The Japan Thread



I don't endorse the part about karma, which is probably some leftover WW2 grudge from Japan's neighbors, but that stat is stunning, not the sign of a healthy society.

Japanese girls are pretty cute so I am not surprised the demand is there. The other thing is that on top of official prostitutes Japan has a huge sugar baby culture. Many office worker women in their 20s are dating middle aged managers and high earning salary men in their office and receive a monthly allowance, vacations, gifts, etc from the men.
 
Prostitution is totally normal there. Not looked down on or even seen as all that immoral. It's part of culture and is seen as stress relief similarly to drinking for married working men.

Yes, it's really sad to hear.



Maybe someone like @Laner could shed light on this, maybe it's just not the most savvy parts of Tokyo.
 
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There's a very Japanese tendency to commoditize these sort of emotions and ideas that are see as something that can't have a price assigned. Besides the prosecution you also have lots of men spending money on these Japanese pop idol groups via doing thing like buying hundreds of copies of a CD in the hopes of drawing a ticket that allows them to stand in front of their favorite performer for 3 seconds and shake her hand. These guys will also buy all her photobooks, show up to concerts dressed in her member color, participate in campaigns to make sure she gets as much screen time as possible - basically mega simp behavior but directed to a girl that doesn't even know he exists.



From the other gender, we have this:


Issei looks like one cool Japanese guy. He’s got it all, expensive clothes, the perfectly messed up hair, a boyish grin frozen in time, a curled up lip that makes smoking seem sexy, and a monthly income of 30,000 dollars. And more than a dozen girlfriends! How does he do it? He sells illusions and delusions, all wrapped inside the dark and moody walls of his Café Rakkyo where he and twenty of his stylish employees sell their love and attention to any woman lonely enough to fall for them and to pay.

Host clubs are brothels but instead of the men selling sex to women - they are selling emotional intimacy. I remember one of the guys in that documentary that said he actually tries to avoid having sex with his female customers. I watched this documentary back when I was still fairly new in exploring the manosphere online scene and thought it served as an example of how men and women value different things from each other.
 
This first video above is very misleading....more than half of those girls are just dressed in modern styles including "Otaku" or "Harajuku" and are not street prostitutes.

Yeah the first video is a mix of prostitutes and hipster comiccon women.

The funny thing is that even the prostitutes in Japan look modest by western standards.


Nevertheless, it seems like Japan is slowly slipping towards increased poverty and social dislocation, and things are likely to get worse as one of their main economic anchors, their auto industry, is being trounced by Chinese competition.

Part of this problem in Japan is that prostitution and the yakuza have been part of their cultural landscape for centuries, even before the country modernized. So with their current economic decline which started after japan had its monetary wings clipped by the Plaza Accord in the 1980s, they are reverting back to those practices.


"The park in Kabukicho has become a notorious hot spot for unregulated street prostitution, some of which involves minors engaging in unprotected sex. Violence and harassment are prevalent, making the area increasingly unsafe — a stark contrast to Japan's image as a safe country.

In the past, Japanese men used to be criticized for going to Southeast Asia for sex. Now, it appears to be the other way around, with foreign tourists and residents flocking to the area, fueled by a weak yen, robust inbound tourism and social media posts."

 
Yes, it's really sad to hear.



Maybe someone like @Laner could shed light on this, maybe it's just not the most savvy parts of Tokyo.


My local batting cage is in Kabukicho and Okubo park has been a place for hookers for a long time. What has changed recently is the astronomical numbers of foreigners who are in Tokyo right now. Foreigners can't use regular Japanese brothels, so a bunch of girls from poor SEA countries were brought in, dressed in over the top Japanese cultural gear and sold to horny foreigners. Some are certainly Japanese, and some are certainly under age and most likely runaways. I see outreach groups in Kabukicho that deal with this segment of society specifically, which I think it pretty important. But as far as horny Indian dudes perving on the Okubo girls, those guys are not going to get a Japanese hooker ever, and since there are so many Indians now the local Yaks in Kabukicho are going to find a way to service their insatiable needs.
 
My local batting cage is in Kabukicho and Okubo park has been a place for hookers for a long time. What has changed recently is the astronomical numbers of foreigners who are in Tokyo right now. Foreigners can't use regular Japanese brothels, so a bunch of girls from poor SEA countries were brought in, dressed in over the top Japanese cultural gear and sold to horny foreigners. Some are certainly Japanese, and some are certainly under age and most likely runaways. I see outreach groups in Kabukicho that deal with this segment of society specifically, which I think it pretty important. But as far as horny Indian dudes perving on the Okubo girls, those guys are not going to get a Japanese hooker ever, and since there are so many Indians now the local Yaks in Kabukicho are going to find a way to service their insatiable needs.
Is that a real thing in Japan in that video where women are saying if their boyfriend has dinner with another woman its cheating (if its not disclosed) but if he visits a prostitute that is not considered cheating? Or was it just heavy editing of the video to mostly choose women who conformed to that viewpoint to make an interesting video.
 
Is that a real thing in Japan in that video where women are saying if their boyfriend has dinner with another woman its cheating (if its not disclosed) but if he visits a prostitute that is not considered cheating? Or was it just heavy editing of the video to mostly choose women who conformed to that viewpoint to make an interesting video.
Keep in mind there are no Christian values especially in regards of relationships which built Japan, its alien to them. To them sex =/= love.
 
Is that a real thing in Japan in that video where women are saying if their boyfriend has dinner with another woman its cheating (if its not disclosed) but if he visits a prostitute that is not considered cheating? Or was it just heavy editing of the video to mostly choose women who conformed to that viewpoint to make an interesting video.

There are certain things that Japanese put above sex with a hooker in regards to importance. The main one is peace in the home. I know divorced couples, but it's most often in extreme circumstances with no other options. For the most part, Japanese tend to stay together if they have a family. So if the wife stops putting out, the husband might just spend a couple hours a month at the brothel. If he comes home happy, then the wife will often just let it slide. This happens to a lesser extent with mistresses though. It's also not unusual, and many young girls strolling around Minato have a married sponsor or two (or three, or four). This is absolutely seen as cheating, but again some families choose to stay together rather than make a few dinners and dalliances a month into a home wrecking issue.
 
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