The Epstein Docs

I’ve read many personal stories from women who weren’t even allowed to see their babies or even find out if they had a boy or girl. There is usually a lot of coercion involved. Parents sent their daughter to give birth there to protect the family from shame, etc., not because it was necessarily in the best interest of the mother and child. Studies show most women would keep their babies if they received a couple thousand dollars in financial support. Adoption is a big money maker in the US and everyone wants fresh newborns. This is a fact. If you are interested, there are many groups on FB that discuss the realities of adoption from the perspective of adoptees, this is something you would have to search out yourself though.

Yes I’m Russian, but if you use terms like “KGB” in 2026, I doubt you know much. They procured kids from many places, especially children from impoverished areas or in desperate situations. However, Russia cannot be singled out for this, as there is pedophilic sex tourism in Africa, South America, Asia, etc. Many Russian state officials, including Putin, call out America and our elites as Satanic and other things, actually someone just posted a clip today in this very forum, so try looking these things up if you curious.
Were those Catholic organizations in question as far as the stories you mentioned go? I'm not interested in these things as everybody I know has a tight knit family and the chances of their kids going missing are nonexistent.

It's still called kgb in Belarus and I could have used the current term but it's the same bureaucracy, you can rename the agency so what, the employee turnover rate ain't that fast, and there's nepotism.
 
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here is one example of the nefarious past of these type of places. This was not uncommon. The following is not to suggest they killed babies intentional, but that these places had poor standards of care, caused more harm than good, did not support keeping families intact, and at the very least treated the bodies of babies in a less than respectful way. Yes, I know it’s NPR, but I don’t have to time to commit to a paper on this right now, so again, feel free to look into this in your own time.

That's from long before Epstein and not related to pedophilia.

According to that article the whole of Irish society looked down on such mothers and children, they were treated like lepers, they were lucky that there was somebody to take them in at all, families did not want them for bringing them shame.

The article says:
During parts of the 1930s and 1940s, more than 40% of children in these institutions did not live past their 1st birthday, a government report later found. Overall, about 15% of children in Ireland's mother and baby homes died, mostly of disease, malnutrition and neglect, the report says. There was no evidence of any deliberate killing.
This is the Great Depression era, Ireland regained independence in 1921. One 15 year old girl from my family got fired on the spot from her factory job for merely uttering a few words to one of her girlfriends there, those were totally different times.
 
Were those Catholic organizations in question as far as the stories you mentioned? I'm not interested in these things as everybody I know has a tight knit family and the chances of their kids going missing are nonexistent.

It's still called kgb in Belarus and I could have used the current term but it's the same bureaucracy, you can rename the agency so what, the employee turnover rate ain't that fast, and there's nepotism.
Some were specifically Catholic, yes, and as recently as the 1990s. The biggest wave was during the “Baby Scoop Era” of the 1960/1970s, which I already linked previously.


The modern day adoption agencies are just as bad. There is no reason for adoption to cost $60,000 (except as an industry for profit, similar to pharma). Again, if you are unfamiliar with what goes on, it will take too long to go into detail here (maybe in another thread). I don’t think the fact that they are Catholic itself makes a big difference, so sorry for any offense, but they did have a large presence in this area so that’s why I specified. People do criticize Christians for this, and I feel rightfully so. The example of St John of Kronstadt and St Olga of Alaska provide a better template for helping people. St John of Shanghai and San Francisco took in orphans under different circumstances as well, which is much different than coercing pregnant women into giving their newborns up for adoption to the highest bidder. I hope everyone here sees the potential for abuse here, especially after cases like this.

I think people should be interested because it is our duty as Christians to help the most vulnerable in our society, and that is why I have an interest in niche topics that do not necessarily reflect my day to day life. People like Epstein targeted vulnerable children.

Glory to God that your family does not have these experiences,

Anyway, what do you want Russian officials to do? i find this an amusing stance to take, given that these Epstein emails have shown so many involved with him from the United Nations to US politicians and socialites.

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A 60 Minutes documentary about the Vatican sending babies/children born out of wedlock to couples seeking to adopt in the US… marketed as “orphans”

 

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This guy Roger Avary matter of fact stating "(((They're))) eating babies" while Rogan plays dumb and pretends he doesn't know what he's talking about. Where's Eddie Bravo when Joe needs him? Avary goes on to say it is unfathomable that all this Epstein sh*t is being dropped left and right showing that our entire society and government are rotten to the core and people are just walking around like zombies as if nothing is happening because they're too scared to confront this brutal "luceferian" reality.

 
Some were specifically Catholic, yes, and as recently as the 1990s. The biggest wave was during the “Baby Scoop Era” of the 1960/1970s, which I already linked previously.
Ending in the 70s? Apparently in the aftermath of Roe vs Wade.

Looks like this 'baby scoop era' coincides with the period when single motherhood was stigmatized. Many families did not want the dishonor after their teenage daughter announced a pregnancy so the kid's trouble starts right there, it's the irresponsibility of the mother, tough luck, you'll pay for her mistake, Catholic charities were one of the ways to remedy such an unfortunate situation.

It's the same with rehab facilities which can be blamed for different things too, but the problems originate with the junkies themselves, likewise, normal people don't have children out of wedlock and love the ones they bring into the world, there's no risk of being scooped away for such kids.

Only your closest relatives give a damn, God help the kid if they want to get rid of him, be glad somebody is there offering help: https://www.openbible.info/topics/widows_and_orphans.

Trust governs human interactions, when people take in a kid when the adoption case is closed a leap of faith is made. Does the DCF checks on them periodically- I don't know, the child's fate relies on the vigilance of others in the family, coworkers of the new parents, neighbors and the community. Muslims don't have these problems, family honor dictates they must care for their distant family members, Middle Eastern Christians probably do the same.

The modern day adoption agencies are just as bad. There is no reason for adoption to cost $60,000 (except as an industry for profit, similar to pharma).
I don't know anything about the adoption business, if the adopting couple are willing to pay a lot of money to finalize the process such investment proves they care, giving children away for free is worse, and paying parents for foster care is problematic.

Maybe in the past orphans had to work as farmhands or in factories for the benefit of those who took them in, like Oliver Twist. No adoptive family can be fully vouched for, no one can guarantee that, biological parents can be abusive for that matter. The elderly with no relatives to rely on were also given foster homes in exchange for work in Europe in the 19th century.

don’t think the fact that they are Catholic itself makes a big difference, so sorry for any offense, but they did have a large presence in this area so that’s why I specified.
There's nothing offensive in your comment.

The Catholic adoption agencies were not in cahoots with Epstein acting like baby snatchers from a horror movie- as some could walk away with this impression from reading your original comment. So that's why I jumped in.

Anyway, what do you want Russian officials to do? i find this an amusing stance to take, given that these Epstein emails have shown so many involved with him from the United Nations to US politicians and socialites.
They had no reservations about this business, that's what I alluded to. Starting in the 90s apparently, the Russian government participated in the adoption business too, and either considered it safe or didn't care, Putin halted this practice recently only after the public heard some concerning news so American couples can't adopt from there anymore. Their intelligence had to know about Epstein from the start so they didn't think it was a problem, maybe they followed and kept an eye on the children, or were indifferent- one less mouth to feed in Russia, possibly trying to get rid of their difficult kids. Without abortion though nobody would be adopting kids from Russia or anywhere abroad.

People do criticize Christians for this, and I feel rightfully so. The example of St John of Kronstadt and St Olga of Alaska provide a better template for helping people. St John of Shanghai and San Francisco took in orphans under different circumstances as well, which is much different than coercing pregnant women into giving their newborns up for adoption to the highest bidder.
Contrasting long term, large scale group/institutional activities with the actions of select individuals does not do justice to the accused. There have been many but to name a few we have people like Don Bosco or father Lucian Krolikowski who organized the evacuation and care of the surviving Polish orphans whose parents and siblings perished in labor camps located on the hospitable Siberian soil.
 
A 60 Minutes documentary about the Vatican sending babies/children born out of wedlock to couples seeking to adopt in the US… marketed as “orphans”


I haven't watched the video but for each complaining person the producers were able to find and record, there definitely are hundreds if not thousands of cases where the help and their new circumstances are appreciated. Similarly, the Vatican is blamed for helping to evacuate Germans to South America after WW2. You can cheer or frown depending on who you are.

There's an agenda behind all these stories.

Pope Francis apologized for the Canadian scandal three years ago, which turned out to be a made up story.

 


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Whitney Webb who has been 5 years ahead of the MSM on Epstein reporting, claims here that Epstein did the human trafficking thing as a side hustle and that his main gig was what she calls "Financial Terrorism." Apparently Epstein's big thing was currency manipulation and money laundering. He also had a strong interest in tech and crypto, having had some kind of shady relationship with Brock Pearce of Tether and Coinbase (Epstein was an early investor). Epstein was primarily interested in tech and crypto as incognito tools of financial criminality and human trafficking.

 
Alex Jones... I don't know, something is off. Here he is on Fresh N' Fit dropping truth bombs mixed with BS. Claims Trump demanded all the Epstein files be released or everyone would get fired. So according to Alex, Trump is the big hero in all of this. "Trump turned Epstein in!"... "These files completely vindicate Trump!" while still refusing to 100% name the jew... Throws in a couple of "Muh, Israel's" to further muddy the waters.

Alex, like Trump has literally wed his lineage and bloodline to the synogogue of satan's. But don't believe your lying eyes on that point. They are all about the jews and continue with surface level anomalies and issues that could easily be resolved should they cross the Rubicon and go full counter-semite. For someone who seems to know so much, he knows shockingly little about (((them))).

 
Alex Jones... I don't know, something is off. Here he is on Fresh N' Fit dropping truth bombs mixed with BS. Claims Trump demanded all the Epstein files be released or everyone would get fired. So according to Alex, Trump is the big hero in all of this. "Trump turned Epstein in!"... "These files completely vindicate Trump!" while still refusing to 100% name the jew... Throws in a couple of "Muh, Israel's" to further muddy the waters.

Alex, like Trump has literally wed his lineage and bloodline to the synogogue of satan's. But don't believe your lying eyes on that point. They are all about the jews and continue with surface level anomalies and issues that could easily be resolved should they cross the Rubicon and go full counter-semite. For someone who seems to know so much, he knows shockingly little about (((them))).


I mean we do pretty much know that Trump was an informat on Epstein.

That's been pretty well established.

Trump was also lied to by Bondi that said all the fake news in there would harm him. It's clear that that was fake news in the documents and there is a lot of doctored shit in there for sure a la Biden admin seizure....and it turns out most of the documents vindicate Trump as not being a pedo.
 
So you're opposed to this? Or maybe you want Andrew to be arrested, but last? What would have to happen first before you could enjoy the simple pleasure of this picture?
I'm not opposed to this per se but it seems like a propaganda move to "show the world" how the British police is getting to the core of the problem.

I mean it's all over Euro news but the Paki rape gangs never get a mention. I thought you were smart enough to realize this.
 
I'm not opposed to this per se but it seems like a propaganda move to "show the world" how the British police is getting to the core of the problem.

I mean it's all over Euro news but the Paki rape gangs never get a mention. I thought you were smart enough to realize this.
I want a whole lot more people to be arrested, but this is a start, and I'm happy to see it even if the others haven't been arrested yet.
 
Whitney Webb who has been 5 years ahead of the MSM on Epstein reporting, claims here that Epstein did the human trafficking thing as a side hustle and that his main gig was what she calls "Financial Terrorism." Apparently Epstein's big thing was currency manipulation and money laundering. He also had a strong interest in tech and crypto, having had some kind of shady relationship with Brock Pearce of Tether and Coinbase (Epstein was an early investor). Epstein was primarily interested in tech and crypto as incognito tools of financial criminality and human trafficking.



Someone's getting a little to close over the target.....

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