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Quick question. Why should I care?
Quick question. Why should I care?
The Destruction of Modern Women
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Same....don't care
In my experience most CEOs are morons. Literally if you pick a random low level employee from most companies they could run the operation better than the current CEO. By the way I am just talking about professional CEOs rather than founders which are a different beast entirely.
The real question is this deliberate or is it an unintentional bias created by the system? I mean unintentional bias in the sense that an employee generally has to have the right connections but also to keep kissing the right peoples asses for years or decades on end to become a CEO. Nobody with self respect or integrity would become a spineless ass licker like that.
Shaquilleoatmeal
Protestant
Bitch you are 213 pounds (almost 97 kilograms!!) and you have two kids. Just be grateful if there is any man out there who would want you. You have no business demanding a man to wife you up pay for everything.
Shaquilleoatmeal
Protestant
It’s stuff like this which makes me believe prostitution should be legal to counteract this. I know it’s “degenerate”, but this chick is gonna receive tons of matches. Why are men fine with all degeneracy which benefits women being legal but then if degeneracy leans in men’s direction we ban it? The fact is if prostitution was legal male thirst would decrease and this women’s SMV wouldn’t be as inflated. and no im not morally condoning prostitution, I’m pointing out the biased slanted laws.
And no I’m not “promoting sin”, I’m promoting balance.
Nothing has the right to stick out of your nose. It's disgusting.
Calisto
Catholic
something similar happens if you get a remote job and stay all day at home, not showing that you have to get out and do stuff
Legalizing prostitution honestly makes very little difference. Its already legal in many countries including Australia and many European countries and it hasn't stopped the thirst/simping epidemic.
In most first world countries the price of prostitution is prohibitive for the average man except as a very occasional indulgence. For example if you look on escort websites in Australia the entry level escorts (woman with 6/10 looks) will generally set you back at least the equivalent of $150 USD per hour. Then if you want the more attractive women (7s, 8s, 9s, etc) the price increases exponentially.
Shaquilleoatmeal
Protestant
$150 for a 6/10 is nothing compared to the effort for banging a 4-5/10 woman (which involves sifting through rejections from mediocre women.) I can’t imagine how simping would not decrease.
Then again I’m on this forum and red/black pilled so I’m not some desperate simp. I guess most men are just super desperate for even sub par women.
Shaquilleoatmeal
Protestant
How often do you speak with fellow men regarding this issue? (Both women and prostitution)
Legality makes a difference. Lot of men are awkward around prostitutes. Beta programming is a factor. Brain is not wired for engaging in sexual encounters with attractive women. Same issue with pornography, a lot of men have performance anxiety and are camera shy.
There’s ease of use. They shut down backpage forcing people, I’m not even sure where. Escort review forums? You can go buy a street prostitute at night or find a brothel through word of mouth. Both pretty psychotic options for a lonely man. Why would I want to go into some unknown dark alley to have “fun” with god knows who?
Then if you do end up going through it there’s all kinds of problems. Overpriced, time limits, scams, bad attitude, etc.
This is why brothels focus on “customer service”. They claim to at least. The girls are lazy and insane, men running it are scum.
I feel this is important to understand, not because you should buy prostitutes, but knowing that men today suffer from an accessibility problem with women.
Prostitutes being accessible would motivate you to see one. Visible, cheap, being able to have small talk with ones in the neighborhood. In the west it’s also shameful to be in public accompanied by a visible whore.
This extends to women in general and women have been exacerbating the problem. For at least 30 years now women have been shutting down flirting attempts from beta males. God help you if you say something sexual to a woman who thinks you’re a beta/simp.
Women also don’t seem financially reliant on men. Just like a prostitute, a big chunk of our normal interactions with women come down to her needing a real life simp/sponsor. They make themselves available and put on a show they think will entice you. The way a woman tries to trap you say a lot about you. If woman tries to make you feel sorry for her then that usually means you have rock bottom SMV.
Long story short, women are the initiating sex. Men don’t seem to do anything unless they’re sent an invitation or get a warm reception. Call it what you want, choosing signals, etc.
This has dried up. The access to women that is. Men have picked up on this and are transferring their sexual energy towards porn, only fans and online dating.
Not very often. But when the discussion does occur the feedback I get is that most normal men don't want to be with a prostitute even if they could afford it because it doesn't give the same emotional satisfaction or validation of being with a regular woman. Although to be honest these days there isn't all that much difference between a typical modern woman and a prostitute. Personally I have never been interested in prostitutes not really my thing but I understand why it appeals to some men.
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I am just saying that on the ground the western countries where prostitutes are legal still seem to have the same level of simping and male thirst as countries where prostitution is illegal. It doesn't seem to have moved the needle all that much. Maybe if prostitutes were super affordable it would be a different story. For example if an entry level (6/10) prostitute costs $150 - $200 USD per hour and a man visits her for 2 hours per week that is at least $15,000 - $20,000 USD per year. That is not affordable for the average man. It might be affordable for a top 20% earner but its not affordable for the bottom 80% of men on a consistent basis.
It's odd that the topic is so gauche but as sandalwood eventually gets at, the reason why it's so bad is that women have become entities that are not serious (they bypass any young ages and value to give a man as a trade for lifetime commitment), fairly uninterested in doing general work, not wanting to have very many children, and certainly not doing much overall for the degree of material enhancement they desire. The reason why this is so important is that as a result of all of these things, men don't see women as anything but possibly a lay, and even then the other circumstances surrounding that lay are either so annoying, time consuming, or difficult, most of the time it isn't even worth that. That's how far gone and imbalanced we are. The problem becomes for quite a few people that with the population boom, there are tons of people that are average, which means not good looking and generally fat at this point, so appealing to them is not going to be ideal because you don't want to be mean to them. "There aren't many quality women" will be countered with "I know this girl" who is probably nice but either fat, not young anymore, or not worth the overall effort in comparison with historical standards and the idea of marriage and all its commitment and time/attention consumption.
As above, the rational actors then started using the modern day (which yes, further made the culture worse) as high volume attempts at just sex, because women were doing their own thing and didn't really do anything for your life but sate, or a time, the testosterone/sex drive. This slowly turned, more and more, into polygamy as women would then use tech to seek out those few times they are actually "horny" and men increasingly got denied and thus simped greater, since there are so many men.
I've talked about this a lot. You have a situation where average to even high quality men can go YEARS without getting laid. How's that going to turn out for most of men, women and society? Not good. I've always seen online as just a tech version of the spectrum of sugaring in the modern day (they want time, dinners, attention) so I never understood why guys just didn't go straight to sugar. The women are just making you wait but are still putting out, so it's not like you're getting married or aren't going for sex - it's just this socially acceptable "dating" which is somehow different than "sugaring" = just paying with the understanding that sex is coming.
It's so broken, and the state so broken with its laws, I don't see a turnaround until population decline or monetary collapse, and restart.
And Sandalwood gets at another truth: when women needed men, they would make plays for men for commitment, or the family would, and good men would be heavily sought after. This almost never happens now. It's all inversion. With far too many men, and too many average to lower quality men, simping is high and men chase women. Women don't think they need men, rather careers and fun, for their value years. This ends badly, as we see tons of men from 35-50 right now with major success, net worth, even height, etc with no reason to get married especially if they aren't socially allowed to marry 20 year old women.
Women are absolutely clueless how disappointed they'll be in their 30s without similar friends, families, kids, etc. If they did have a clue, we wouldn't see this childless epidemic coming. Which proves the point that the culture must force them, or push them, or restrict them, however you want to say it, to pursue early family formation. Of course, this is in general, as of course there will be women that choose against it, or are ugly, or are fat. It's always been that way. But it hasn't been this way that 50-60% will be without kids and a husband, and act like they don't know why or are confused that men don't want 35-45 year old women.