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The Movie Thread

Regarding films, to this day i've never seen The Godfather trilogy.
I keep waiting for a good rainy day. Winter is coming up, so maybe soon.
They usually play them around Thanksgiving. They're good to watch anytime.

The Sopranos is my favourite TV show so I think i'll enjoy it.
I have a hard time seeing how someone can love The Sopranos without seeing The Godfather. The show almost doesn't even make sense without the movies.
 
No, I’m being completely serious. There’s no question that this film was made from a secular perspective but I still found some value to be gained from it. If you want to credit what value there is to be gained in it to the Lord then I certainly won’t argue with you. As far as the father’s concern it really did come across as genuine parental concern for a child in trouble.

The redemption arc? No it was definitely in more of a street urchin led down a bad path by an unsavory mentor story. Kind of a very watered down play on Dickens if anything.

I’m afraid that at this point if a film isn’t “woke” and has some degree of good messaging then it might actually be worth a watch. I hate to admit it but by this standard something like “Morbius” becomes a passably decent film not because it’s actually any good but because it’s sort of watchable and the actor’s seem to be enjoying themselves. Granted it’s an a “it’s so bad it’s good” kind of way. I’ve never been particularly fond of that kind of movie, either it’s just good enough to be worth your time or it isn’t, but lately even a bad movie will get a pass if it doesn’t set out to insult its own audience. I do think it’s sad that’s the point we’ve come to, though.
I guess I see what you are saying. There are movies made where a person in a completely heathen setting achieves growth, overcomes their problems, and finds love and acceptance within the "love is love" mindset.

I have come to see this kind of thing as satanic propagsnda designed to undermine and destroy society, to present and promote a Godless view of life.
 
They usually play them around Thanksgiving. They're good to watch anytime.


I have a hard time seeing how someone can love The Sopranos without seeing The Godfather. The show almost doesn't even make sense without the movies.


I've probably watched The Sopranos three times completely. I understand the connection but never had any desire to check out The Godfather. David Chase's storytelling and the characters were so incredibly engaging I got everything I needed. I also probably was more interested in the rise in HBO and quality TV shows back then, so films took a back seat - especially classic films.

The first time watching The Sopranos weekly on TV was so incredible. Especially that final season. Nothing else like it at the time. I think the waiting each week and between seasons made it more special too.
 
“My wife made the mistake of going to see the latest Kung Fu Panda with her mother and she said it was just too dark. All of our kids seemed to have a cloud around them for the rest of the day.”

I’m not trying to be critical here, I’m genuinely curious, is there anything in particular that you could point to or specify that was problematic about KFP4? I ask because I saw the film a few weeks ago myself and was pleasantly surprised by the lack of any “woke” or overly modern elements in it. I know that I’ve mentioned the “wokeness scale” before but the only thing even remotely “woke” was Po saying that he had two dads. The thing is that this is very true for many adopted kids who meet their biological parents. There was his adoptive father who raised him and Bryan Cranston’s character who is his biological father. They were both very concerned with his well being and making sure he was ok-it was kind of sweet actually seeing how freaked out they were and the lengths they went to in spite of their own shortcomings. Now don’t get me wrong, this is obviously mass market entertainment. It’s no Ghibli movie, or even on the same level as Pixar’s work in better days-Wall-E and Up come to mind. That being said, it was far better than almost anything from Disney over the last 3-4 years. I’m told Encanto was the last remotely good one.

I wasn’t really sure what to expect but I’d enjoyed the previous films and found this one to be fairly good. There was actually a nice theme of righting your wrongs and the dangers of following a flawed mentor. I think it was even said that you can’t blame your own awful behavior on your past troubles-something that a lot of people could learn from. Some people hate Awkwafina, but I’m kind of indifferent towards her. I liked her character and thought that she was interesting and her dynamic with Po worked well. It was pretty easy to see where they were going with her character but I still enjoyed seeing things play out. They even gave Ian McShane’s character something of a redemption arc in this film. He’s one of those actors who always delivers regardless of the film’s quality. Not surprising after Deadwood, but this is obviously far removed from that.

The only thing that I can really criticize is the “Furious Five” barely being present outside of a brief nonspeaking cameo. Maybe Angelina Jolie and Jackie Chan are too expensive for voiceovers these days?
I didn’t see the film myself, but my kids are pretty sensitive to darker content and we try to avoid it in our household. From what my wife said to me, the tone was just a bit dark and maybe not as fun as the first film. She also mentioned that the two dads theme through the movie was a bit insinuating—she didn’t know the backstory from the previous movie of why he has two dads in the film. She felt that without that context in this film, she came away thinking it was a subtle programming move for clown world beliefs. I understand there may be redeemable themes in the story, but I try to remember that kids process everything very differently than we adults when seeing a film. That is why so many films are simply must not see nowadays. I’ve even found myself walking away from a film disgusted at its degenerate push—angry that evil is flaunted so much. There’s just not much redeemable media anymore.
 
I recently saw one of the worst movies I’ve seen, Land of Bad, featuring the now unbelievably fat Russell Crowe. I almost posted this in the Woke and Obese US Military thread, as it could have been an advertisement for it, or more accurately just a reflection. It was so bad I’m going to spoil the entire thing here so you don’t watch it.

The plot involves a botched rescue mission to recover a CIA asset by Delta Force soldiers somewhere in Indonesia or some Islamic Pacific island country. The film centers around the communications between Crowe, an obese drone operator in Las Vegas who looks like he’s dressed to hit the casinos, and a newbie Air Force attachment to the special forces squad.

The Delta guys are totally cool with the Air Force newbie joining them in a HALO dive to infiltrate the bad guy base, despite his representation that he’s completely unqualified to do so. They give him instructions 10 seconds before jumping out of a plane.

The drone operator base in Vegas is run by a crew more interested in the outcome of a March Madness tournament they’re watching on television than doing close air support. While the rest of the base watches basketball, Crowe and his diversity teammate are involved in assisting the Delta crew in a life or death firefight with endless bad guys who use WWII Japanese tunnels to outmaneuver their American attackers. The Delta boys get ripped up by the local RPG-having islanders.

After some drama between the slob Crowe and his boss, Crowe and his female black helper agree to a shift change in drone operators during a critical time in the operation. Before Crowe leaves, the Delta crew tells him to call in a series of air strikes on their position in a strategic effort to rescue their boy. Crowe gives up control of the drone and goes shopping for organic cheese while what remains of the original Delta squad attempts a daring rescue mission at the bad guy base.

While Crowe is waiting in line to buy his cheese, he gets a call on his cell phone from one of the Delta soldiers in the field, advising him that they rescued the CIA guy and need him to call off the bombs in a few minutes or else they’ll die. The Vegas base isn’t answering phone calls from the Delta squad because they are all engrossed in a basketball game, so Crowe drives over to the base, barges into the drone control room, and calls off the air strike himself at the 11th hour.

Crowe then explains to the entire base staff why monitoring communications with soldiers under fire in the field is more important than basketball, and the staff responds in bewildered silence as Crowe destroys their TV. Patriotic music plays while the remaining force is extracted from the bad guy base.

On its face I thought the movie was poorly conceived, poorly acted and completely implausible. Then I thought that perhaps this was not the case. Maybe in clown world this is how things really work behind the scenes. American soldiers operating in a foreign country for reasons completely unrelated to national defense, reliant upon big bad air support to blow up all the bad guys, but the guys supposed to be pulling the trigger for bombs are watching TV 10,000 miles away while the phone rings unanswered.
 
I re-watched the Eminem film '8 Mile' the other day. It occurred to me while I was watching it, that this was probably the last film ever made to feature a white hero and a cast of all black villains.

8 Mile was released in 2002. Can anyone think of any films since then with a white good guy and coloured bad guys? Serious question.
 
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I recently rewatched How the West Was Won (1962). An impressive all-star cast. A lot of cheesey acting by today's standards, but a good, wholesome, inspiring story from the days when one need not be ashamed of one's history. Of particular note are the two Prescott daughters: Eve (Carroll Baker) and Lillith (Debbie Reynolds). To me, Eve represents everything that was good about early American womanhood; she longs to find a strong, manly man to carve out a life with on the wild frontier, whatever the danger or hardship. She marries the rough but brave and upright mountain-man Linus Rawlings (Jimmy Stewart) and vows to start a homestead on the furthest point West where her parents perished tragically. Her sister Lillith embodies so much of what is wrong with modern American/Western womanhood. She craves glory, fame, ego validation, empty creature comforts. She becomes a tawdry dancehall girl and takes up with and eventually marries the suave but shallow tinhorn gambler Cleve Van Valen (Gregory Peck). In the end she ends up a childless old widow, having lost Cleve and all of their empty lucre.

 
Saw the new Planet of the Apes today. Pretty solid. Pretty apt. There's a religious element to it that I think a lot of people here would enjoy. I'll give it an 8. It's only a matter of time before Disney runs this franchise into the ground as well so I'm surprised that this one came out as good as it did.
 
Saw the new Planet of the Apes today. Pretty solid. Pretty apt. There's a religious element to it that I think a lot of people here would enjoy. I'll give it an 8. It's only a matter of time before Disney runs this franchise into the ground as well so I'm surprised that this one came out as good as it did.
I'll probably check it out; I thought that these new PotA reboots were quite alright.
 
I recently rewatched How the West Was Won (1962). An impressive all-star cast. A lot of cheesey acting by today's standards, but a good, wholesome, inspiring story from the days when one need not be ashamed of one's history. Of particular note are the two Prescott daughters: Eve (Carroll Baker) and Lillith (Debbie Reynolds). To me, Eve represents everything that was good about early American womanhood; she longs to find a strong, manly man to carve out a life with on the wild frontier, whatever the danger or hardship. She marries the rough but brave and upright mountain-man Linus Rawlings (Jimmy Stewart) and vows to start a homestead on the furthest point West where her parents perished tragically. Her sister Lillith embodies so much of what is wrong with modern American/Western womanhood. She craves glory, fame, ego validation, empty creature comforts. She becomes a tawdry dancehall girl and takes up with and eventually marries the suave but shallow tinhorn gambler Cleve Van Valen (Gregory Peck). In the end she ends up a childless old widow, having lost Cleve and all of their empty lucre.


Wow...what a cast! That's a lot of big names from that time period.
 
I recently saw one of the worst movies I’ve seen, Land of Bad, featuring the now unbelievably fat Russell Crowe. I almost posted this in the Woke and Obese US Military thread, as it could have been an advertisement for it, or more accurately just a reflection. It was so bad I’m going to spoil the entire thing here so you don’t watch it.

The plot involves a botched rescue mission to recover a CIA asset by Delta Force soldiers somewhere in Indonesia or some Islamic Pacific island country. The film centers around the communications between Crowe, an obese drone operator in Las Vegas who looks like he’s dressed to hit the casinos, and a newbie Air Force attachment to the special forces squad.

The Delta guys are totally cool with the Air Force newbie joining them in a HALO dive to infiltrate the bad guy base, despite his representation that he’s completely unqualified to do so. They give him instructions 10 seconds before jumping out of a plane.

The drone operator base in Vegas is run by a crew more interested in the outcome of a March Madness tournament they’re watching on television than doing close air support. While the rest of the base watches basketball, Crowe and his diversity teammate are involved in assisting the Delta crew in a life or death firefight with endless bad guys who use WWII Japanese tunnels to outmaneuver their American attackers. The Delta boys get ripped up by the local RPG-having islanders.

After some drama between the slob Crowe and his boss, Crowe and his female black helper agree to a shift change in drone operators during a critical time in the operation. Before Crowe leaves, the Delta crew tells him to call in a series of air strikes on their position in a strategic effort to rescue their boy. Crowe gives up control of the drone and goes shopping for organic cheese while what remains of the original Delta squad attempts a daring rescue mission at the bad guy base.

While Crowe is waiting in line to buy his cheese, he gets a call on his cell phone from one of the Delta soldiers in the field, advising him that they rescued the CIA guy and need him to call off the bombs in a few minutes or else they’ll die. The Vegas base isn’t answering phone calls from the Delta squad because they are all engrossed in a basketball game, so Crowe drives over to the base, barges into the drone control room, and calls off the air strike himself at the 11th hour.

Crowe then explains to the entire base staff why monitoring communications with soldiers under fire in the field is more important than basketball, and the staff responds in bewildered silence as Crowe destroys their TV. Patriotic music plays while the remaining force is extracted from the bad guy base.

On its face I thought the movie was poorly conceived, poorly acted and completely implausible. Then I thought that perhaps this was not the case. Maybe in clown world this is how things really work behind the scenes. American soldiers operating in a foreign country for reasons completely unrelated to national defense, reliant upon big bad air support to blow up all the bad guys, but the guys supposed to be pulling the trigger for bombs are watching TV 10,000 miles away while the phone rings unanswered.

Everything about that movie seems legit except for the part where Crowe buys "organic" cheese.

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I re-watched the Eminem film '8 Mile' the other day. It occurred to me while I was watching it, that this was probably the last film ever made to feature a white hero and a cast of all black villains.

8 Mile was released in 2002. Can anyone think of any films since then with a white good guy and coloured bad guys? Serious question.

'Drive' had a White good guy and (openly bragging about it in the film) Jewish bad guys. That was 2011.
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I re-watched the Eminem film '8 Mile' the other day. It occurred to me while I was watching it, that this was probably the last film ever made to feature a white hero and a cast of all black villains.

8 Mile was released in 2002. Can anyone think of any films since then with a white good guy and coloured bad guys? Serious question.
Serenity, which basically served as an epilogue to the canceled TV series Firefly, had the black actor Chiwetel Ejiofor as a villain with white Nathan Fillion as the hero. That was 2005.

Ejiofor was so good too.



Since Obama though? Rare. Practically unheard of.
 
Can anyone think of any films since then with a white good guy and coloured bad guys? Serious question.

Funnily enough, I just answered my own question.

I watched the 2020 film 'Extraction' today. It's an incredibly good action movie featuring a white guy (Chris Hemsworth), killing a bunch of Bangladeshis, with the help of a beautiful Iranian woman. Now this is the type of diversity in movies I can enjoy!
 
Funnily enough, I just answered my own question.

I watched the 2020 film 'Extraction' today. It's an incredibly good action movie featuring a white guy (Chris Hemsworth), killing a bunch of Bangladeshis, with the help of a beautiful Iranian woman. Now this is the type of diversity in movies I can enjoy!

The sequel is just as good as well! Although this time he kills a bunch of guys who look like RVF ortho-bros haha. I really hope they make a third movie. It's a great franchise.
 
The Case for Christ about former atheist Lee Strobel trying to disprove the Christian message that Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead after his wife converted after a woman saved her child from choking. Good film :)
 
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