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It was a family with three children and the pilot. Six people.

God bless.

 
This is sad. An entire family members from Spain were killed in the helicopter crash.



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The rotor blade came off and the chopper dropped like a stone. Usually in case of engine shutdown the rotors will slow down the fall to the point where the passengers could survive the crash, not the case here. Bad mechanical failure, either poor maintenance or a pretty small chance of foul play, if someone wanted the Spanish CEO dead.
 
The rotor blade came off and the chopper dropped like a stone. Usually in case of engine shutdown the rotors will slow down the fall to the point where the passengers could survive the crash, not the case here. Bad mechanical failure, either poor maintenance or a pretty small chance of foul play, if someone wanted the Spanish CEO dead.

My first thought was foul play could be in place but didn't want to post out of respect for the victims but that looked more like a small bomb or whatever on that chopper, rotor blades don't just "come off" unless there was some insane maintenance negligence. Like you said even if an engine fails you will still have lift from the rotor blades and you can glide the thing down quickly in autorotation.

The crash looked very unnatural. RIP, what a waste.
 
My first thought was foul play could be in place but didn't want to post out of respect for the victims but that looked more like a small bomb or whatever on that chopper, rotor blades don't just "come off" unless there was some insane maintenance negligence. Like you said even if an engine fails you will still have lift from the rotor blades and you can glide the thing down quickly in autorotation.

The crash looked very unnatural. RIP, what a waste.
What appears to be complete main rotor separation is leading to mast bumping as a possible cause:

 
The video in e plrbs unm's post describes how that can happen. And operator error can definitely play a role in mechanical failures of all sorts

And mechanical failures can be completely outside the hands of the pilot and usually are. It's not impossible that pilot error played a role in this accident. But it is highly disrespectful to the dead pilot and passengers to make assumptions to push a narrative when the facts of the case are not known.
 

The female pilot flying the Black Hawk helicopter that collided with an American Airlines flight, made multiple mistakes and ignored a warning from her co-pilot, according to the New York Times.

Tragic.

The New York Times reports that there were multiple mistakes made leading up to the tragedy that took over 60 lives.

“Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course,” the NYT reports.

The report also puts blame on the air traffic controller for not being clear and urgent enough however Warrant Officer Andrew Eaves, who was co-piloting and the instructor of Captain Rebecca Lobach, told her to turn left. She didn’t.

“He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank.”

“Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet. She did not turn left,” reported the NYT.
 
Sucks to be that guy. If he had ripped control of the aircraft away from her, his career would have been over.

However, by not taking control, his career was ended even more permanently!

Pretty much sums up the death of the "West" in a microcosm. Wussy, corrupt men who only care about their reputations, afraid to do the right thing even if it means the end of their life (or civilization's life).
 
Apparently she was making selfies (there were pics online just after the tragedy happened I didn't save them unfortunately) and her family did everything to get it removed from the Internet. Not sure if it was from the "accident" flight or an earlier one but taking selfies while pretending to control a helicopter is probably the ultimate form of narcissism.

I'm not even going to say anything more as I respect the forum rules.
 
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The fact that the passenger killed was a high-profile businessman increases the possibility of foul play, though an accident is still a lot more likely at this point, barring more information - Occam's.

This being said,

Escobar served as CEO of Rail Infrastructure at Siemens Mobility, the transportation solutions division of Siemens AG. He wasn´t Spanish Siemens CEO anymore:

"He had recently taken up the post of CEO of rail infrastructure at Siemens Mobility, following a two-year stint as president and CEO of the German technology firm in Spain."



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