The Destruction of Modern Women

Legalizing prostitution honestly makes very little difference. Its already legal in many countries including Australia and many European countries and it hasn't stopped the thirst/simping epidemic.

In most first world countries the price of prostitution is prohibitive for the average man except as a very occasional indulgence. For example if you look on escort websites in Australia the entry level escorts (woman with 6/10 looks) will generally set you back at least the equivalent of $150 USD per hour. Then if you want the more attractive women (7s, 8s, 9s, etc) the price increases exponentially.
It’s stuff like this which makes me believe prostitution should be legal to counteract this. I know it’s “degenerate”, but this chick is gonna receive tons of matches. Why are men fine with all degeneracy which benefits women being legal but then if degeneracy leans in men’s direction we ban it? The fact is if prostitution was legal male thirst would decrease and this women’s SMV wouldn’t be as inflated. and no im not morally condoning prostitution, I’m pointing out the biased slanted laws.

And no I’m not “promoting sin”, I’m promoting balance.

Not only is promoting prostitution on a Christian forum shameful and sinful, but, it does anything but create balance. Quite the contrary, whoring destroys civilizations as it pools all the women into the hands of the wealthy men while the bottom 95% of men are unable to afford a decent looking wife.

When whoring is legal - stop calling it prostitution, that is simply feminist lies - then any woman who is a 6/10 and above will simply wait her turn to be bought by a rich man for an evening to make 10x as much as she could being married for a month. She only needs to whore herself out for a day or two per week and can live like a queen. Eventually, whore culture leads into harem culture, where women would rather be slaves for rich men instead of marry, and this creates de facto polygamy. From here culture will rapidly degenerate as we see in third-world Muslim crapholes.

Thus, this is why Australia Sucks points out that even a 6/10 whore is $150/h or more - because it is the rich men who buy them all up. For a millionaire, $150 for a night is nothing. Even $600 is like $1 to them. But not for ordinary men, it would actually be much cheaper to marry.

So if whoring is made legal, it INCREASES scarcity of women, and makes things even WORSE for men, which is why all countries where whoring is legal have it much worse for men than countries where whoring is banned.

All sin hurts men - do not delude yourselves into thinking otherwise. Whoring being among one of the worst of the worst, which is why "porn" (whoring online) is so destructive for men.
 
The truth that is going to be hard to hear is that what you are seeking is very difficult to find and if those are your standards and , then you have to be content with never marrying or having children and need to resign yourself to being part of the population decline process
Yes, I red pilled this post and liked some of the other ones because indeed, that is something one must deal with. Like everything in the world, change is part of things and we deal with these things as we go.
about how the majority of women today in Western society aren't suitable as wives and that it is our modern culture that has produced these sorts of women.
That's a fact, and as we've said, overseas became obvious that it's the only real option, because even in your mid 30s with a lot of attributes and money, few women care or are part of the social circle in the west. The other way traditional people say this is that the "good ones are gone."
especially the types of people we see pop in this thread a lot and have written tons of posts about how much they can't stand interacting with women, that the best solution for them is simply to check out of the dating game in the same way some of the black pilled politics posters have given up on voting and seeking a political solution and are instead just focusing on building up their own lives to survive the coming the storm.
Yes, yes, it's to inform and lead up to what I've said and what AS has also said ...
As far as I've seen on this forum, possessing this sort of knowledge hasn't done anything to improve their chances of getting the sort of women they want.
Yes it has, wait for it ...
Again this has already been discussed ad naseum on the forum. 90% of the men on the forum agree the solution is going overseas.
And there you are. What I've come to realize is that either you suffer as a narrative driven, largely disappointed married man who happens to have kids (guys on this forum largely won't accept that), or you realize that very few will have a decent life and procreate, and thus the small number of men who might do this will have to be in a different jurisdiction, at least for parts of the year.
would be basically get a new version of this thread only dedicated to the misery of marriage and being stuck around a woman and how to get her to stop being around so much just like the good old days.
That's been (married) man's lot for ... ever. Tell us something we don't know.

Sometimes you all who "get annoyed" with many of the threads around the forum don't realize that a) the truth exposes most things to be disappointing and a sham, which is why religion exists, and b) as a result a forum like this will produce many threads that are closer to complaining than extolling how great life is, otherwise solutions would be irrelevant, leading to c) you still feel the need to come on here and post as if your non-recommendation is helpful to the people seeking solutions.

Think of how silly it is to come on to threads and complain yourself about others you perceive to be complaining about how subpar things are. You are a witness against yourself in this foolishness, even if you are "right"! Ironic, isn't it.
 
When Wu-tang says some men don't reproduce that's accurate but irrelevant. The same way me not becoming a billionaire is only relevant if I have such an expectation. Men are experiencing a gap between expectation and reality. What we're trying to do is come to terms with this reality. Women didn't disappear, there's lots of them around. In fact, there are white women being housewives to foreigners and converting to Islam and doing all kinds of shit.

Reality isn't just the cards you were dealt; it's also the things you're doing and your expectations. I disagree with this pseudo-reality of merit-based existence being promoted "Your kind is meant to be single" while the vilest of men have some woman wiping his ass right now. Reminds me of these suicide chumps.

Learn from foreigners.

A white man kills himself because the future will only get worse. A foreigner in the same situation goes and stabs some people to make your life worse.

Make the best of a bad situation. Maybe it's impossible to get married. No problemo. What is possible? What can we settle for?
 
And there you are. What I've come to realize is that either you suffer as a narrative driven, largely disappointed married man who happens to have kids (guys on this forum largely won't accept that), or you realize that very few will have a decent life and procreate, and thus the small number of men who might do this will have to be in a different jurisdiction, at least for parts of the year.
I'm not married but if I was I'm sure you would instead say that I'm some boomer that already "got mine". I'm not sure how whether I am married (disappointed or otherwise) is relevant to the issue at hand. If this is supposed to be some sort of kill shot argument, then I'm here to inform you that your shot has completely missed.

I very much realize "that very few (men) will have a decent life and procreate". My last few posts was describing this in detail. I also suggested that given your personality and mentality and high standards that you are actually better off not being one of the few men who is going to get married and procreate. That's been my basic thesis in this conversation.

It seems like you've been advocating for going abroad to find yourself a 20 year old virgin wife for about the last 4-5 years without even taking the preliminary steps to do so. This is the male equivalent of the 35 year old woman who is just waiting for Mr. Right to show up as she inches closer to 40 without taking any action to meet him. Both the male and female in this scenario are using a future unrealized, hope as a cope for a some dissatisfaction in life. We make point out how silly is for Western women to think they can have it all and criticize mainstream culture to give these men false, unrealistic hopes but I see the exact same thing going on the male side with the red pill sphere making guys think they can wait until they are 40+ and easily find a young virgin wife if they just show up at some distant shore. We can see Australia Sucks has been trying this for years now with no real results. If he's having trouble I can only imagine you are going to have even more trouble given your standards are more strict since for you would want the girl to also be Orthodox and to be white while AS has no such expectations.
That's been (married) man's lot for ... ever. Tell us something we don't know.

You could say one of the benefits of modern culture is that there is no longer an expectation of marriage for men would rather just be grilling by themselves or buying/advocating for bitcoin. Guys like this can now MGTOW without the same social consequences that being a perpetual bachelor had in the past. For you this should be a great boon - for the first time in forever you no longer have to deal with this lot.
Sometimes you all who "get annoyed" with many of the threads around the forum don't realize that a) the truth exposes most things to be disappointing and a sham, which is why religion exists, and b) as a result a forum like this will produce many threads that are closer to complaining than extolling how great life is, otherwise solutions would be irrelevant, leading to c) you still feel the need to come on here and post as if your non-recommendation is helpful to the people seeking solutions.

Think of how silly it is to come on to threads and complain yourself about others you perceive to be complaining about how subpar things are. You are a witness against yourself in this foolishness, even if you are "right"! Ironic, isn't it.

If I see something that I think is worth criticizing and I have some criticism to offer, I'm going to offer it. That's the nature of forums. Your complaints remind me of the people on the flat earth thread getting upset when people had the audacity to come on their threads and point out why their arguments are off. If you don't want people to comment, feel free to dig out an old blog account and post your musings there with the comments disabled.

Also by the way, I have been offering a solution through out this conversation with the solution being to remain single. If the game is so rigged that you can't achieve what you want or if achieving what you want would actually leaving you worse off then before (which is what I'm suggesting would happen if you did actually get a 20 year old wife), then the best solution would be not to play. I noticed that you yourself have pretty much offered no solutions through out this thread except for a generic "go abroad" without actually talking about the logistics or gameplan of what a guy should do once they hop onto a plane. However, you do have many posts that are essentially data sheets about why dating is over in the West. If you are allowed to endlessly complain, then other people are as well.

I agree the truth has a tendency to expose the blue pill optimistic narratives and to realize we are going to be disappointed in life in someway. I am doing my part by being the messenger of a truth that I think you need to hear, namely one of the disappointments that you are going to have to bare is that you aren't going to find a 20 year old virgin wife and that even if you found her, you would still be disappointed. We can forgive women for being silly and not being able to realize harsh truths but what excuse would a red-pilled man like you have to offer for not being able to bare this truth?
 
Make the best of a bad situation. Maybe it's impossible to get married. No problemo. What is possible? What can we settle for?
One of the stark realities of the modern world became that the only thing "good" about women acting like men, and thus not being good for marriage any longer, was that at least it was relatively to bang them or convince them to do things no traditional woman would do. Given our forum and most of the people's beliefs here, though, that can't really be brought up - so guys like Wutang are forcing me to now.
I'm not married but if I was I'm sure you would instead say that I'm some boomer that already "got mine". I'm not sure how whether I am married (disappointed or otherwise) is relevant to the issue at hand.
Do you blame me for noticing that most of the posters that are married or were married, and have kids, suggest to just eat reality and essentially give up, or as you say (stay single) do nothing? Great. I don't buy it.
I also suggested that given your personality and mentality and high standards that you are actually better off not being one of the few men who is going to get married and procreate. That's been my basic thesis in this conversation.
You know very little about me, in reality.
It seems like you've been advocating for going abroad to find yourself a 20 year old virgin wife
I'm not against that, but again, I haven't stated that once. Beyond that, I've corrected you and others in saying that at least 3 times. At least let's stop being lazy and saying others are saying things that they are not saying.
We make point out how silly is for Western women to think they can have it all and criticize mainstream culture to give these men false, unrealistic hopes but I see the exact same thing going on the male side with the red pill sphere making guys think they can wait until they are 40+ and easily find a young virgin wife if they just show up at some distant shore.
I've been clear on this. I think at least 60% of men have little to no shot. Whether you believe me or not, I'm not in that group. Odds are you'll never really know. But humor me, as it is irrelevant to accuse others of being average for the sake of argument. I've stated time and again the arguments about how bad women are boil down far more (in the age of major surpluses of average to bad men, difficulty with jobs, single mom households, etc) to them not even being anywhere near as young or in good of shape to get the men they desire. I've estimated the upper 20% of men outnumber above average women, effectively, by at least 10-fold. That's the issue. You think a guy who is 35 and has major experience, wisdom, stacks, etc is going to marry or LTR seriously a 30-40 year old woman, the equivalent of a male bum? Come on now. And I've even said I'd go as old as 31, but that'd have to be a hit I'd take because she had great genes and was smart, like some older Russian smokeshow might have. Another rarity, of course.
If you don't want people to comment, feel free to dig out an old blog account and post your musings there with the comments disabled.
I don't block people, or censor, as I don't believe in that. I can ask questions why people come and do what they claim is bothering them, though.
Also by the way, I have been offering a solution through out this conversation with the solution being to remain single.
"Do nothing" isn't a solution. Questionably, do nothing but bang "easy" women might be. Back to the top of this post ...
 
Your right - I don't know you in real life so I can only go by your posts on this forum and based on your many posts about how irritating the nature of women drive you and how you find them to be generally uninteresting I think it is very reasonable to assume you would not be happy in marriage.

As for the 20 year old marriage thing, I'm surprised you are denying ever talking about your deep desire for one of them as a wife. Anyone can look at your post history and see the topic of female beauty, virginity, and youth is something you bring up over and over again and not just in this thread but multiple other threads, especially any to do with society. The bitcoin thread is probably the only one thread that you completely steer away from speaking about hot, young female virgins.

No one has suggested that you should suck it up and marry women that you deem to be too old or not attractive though. To go back to my original point, you could just remain single. Actually I don't even have to suggest "do nothing" as a suggestion any longer since it seems based on the lack of progress you've met in executing any sort of overseas wife hunting voyage you've made in 4+ years of constantly talking about it on both this and previous iteration of the forum, it seems like you are content to go for the "do nothing" strategy. If you do actually pull the trigger and move forward with your plans I will eat crow but given how there's been zero progress in this department but more of the same points about how horrible the dating market is in the west, I'm assuming we will check back 3 years from and the situation isn't going to have changed.
 
Actually I don't even have to suggest "do nothing" as a suggestion any longer since it seems based on the lack of progress you've met in executing any sort of overseas wife hunting voyage you've made in 4+ years of constantly talking about it on both this and previous iteration of the forum, it seems like you are content to go for the "do nothing" strategy. If you do actually pull the trigger and move forward with your plans I will eat crow but given how there's been zero progress in this department but more of the same points about how horrible the dating market is in the west, I'm assuming we will check back 3 years from and the situation isn't going to have changed.
It’s a long term game and there is a process to this.
Step 1: get wealthy.
Step 2: move overseas and search for a virgin wife.

You cannot skip to step 2 until you have completed step 1. This has already been discussed at length in various threads. Moving overseas with no money is not a recipe for success. Many guys on the forum are making progress on step 1. It it’s not compete yet hence the appearance of inaction (but beneath the surface progress towards marrying a virgin is being made).
 
Eventually, whore culture leads into harem culture, where women would rather be slaves for rich men instead of marry, and this creates de facto polygamy. From here culture will rapidly degenerate as we see in third-world Muslim crapholes.
Going back to this, are you implying in America this doesn’t occur? What about Donald Trump banging all the hot models over the years? Was it because he was some attractive chad or was it because he was rich and powerful?

Or take this example of the Raiders owner, is his gf a whore or is the owner correct and she’s with him for his “smile”?
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Going back to this, are you implying in America this doesn’t occur? What about Donald Trump banging all the hot models over the years? Was it because he was some attractive chad or was it because he was rich and powerful?

Or take this example of the Raiders owner, is his gf a whore or is the owner correct and she’s with him for his “smile”?
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It’s a long term game and there is a process to this.
Step 1: get wealthy.
Step 2: move overseas and search for a virgin wife.

You cannot skip to step 2 until you have completed step 1. This has already been discussed at length in various threads. Moving overseas with no money is not a recipe for success. Many guys on the forum are making progress on step 1. It it’s not compete yet hence the appearance of inaction (but beneath the surface progress towards marrying a virgin is being made).
I agree your plan is probably better, but I skipped step one and step 2 just kind of happened naturally due to proximity, common life direction.
For me, searching implies a certain lack. Much better to be doing your thing, actively living life and then meet someone along they way who's going the same direction and there is mutual attraction.
 
It’s a long term game and there is a process to this.
Step 1: get wealthy.
Step 2: move overseas and search for a virgin wife.

You cannot skip to step 2 until you have completed step 1. This has already been discussed at length in various threads. Moving overseas with no money is not a recipe for success. Many guys on the forum are making progress on step 1. It it’s not compete yet hence the appearance of inaction (but beneath the surface progress towards marrying a virgin is being made).

As long as you work remotely you don't need to be that wealthy. I'm overseas right now and it's a game changer. I'll post more in the "finding a wife abroad thread" soon. But realistically you want to move ASAP.
 
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