I wish I could give every positive reaction possible to this post. I'm tired of hearing about unrealistic solutions and actions that will never actually happen, this line of thinking is how you succeed and fix the problems.
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I wish I could give every positive reaction possible to this post. I'm tired of hearing about unrealistic solutions and actions that will never actually happen, this line of thinking is how you succeed and fix the problems.
Yawn. So your big plan is to take a thousand years to go and march back through all the institutions that the left already marched through and right over in the last century? Bet they’ll never see that coming.
You have an issue with perspective and urgency. You are the frog, and they are the pot, not the other way around. They’ve been boiling you for a while now and you’re just about cooked through. If you sit in there and wait you are not going to be able to boil the pot, the pot is going to boil you. To save yourself you need to jump out, but that means you’re going to have to take a leap. Then you can turn off the heat, and remove the pot from the griddle.
I would agree with everything you said if we were in the USA twenty to thirty years ago. But things have decayed a lot since then, and the problem is time. The problem is time because of demographics, with which we are all familiar.
Even if you sealed the border today, you’d still have tens of millions of Mexicans alone still here, not counting however many other flavors of foreigner, all reproducing at an exponentially faster rate than the native population. You’ll live to see yourself become a minority. Good luck with your institutions then.
I haven’t seen anyone propose some absurd teenage fantasy like declaring martial law and running around like Bane in that Batman movie. I like to exaggerate and kid but come on. I’m promoting things that are certainly possible but that people simply don’t have the stomach for, and therein lies the real problem.
In this here USA we have: methodically killed roving bands of violent savages and marched their progeny onto little reservations; built big concentration camps and forced whole races of people to live in them to protect the native population; protected borders with violence including going to war to assert and enforce territorial claims; liberally applied capital punishment for various crimes against person and property by both legal and extralegal means; forcibly removed Mexicans living within US borders by the million using military style methods; and [many other noble things].
So you will say, that’s simply not grounded in reality in this political climate and this day and age. I respectfully disagree, and believe that men of determination and intelligence could engineer ways to go about the problem systematically while building increasing momentum. It wouldn’t all come at once, but that’s also with the understanding that we also don’t have decades to spare.
And yes, the media is priority one. It seems we agree on that.
I respect your drive but brother those examples you mentioned in a different time and world were not when half the country had the direct opposite goals.
We are generations away from any of this happening.
As long as the USA is #1, there will not be any stomach for revolution. You and I may see the big picture, but others will not and we must respect that out of love for our Neighbor. Be patient and be prepared for long-suffering. Someday our time will come.
When a country defends the integrity of its borders it is a revolution?
Taco guard deploys to the border.
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US immigration is gaming Google to create a mirage of mass deportations
Thousands of press releases about decade-old enforcement actions topped search results, all updated with a timestamp from after Trump’s inauguration
www.theguardian.com
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If there is not enough room to keep these people in custody, why is this not a perfect basis to build much larger and more efficient detention facilities (you can call them whatever sounds good to the public)?
I’d seize on that opportunity. When the government really wants something to get done, they can make it happen very quickly (see rebuilding of LA freeways after 1994 earthquake). Does this administration want to get things done?
Six big immigration changes under Trump - and their impact so far
The sweeping changes are affecting thousands of migrants, but how do they compare to past policies?
www.bbc.com
Interesting article. Will share a couple of the highlights below:
"Deportations are not unique to the Trump administration.
Biden carried out deportations as well, with 271,000 immigrants deported to 192 countries in fiscal year 2024.
In total, Biden carried out 1.5 million deportations in his four years, according to figures by the Migration Policy Institute. That is around the same that was carried out under Trump's first term.
That number is lower than deportations carried out under Barack Obama's first term, which added up to a total of 2.9 million."
And:
"There is an estimated backlog of 3.6m cases in US immigration courts, and migrants often have to wait years. Many have been left wondering whether those cases will still be heard.
Trump has fired several top immigration court officials since taking office, however, which may impact the processing of those cases."
Finally,
"It remains unclear how many raids have taken place since Inauguration Day, but on 26 January alone 956 people were arrested by ICE and other agencies in locations including Chicago, Newark, New Jersey and Miami.
For comparison, ICE detained more than 149,700 in the 2024 fiscal year under the Biden administration, which equals an average of 409 a day."
US immigration is gaming Google to create a mirage of mass deportations
Thousands of press releases about decade-old enforcement actions topped search results, all updated with a timestamp from after Trump’s inauguration
This is fake news, ICE cannot force all of these old news stories to update their tags. It's the opposite, these old news stories are being updated by the tribesmen, in order to create the appearance of insane amounts of brutal deportations to generate unrest.
I WISH there were as many deportations as the fake news claims. But, the tribesmen are trying to play both the left and the right (guys like you):
- Make the left feel like there is a dictatorship of Nazi's rounding up the poor brown people.
- Make the right feel like more is being done than is actually being done to lull them into a false sense of security.
Then, they release more fake news claiming it is ICE somehow updating these news stories in order to make themselves look good, to trick guys like you. I hope you and others are smarter than this, because ICE has no control over news agencies.
I agree. I wish we could go all out like Penitent’s suggestions, WW2 style, but it’s just not the same country today.
I thought about it more today though and wondered, well the government totally shut down the country for Covid under the guise of a pandemic. Most people just went along and accepted it. Maybe what’s needed is to push the envelope.
Six big immigration changes under Trump - and their impact so far
The sweeping changes are affecting thousands of migrants, but how do they compare to past policies?
Interesting article. Will share a couple of the highlights below:
"Deportations are not unique to the Trump administration.
Biden carried out deportations as well, with 271,000 immigrants deported to 192 countries in fiscal year 2024.
In total, Biden carried out 1.5 million deportations in his four years, according to figures by the Migration Policy Institute. That is around the same that was carried out under Trump's first term.
That number is lower than deportations carried out under Barack Obama's first term, which added up to a total of 2.9 million."
And:
"There is an estimated backlog of 3.6m cases in US immigration courts, and migrants often have to wait years. Many have been left wondering whether those cases will still be heard.
Trump has fired several top immigration court officials since taking office, however, which may impact the processing of those cases."
Finally,
"It remains unclear how many raids have taken place since Inauguration Day, but on 26 January alone 956 people were arrested by ICE and other agencies in locations including Chicago, Newark, New Jersey and Miami.
For comparison, ICE detained more than 149,700 in the 2024 fiscal year under the Biden administration, which equals an average of 409 a day."
Tom Homan addressed this, but I have to find the video. He stated something like Biden didn’t actually deport that many people because those numbers were all apprehensions at the border. They weren’t actually internal removals. Something to that effect.
In other words, they were fudging the numbers.
"Sir, this is a McDonalds."
Why aren't you actually talking to people in power rather than ask rhetorical questions no one will ever read?
By the way, if you bothered to actually stay on top of events, Director Hooman says the ONLY thing limiting even more deportations is money. If they had more money, they could get more agents, more deportation holding centers, and more airplanes to ship them out.
The money question is limited by Congress, thus, that is where the issue is. So what are you doing to lobby Congress, other than feebly write here?
This is a think tank, few if any in positions of power read this board. Use this board to plan action in the real world. This board is not even close to a substitute for the real world, and complaining here only degrades the quality of conversation.
We can only pray Trump is planning a false flag in order to scare Congress into funding ultra-scale mass deportations. That would indeed be the fastest and easiest solution.
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Congress holds the purse. To get more money on detention centers, Congress would have to amend the budget. You could also try to move funds from other programs, already in lets say the DOD budget, but this wouldn't provide long term financing.
Wait . . . You are saying the numbers are exaggerated by the media to trick us retards into thinking Trump is doing something substantial to lull us into complacency when he really isn’t deporting that many people. But you’re also saying I’m off base for believing Trump should be doing more and demanding observable results beyond untrustworthy headlines. “Trump isn’t as effective as the media says but don’t expect more from him.”
You're off-base for complaining here when it will have absolutely zero impact. As for observable results, Hooman has already stated what the problem is which you are ignoring at this point.
I’d imagine this is just mock trolling but in any event, the left is such a volatile and impulsive group you wouldn’t really need that. They lapse into violence over rhetoric alone. If that happens it might give you an excuse to do, you know, something to address it. Like giving certain organizations or associations of individuals a designation that wouldn’t be good for them and building on that. And also looking into uh, anyone who supports them.