The Work-Life Balance Thread

There are already countries that are experimenting with the 4 day work week. Some of them doing 4 ten hour days and some of them even trialing 4 eight hour days. I think a lot more companies should be offering 4 ten hour days. I honestly don't think its hard for them to do. It just needs a cultural change.
No serious company is offering this. And none making big money are doing this either.

Sure, you can work somewhere and make 100k showing up 4x a week

But nobody whose making big bucks has that in their brain housing group.
 
I've seen several blue collar and white collar jobs offering 4 tens. It can absolutely be done for many careers. Many people would also be content with an easier job making $100k.

I have not seen 4 eight hour days being offered. At least in the US.
 
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I have not seen 4 eight hour days being offered. At least in the US.
You are right. The 4 eight hour days is something being trailed in some of the more socialist European countries and is not available in the USA or Australia etc. I don't necessarily agree with the 4 eight hour days. But I think 4 ten hour days is quite practical.
 
You are right. The 4 eight hour days is something being trailed in some of the more socialist European countries and is not available in the USA or Australia etc. I don't necessarily agree with the 4 eight hour days. But I think 4 ten hour days is quite practical.

4 days @ 10 hrs is a decent solution. Most people in blue collar work that are used to 8 hrs could easily sacrifice 10 if it meant an extra day off. It's disruptive initally, but not a huge shift long term. I think that extra day would likely also add to more productivity if workers know it's only a 4 day week. I would definitely prefer those hours.

I can see it becoming more normal in the short term.
 
The reality today though is that a lot of salaried workers are often doing 5 ten or eleven hour days while only getting paid for 38 hour weeks (5 eight hour days minus the unpaid lunch breaks) according to their contract. For workers who are paid hourly a lot of companies do not want them to go over the contracted hours because they are stingy and do not want to pay overtime rates.
 
The reality today though is that a lot of salaried workers are often doing 5 ten or eleven hour days while only getting paid for 38 hour weeks (5 eight hour days minus the unpaid lunch breaks) according to their contract. For workers who are paid hourly a lot of companies do not want them to go over the contracted hours because they are stingy and do not want to pay overtime rates.
I was just talking to the assistant superintendent at work and he was understandably annoyed for being salary. He works 50-60 hours in the summer but gets payed for 40.

I saw a job posting recently that was 3 twelves but you get payed for 40 hours. I thought that was pretty cool. I'd even work 13 hour shifts to have 4 days off.
 
There are already countries that are experimenting with the 4 day work week. Some of them doing 4 ten hour days and some of them even trialing 4 eight hour days. I think a lot more companies should be offering 4 ten hour days. I honestly don't think its hard for them to do. It just needs a cultural change.
4 ten hours days is nice if you WFH or have a short commute. However 4 10 hours days with a long commute, and you are basically working and sleeping 4 out of 7 days. I would not like that one bit.
 
There are already countries that are experimenting with the 4 day work week. Some of them doing 4 ten hour days and some of them even trialing 4 eight hour days. I think a lot more companies should be offering 4 ten hour days. I honestly don't think its hard for them to do. It just needs a cultural change.

I was offered a 4 day (8hr/day) work week position a couple of years ago. They said in the interview process that they didn't slash salaries to do it. When it came time to negotiate, the salary they were offering was exactly 80% (4/5) of the market. I brought this up because I was specifically told salaries wouldn't be affected. They apologized but didn't budge. The CEO and CIO were women.

I didn't take the position because I'm younger and want to earn the extra money now to invest for retirement. I did like the idea of 3 day weekends, but not at killing my earning potential. I would have taken less benefits or something, but not salary.

I keep up on the company and they do still offer 4 day work weeks.
 
No serious company is offering this. And none making big money are doing this either.

Sure, you can work somewhere and make 100k showing up 4x a week

But nobody whose making big bucks has that in their brain housing group.
Just because a company is making big bucks, doesn't mean you will be too.

I've worked for a company that let me choose between 5 days/8 hours, 4 days/10 hours, 3 days/12 hours. I picked the 12 hours and worked 6-7 days a week. Was able to clear 100k. It was a smaller business, but I made off well, especially for the work I was doing.

At the end of the day, do what works best for you.
 
Just because a company is making big bucks, doesn't mean you will be too.

I've worked for a company that let me choose between 5 days/8 hours, 4 days/10 hours, 3 days/12 hours. I picked the 12 hours and worked 6-7 days a week. Was able to clear 100k. It was a smaller business, but I made off well, especially for the work I was doing.

At the end of the day, do what works best for you.
Yes it is absolutely possible to be well compensated at a smaller firm. Not suggesting it's not possible.

It's just less likely due to the structure. I've worked at a company with 80 employees, 8000 employees, 80k employees and 180k employees (military). The larger ones tend to be more willing to shell out the OPEX for payroll for skilled employees. I would never have made what I was worth at a small company unless I waited 15 years to become a VP....
 
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