Cernovich is one of the still active manosphere persons, although he is no longer a red pill, self-help, PUA type, probably hasn't been since at least 2015 when he moved into politics. Somehow he never got banned or deplatformed. I always felt that this was the result of his lawyer training. He knew how to play angles or to deny involvement enough to avoid the ban hammer.
I used to read his stuff back in his Danger and Play blogging days. I read Gorilla Mindset. I read the book he published with Vox Day, 'Maga Mindset'. I listened to his podcast. I was drawn in by his point of view and his no-nonsense style of speech. Then I got tired of him. His abrasiveness and ability to evoke engagement via ragebaiting tweets was enough to sour me, possibly permanently. I stopped reading his tweets over a year ago and now I don't even have a Twitter account. One of the things that soured me on Cernovich, beyond his prickly personality and form of writing, was the hypocrisy. I'll try to explain what I mean.
I only found out through one of the sites that hates him that he made seven figures from the divorce of his first wife. He would have been about 33 when this happened and that's when he started the Danger and Play blog. Reading him, I had no idea he was already "rich" because of this divorce. When I learned that a dude who fell into money preached about hard work and self-help the spell was broken and I stopped taking him seriously. Whenever he would tweet about knowing what hard work was, it was always some job he had as a teenager, tasseling corn or something. Whenever he talked about poverty, it was only that he grew up in poverty. He hasn't experienced poverty as an adult, as a dad, as a working-class person but he always had this better-than-you vibe that despised any man who wasn't well off by the time he turns 40.
And for all of the knowledge this guy has, all of the pull and influence he has, what has he done? What I mean is, this "alpha male" didn't start any companies, didn't employ men, hasn't expanded operations and grown a law practice to fight for the things he cares about (I know he tried to get some Epstein related stuff unsealed once, but what or where is his practice?). I also remember feeling annoyed with him when he said he didn't understand why people said having kids was expensive. Groceries and clothes weren't that bad, you could bargain shop to cheap things like strollers, etc. He didn't even think that kids are expensive because you either have to pay for childcare or one parent stays home and not everyone is making cash money or is wealthy enough so that both parents can stay at home full-time like him and his wife.
Anyway, I assume there are several others here who know of this guy since his name came up a lot in the Roosh, Vox Day, Stefan Molyneux manosphere era. Curious about your thoughts.
I used to read his stuff back in his Danger and Play blogging days. I read Gorilla Mindset. I read the book he published with Vox Day, 'Maga Mindset'. I listened to his podcast. I was drawn in by his point of view and his no-nonsense style of speech. Then I got tired of him. His abrasiveness and ability to evoke engagement via ragebaiting tweets was enough to sour me, possibly permanently. I stopped reading his tweets over a year ago and now I don't even have a Twitter account. One of the things that soured me on Cernovich, beyond his prickly personality and form of writing, was the hypocrisy. I'll try to explain what I mean.
I only found out through one of the sites that hates him that he made seven figures from the divorce of his first wife. He would have been about 33 when this happened and that's when he started the Danger and Play blog. Reading him, I had no idea he was already "rich" because of this divorce. When I learned that a dude who fell into money preached about hard work and self-help the spell was broken and I stopped taking him seriously. Whenever he would tweet about knowing what hard work was, it was always some job he had as a teenager, tasseling corn or something. Whenever he talked about poverty, it was only that he grew up in poverty. He hasn't experienced poverty as an adult, as a dad, as a working-class person but he always had this better-than-you vibe that despised any man who wasn't well off by the time he turns 40.
And for all of the knowledge this guy has, all of the pull and influence he has, what has he done? What I mean is, this "alpha male" didn't start any companies, didn't employ men, hasn't expanded operations and grown a law practice to fight for the things he cares about (I know he tried to get some Epstein related stuff unsealed once, but what or where is his practice?). I also remember feeling annoyed with him when he said he didn't understand why people said having kids was expensive. Groceries and clothes weren't that bad, you could bargain shop to cheap things like strollers, etc. He didn't even think that kids are expensive because you either have to pay for childcare or one parent stays home and not everyone is making cash money or is wealthy enough so that both parents can stay at home full-time like him and his wife.
Anyway, I assume there are several others here who know of this guy since his name came up a lot in the Roosh, Vox Day, Stefan Molyneux manosphere era. Curious about your thoughts.
