touching White libtards.
 
This theory only works with fair elections....

Will they be in 2026? 2024 was better, but I'm sure there are new tricks up their sleeve.
No, he is saying that after the elections and the "conservatives" take over, as in right now, nothing is done to stop this violence as things just get worse and the "conservative" politicians break all their promises.
 


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Update (1635ET): Approximately 500 marines - a full battalion - are being deployed to respond to the protests in Los Angeles, according to CNN, citing 'three people familiar with the matter' (so who knows).

Marines out of US Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center in Twentynine-Palms, California (where one of the ZH crew was stationed for "the worst 12 weeks of my life"), will join the National Guard troops that were activated by President Donald Trump over the weekend - in the face of strong pushback by Governor Gavin Newsom and LA Mayor Karen Bass.

It is unclear what the Marines will be tasked with once in LA - as they are prohibited from conducting law enforcement activity such as making arrests unless Trump invokes the Insurrection Act (after spending the last two days calling the protests 'insurrectionists.'



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Background:



I debated whether to share my story on here, but I guess I will.

I think there's an idea out there that millions of violent criminals are pouring across the border, carrying machetes and drugs, looking to harm Americans. Certainly, while some people fall into that category, the vast majority of undocumented immigrants don't.

They might not all want to physically assault Americans but deep down they do not want to coexist with any "blancitos" or "americanos". This is done through any "soft means" necessary by eventual strength in numbers and often aided by treacherous whites in positions where they stand to monetarily benefit from the presence of these people.

Example: landlords start charging rent out the ass that normal people cannot afford but these fuckers can because multiple working adults will live in an apartment, often 4-7 adults as an example. Let's say a landlord now charges $3000 for an apartment and has leased it to 4 hispanics. Each of those hispanics earns $400/week. 1 month = 4 weeks = $6400 total income. So after rent is paid they still have $3400 to utilize. I can guarantee you almost no adult hispanic male working is making that little per week so its often more thats staying per month after rent is paid.

2nd example: Business owners hiring these fucks for cheap slave labor who womt report them for shady practices over actual american citizens.

I will repeat again. They might get along with natives of the land but that is only a means to an end. Hispanics are very good at playing the long game. They will price or push out less fortunate whites out of an area until they start gaining political, financial, social, and residential influence. Then they start to go after the bigger fish.

Until the cultural consensus on immigration is changed it will be a nightmare trying to undo the mental and societal damage that the Obama and Biden administrations have done.

These newcomers have ZERO SHAME about gaming the system or biting the hand that feeds them while still pretending to be poor, humble people.
My family escaped Vietnam after the Tet Offensive and went through an arduous journey that eventually landed them in the Canada. My father worked there for a time as a janitor; my mother, a secretary. When work fell through, my dad was offered to work with his sister in the United States, so he went, as our family needed money. He ended up staying in the US longer than he was supposed to — not knowing immigration laws — and asked my mom to come be with him. Of course, she went and carried me over the border while I was still a baby.
Fair enough.
I'm still unsure whether we technically broke an immigration law. The border between Canada and the United States was pretty porous (as it is today, for the most part). But either way, since I came here without legal documentation, I eventually fell into the category of being an undocumented immigrant. Yet, I've been in the United States since I was a baby. My identity and roots are very much based in this country, no different from anyone else.
Thats the difference, legal or not, you assimilated. This isnt a chance to embrace the American way or freedom in a new land for them. Its just a parasite extracting resources while destroying the host.

It's an absolute disgrace these animals are being thrown to the front of the legalization lines over any illegal immigrants who have been here at least over two decades but either were falsely led to overfear deportation back then and never acted, didn't take any advantage of the system but also never had enough money to spare to start AND finish the process, or are being stonewalled by the most retarded hurdles and loopholes. These are the old time illegals that absolutely deserve anmesty. Of course there should be various limitations on each individual who is granted amnesty but a green card shouldnt be withheld from these few outliers. And after that close 90% of all avenues to obtaining legal immigration for a few years.
The lack of legal immigration has totally shaped my life. It has made every interaction with the law much scarier. It has shaped which opportunities I could or could not get. It has taken an emotional toll, as this legal issue hangs over your head like a black cloud.
Sorry to hear this.
There are millions of people in my situation — people who were brought here as children, some babies, and were unable to raise their hand during this process and say "maybe we should hire a lawyer."
Yes, while the process was somewhat "easier" 30 years ago, there was a lot of "instilling fear" from people already establish here. So i can understand the hesitancy.
Parents may have crossed the border not knowing about the law, as the law can be pretty confusing and lawyers are expensive. Perhaps, in the end, they should have hired a lawyer; but sometimes life is messy. In the end, they crossed for the same reason many people rise every day: to support their families.

This no longer applies after modern smartphones, easily accessible internet, amd readily available information. Much less to these migrant hispanics. There are MULTIPLE NGOs supporting them every step of the way. Back in their home countries, there are radio stations, tv segments, and social media channels that walk them through how to get here, what sob stories to tell, what to demand, and how to play the american system and exploit the sympathies of the suckers in charge here. They then share this information with each other. These are not your poor spics of 25-30 years ago. These are people coming with designer clothes, the latest smartphones, hair and nails done, no sign of any hardship during their travels, and worst of all they are coming to a foreign land with connections and being EXTREMELY well informed on how to get situated. All coming with actual demands before even reaching fucking Mexico. And ready to get loud and violent if their demands arent met at their pace.
I think it's unreasonable to deport millions of people who have contributed positively to society. It's simply not true that the majority of these people are violent criminals carrying drugs. Many own small businesses; many work as skilled laborers (including garment workers!). The vast majority are good, honest people. For those of us who grew up in the United States, sending us "back" to our "home" country would mean sending someone to a foreign land, as they grew up in the United States. Tearing families apart based on immigration status seems inhumane.

About twenty years ago, I watched with some small measure of hope that the Dream ACT would pass and help a portion of undocumented immigrants. I saw people march angrily in the streets (something I supported). But I was dismayed to see nothing really come about. In fact, when Obama passed DACA, I was skeptical that it would be sensible to give your information to the federal government without a guaranteed path to citizenship. It seems that the Trump administration may use those lists to hunt down immigrants.

I dont see the entire country of Vietnam coming here demanding to welfare, asylum, and to jump ahead of other illegal immigrants who are going through the immigration process the correct way. You are one of the few exceptions to the rule. However, these people coming now have no roots here. Nor will they ever feel any attachments.
I think the ICE sweeps are inhumane. I support and admire the protestors who are putting their bodies on the line for non-violent resistance. Ultimately, I think we need to solve this issue on a systemic level. It's unreasonable to me to expect that the government will deport some 10-20 million people. Even deporting 1 million will cause an insane amount of chaos, not to mention an incredible amount of wasteful government spending. The militarization of law enforcement is over the top and only escalate the situation.

I have seen people march on this issue, only for it to be dropped later and dissolve into quiet grumbles. In the end, nothing is done for immigrants. Time passes until decades later, we have another political crisis like the one we have today. This cycle seems unsustainable. I hope people sustain this energy to solve the immigration issue and put undocumented immigrants — most who are peaceful, skilled, and hard-working citizens — on a path to citizenship. As time continues to go by, many undocumented immigrants are seeing their lives wasted away.

If you care about this issue, I hope you get involved on the long haul: volunteer for pro-immigrant groups, donate to mutual aid, and perhaps pursue career paths that help people in this situation. I was moved to read someone on here say that, when they found their employee was undocumented, they helped them get a green card. The path was difficult, as our immigration system is broken (it took them 11 years). But I can tell you that this is like pulling someone drowning in raging waters.

Ultimately, I hope me sharing this story helps push back against the idea that all undocumented immigrants are MS-13 members. I know many people in my position and they are all like your neighbors.
Hispanics have soured american people and other immigrants on the immigration process, the double standards, the corruption, the overall favoritism towards certain groups, and just immigrants in general. With video recording now easily possible with any smartphone anywhere in the world it's also been very easy for people to share just how messed up these new era migrants and their culture and attitudes towards their host countries really can be. There's also now plenty of personal experience and collected data over time of how these people act. Repeatedly poor behavior really starts to wear down people's patience and understanding. Add to that the government that's supposed to serve its citizens is treating these people better than them while repeatedly giving these migrants resources and opportunities that have never been given to any citizen in total. Housing and luxury hotels, paid training and education, paid education on how to start businesses, paid utilities, paid meals, among other things. The only people that would seriously advocate for these types are those that are either the same as them or have never really had the unfortunate displeasure of having to live next to these people long term without being able to leave.

Do not belittle yourself by comparing yourself to these people. They genuinely do not feel any allyship with you even if they pretend to do so.

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