The Destruction of Modern Women


I see little versions of this all the time. "I have all of this going on in my head" (fear in a car, a conversation I had about a topic you don't know about, friends that did this and said that, or didn't do this, etc) and somehow other people are supposed to know about it or even care about it because you think it's important - but it's not. Not too long ago (in fact just this week) I interacted with some family on things that in the moment literally mean nothing, and sometimes people just spout out nonsense that is not even relevant. Or, in their minds it is relevant, but it's certainly not pressing. So instead of just asking questions or requesting things nicely (can we do this, can you do this, etc) it's just a constant "Hey, I'm not telling you this but because I had this thought why didn't you do something about it". There are far more people that just say and do stuff that really isn't pressing, and create really dumb drama all the time. That's gotta be what this woman has done, at least in large part (and Robbins called her on it).
 
By the way, this guy (champagne dude) is gold in his approach, it's just matter of fact and he's totally honest about how cooked the current situation is in most parts of the world. It's funny that I came across it:



Even some of the links are practical and golden, I think, because they're just honest whereas most of the world just flatly isn't.
 
Women are too coddled in our society. Without real problems, they cry over discontinued Starbucks coffee drinks.


Honestly, the champagne guy basically states what I've seen for over 10 years now.

He had this gem, which is what I summed it up as about a year ago:

Two ends on the spectrum for taking them too seriously:

  • Priding yourself on being "chosen"
  • Disparaging yourself for not being chosen
As soon as you stop taking them seriously, after you realize their choices aren't respectable and are often flat-out stupid (even when they choose you), then you're more or less free. Believing their choices mean something about you, have some significance to your value as a man, holds you back and subjects you to manipulation. To a man who isn't ruled by that belief:

When you are a man who has objective things he has accomplished, made out of himself, carried himself well, etc and you then realize that there's nothing objective behind what women do or think (consensus), only remotely so if that, you end up realizing their decisions are arbitrary, especially when you realize life is about long term (wise or not, and full of regret if not the former), and not short term (them).

I'll leave the other stuff for him to say.
 

This might be fun to watch for us because we've all probably been around a woman like that; I certainly recognize her facial expression, but I don't think Robbins' statement is appropriate because it's too much. It seems like it would be overwhelming for most people, especially women.

I wonder if this counseling session has a history that indicates she could handle such a massive rebuke like that.

Do you all think this is productive?
 
Do you all think this is productive?
This is the problem all the boomers and (some, most) priests have though. No one ever rejects what is going on in the society, or tells women hard truths or realities, for fear of emotional responses or outbursts. Guess what, they're coming now and will be with a fury given the cost of living and crisis era problems already unfolding. The next 5 years is going to be "fun" let's just call it. Or not.
 
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This might be fun to watch for us because we've all probably been around a woman like that; I certainly recognize her facial expression, but I don't think Robbins' statement is appropriate because it's too much. It seems like it would be overwhelming for most people, especially women.

I wonder if this counseling session has a history that indicates she could handle such a massive rebuke like that.

Do you all think this is productive?
It really depends on the context, what was said before this minute-long clip and the whole back story. I think coming from Tony, in public no less, most women would basically be forced to accept it because of his high status and social credibility. If he softens his advice so she "won't feel bad" it accomplishes nothing and she probably won't change then because she already "feels bad" and is blaming her man for all her problems.
 
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