The Destruction of Modern Women
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Him, everyone deserves a break, down time, and to have a hobby. I don't think consumption of video games is the best choice, but if it allows him to blow off steam and relax, then it is better than burning out. And I bet she does have a hobby, shopping, and that is far more destructive than playing video games once in a while.
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Lol, I still haven’t bought The Ps5, anyone here has one, how would you critique its collection of games right now? Is The new Final Fantasy pretty good?
Women need to learn to shut up. Also none of this “men don’t need sex” discussion would exist if “marital rape” wasn’t illegal.
My response to this each time is that even in the context you are taking about which is going to a culturally traditional third world country and being lucky enough to find your virgin unicorn，you are still going to end up disappointed. You've described how boring going on a date with a woman to talk about Netflix would be. Now imagine this sort of boring interaction but for the rest of your life. If anything you would be even more bored with your tradwife since there's going to also be cultural and language barriers that's going to exist since as you've said, you have to go outside the west to find her.
In my responses to you I am assuming the best case scenario for you which is you finding your dream women abroad and marrying her. I am suggesting that even in this ideal scenario you would ultimately end up more unhappy then if you had just stayed single. The people who are suggesting you wouldn't be happy married are fully considering the context you have given which is dating outside of the west. What we are suggesting is that even in your own context and assuming you get exactly what you want, you would ultimately still be worse off since based on what you've written on this forum and the old ones on how feel about interacting with women any scenario where you have to be around a woman for the remainder of your life is going to be a negative for your enjoyment in life.
That clip or commentary on what that Lila woman said was all over X for the last few days.
I've corrected you about this now two times at least here, and probably three. Knock it off. I never said that, so stop saying that, as at this point you are either lying or being lazy, effectively the same thing.
And your basis to have any real knowledge of me or what I would or wouldn't enjoy is minimal at best. Yet you continue to tell me how much more you know about me than what I know. Cut the crap, Wutang.
How closely do your posts resemble your actual thoughts? If you actually have been expressing your real thoughts through out your posting history in this community and not just engaging in some sort of trolling campaign, then I think it's pretty reasonable to assume from your posts that 1) your long-term and still unrealized goal is to go outside of the west to a more culturally conservative and economically disadvantaged country to look for a young, virgin wife and 2) you don't find women to be interesting to be around outside of their beauty and youth.
We all need time off from the lunacy that is the modern world / life and that includes being married. Video games sometimes are fun and ok if you can support yourself.
Since when do we encourage men to seek happiness? Sounds like effeminate modern advice. The goal should be to find fulfilment and purpose. Many men find that by being in a relationship with a woman and raising a family, even if it involves putting up with annoying or boring conversations from time to time. One might find red pilled conversations online to be more intellectually interesting but it's kind of gay to choose that over a heterosexual relationship, whatever the grating personality traits of modern women.
Guys like Blade Runner and I when we talk about the negatives of women we are referring to the 99.9% of women that are modern women. Obviously the 0.1% of women that are traditional women are a completely different kettle of fish. A young and beautiful virgin woman is intoxicating to spend time with. But even then a man still needs his hobbies and male friends. Its an unhealthy aspect of modern society that couples are supposed to spend all of their free time together. Yes you need to spend time with your wife but you shouldn't be glued to her either as its unhealthy for the relationship.
A very good summary of giving women the right to vote.
An example of this would be someone like Thomas More who actually has been married in the past and is now a widower. He said that there's a something about women that can be annoying and difficult but he still ultimately found it fulfilling to be around his wife when they were married. He's the example of a guy who is willing to put with the annoyances of being married because for him there's still a large purpose to being in a marriage with a woman.
The guys I'm talking about on the other hand seem to actively be repulsed by female nature out of their physical/sexual/feminine (whether it be modern or traditional women) and my suggestion is that even being married to the feminine 0.1% traditional perfect women would eventually drive them mad. In this case it's not a matter of putting up with some silly conversations about how their day was every now and then such as about what show they just saw on Netflix but a life time of being bored, bothered, and broken by her. When I saw Blade Runner write about how boring it would be to be on a date with woman where she's just going to talk about what she's watching on Netflix I thought "That's exactly what all your conversations is going to feel like with your once virgin once hot wife". The type of women these guys are seeking are ones that aren't going to university or starting a career and will be mostly domestic - these are the exact type of women that are going to be watching daytime TV at home all day and their knowledge and awareness of the world is going to be more limited so they aren't going to have much to talk about except TV shows, pop music, gossip, etc.
I think I found the perfect bridge between what @Blade Runner is saying v. @Wutang . I have consumed so much red pill material that I don't often find things too shocking or revealing. And I have long said I am not the biggest Nick Fuentes fan. But what he says here hit me very hard and really opened my mind to what my views are and I think it will bridge what these two posters are trying to say to each other.
There is cursing in this response, don't listen to it at a place where others can overhear it. Start at the 2:02:30 mark to hear Nick's opinion on marriage in the modern day.
Modern Marriage
To sum it up, in case this video gets taken down...
The modern world is very different from the 1950's, so the plan of just getting married and not being very conscious about it is a huge mistake. You have to learn how to control your wife or she will run the household into the ground and make you miserable and destroy your life. Your wife is your wife, and not your best friend, meaning time with her should be for child rearing, intimacy, and day to day chores, but don't look to her to be your best friend because she will drag you down as women are not mentally compatible with men on this level. They are mostly boring, into low IQ things like gossip, reality TV or make-up type stuff whereas men need to be socializing on other things, like politics, and life choices, and bigger concerns.
There is cursing in this response, don't listen to it at a place where others can overhear it. Start at the 2:02:30 mark to hear Nick's opinion on marriage in the modern day.
Modern Marriage
To sum it up, in case this video gets taken down...
The modern world is very different from the 1950's, so the plan of just getting married and not being very conscious about it is a huge mistake. You have to learn how to control your wife or she will run the household into the ground and make you miserable and destroy your life. Your wife is your wife, and not your best friend, meaning time with her should be for child rearing, intimacy, and day to day chores, but don't look to her to be your best friend because she will drag you down as women are not mentally compatible with men on this level. They are mostly boring, into low IQ things like gossip, reality TV or make-up type stuff whereas men need to be socializing on other things, like politics, and life choices, and bigger concerns.
Think of it: you have to actually tell this to other men on this forum.
That's the imbalance I've been talking about. It has even debased our minds, the minds of the "red pill" to an extent. Sad. That's why I post to defend what we're saying.
Yes, overall it's not that hard to understand. Don't take all of this so seriously in terms of projecting on others how you might process it. It's not like I wake up every day and am mad at the world. I'm quite grateful and still enjoy a ton about it. But to ignore what I know, and how much my country has changed, how families have changed, how women have changed and actively act like it doesn't exist - or worse, lie about it - is NOT going to be something that I ever do.
Another reminder that in my posts I haven't been referring to modern Western women. Instead I have been referring to the ideal 10/10 non Western virgin traditional homemaker woman who hasn't been to university and doesn't have a career ie. The 0.1% women AS is referring to in his previous post. I agree that a lot of modern women aren't suitable for marriage. What I am suggesting is that the guys who regularly post in this thread would be still unhappy even with if they were married to traditional non-modern women.
Fuentes being brought up here actually helps prove my point. He's an example of someone who is actively repulsed by women and their behaviors, mannerism, way of thinking (this all might be due to him being a homo but let's put that aside for a moment) and hence has avoided being married despite claiming to be a trad Catholic who supports Catholic social teachings which informs Catholics that the default mode of life for them is to get married and bear children. Can you imagine someone like Fuentes being happily married and enjoying having a woman living with him? If you find yourself thinking like Fuentes in this manner then it makes sense to me that you would also benefit from doing what he's done and actively avoid being around women as much as possible (again I am putting aside the assumption that he might be gay).
Fuentes being brought up here actually helps prove my point. He's an example of someone who is actively repulsed by women and their behaviors, mannerism, way of thinking (this all might be due to him being a homo but let's put that aside for a moment) and hence has avoided being married despite claiming to be a trad Catholic who supports Catholic social teachings which informs Catholics that the default mode of life for them is to get married and bear children. Can you imagine someone like Fuentes being happily married and enjoying having a woman living with him? If you find yourself thinking like Fuentes in this manner then it makes sense to me that you would also benefit from doing what he's done and actively avoid being around women as much as possible (again I am putting aside the assumption that he might be gay).
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Welcome aboard. I think you're missing some context of this conversation (scroll back a few pages to get the gist of it), though in any case I hope to read your second post before 2027!
I think that these conclusions are worth considering.
For the readers, I will add a few points. These related issues have applied or continue to apply to me to some extent.
(1) First, it's easy to understand why many people these days are so dissatisfied with their relationships or lack thereof. Every day, men and women can SEE what they desire, IMAGINE what it would feel like, but cannot EXPERIENCE the real thing.
Individuals are now constantly exposed to what has happened and what is happening around the entire world with practically infinite amounts of information, entertainment, news, social media, pørn, dating apps, etc. This contributes to lowered life satisfaction due to FOMO and envy, reduced self-worth following unfavourable comparison to others, lowered contentment with present reality given the apparant availability of other options, etc.
So, the ongoing experience of facing easily-elicited desires that remain perpetually unsatisfied is now the norm for most humans.
Example source:
(2) Second, online platforms enable complaints to be expressed indefinitely, far beyond the extent that would be tolerated in off-line relationships. This gives rise to incessant 'help-rejecting complaining', a concept outlined by Eric Berne in 1964:
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A short video explainer:
In the online context, it's probable that such cases are linked to personality traits such as cynicism and introversion; lingering frustration and disappointment due to unfulfilled desires; and/or, a wanting to express these feelings and thoughts in a place that offers reassurance and support, rather than invalidation or challenges.
(3) Last, people are best served when they can recognise the trap of cognitive fallacies, with the biggest one being: believing one's own BS.
The hardest red pill to swallow is largely not an uncomfortable truth about women, the dating market, politicians, the satanic elite, the
, or any other perceptions of the external world. Rather, the most bitter pill is accepting the uncomfortable reflection of ourselves. Gazing into the mirror without flinching or defensiveness, over and over again, is extremely challenging. Yet, it is in these daily moments, not just the big ones, when we grow the most over time. Modern women tend to be allergic to this concept.
Relating to point #1 above, here's a very seducing yet utterly dysfunctional belief that is relevant to the wider themes of this thread:
-> "I deserve what I desire, and I need what I desire" <-
This is HIGHLY applicable to the modern woman, especially those who are on 3 social media platforms and 4 dating apps. Nonetheless, men are not immune to this problem.
See below for a related video (10 minutes). I recommend this to everyone, and it's of particular relevance for anyone seeking a mate who must be highly desirable across multiple areas. As an example, for conservative men aged 30+ this could reflect the desire for a woman who is: a virgin AND very beautiful AND under 25 AND goes to church weekly AND is unvaxxed (etc).
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You are correct, whether the woman comes from the USA and is into career or reality TV, or comes from the third world and is interested in cooking and groceries, either way, it isn't going to be of much interest to most men.
That is where there needs to be a break and two separate worlds between the two, so you are not annoying each other with lack of interest. She isn't going to be interested in what you are interested in a lot of times and vice versa. There will be activities where they overlap. This disconnect is natural and normal. Men thinking they have to spend all their time with their wife or doing what their wife tells them, often end up miserable and with her running the show.
I never thought of it on that level, I have never been in a relationship and had to face these issues, so they are foreign to me. But I know going shopping or watching the next reality TV show with my future wife doesn't sound like much fun, and I wouldn't expect her to go do the manly things I would be interested in, though she is welcome if she wants to go.
It's actually the other way around, women are repulsed by men. That's literally the problem. Not sure how you don't know that.
Fuentes doesn't really have any strengths that appeal to women. He's a one trick pony. He knows it and that's why he doesn't bother approaching women. The issue with guys like Fuentes is his only option is to enter a woman's frame. Essentially find a receptive woman and go with the flow. Be a dog at the dinner table. This is meant to be a transformative experience or a training exercise, as well as a cherry popper so a guy like Fuentes can level up some attributes. Basically, what you're advocating for with your "appreciation" of women being women.
The problem is women hate men and abuse them, and it comes out of left field. You don't really expect it from the women you're interested in but time after time it keeps happening. At such an advanced stage they're no longer your playmates. Your choices are a woman entering your frame through your effort, a woman seeing great social utility in you [pretty boy] and "volunteering" herself or using underhanded "tag 'em and bag 'em" loopholes for fleeting connections.
You approach women with your hand out and that hand is getting burned. Most men know this now and prefer a woman entering their frame to have a semblance of control. Most men are falling short of this goal. Women today are not interested and feel contempt for regular men holding basic frame. What's a man to do?