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The Corrupt Courts of America
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More useless talk from the president. Judges bad! Unfair!
Elon should take away his X access so he starts working.
You seriously have no idea how politics work, and you would make a terrible leader. The public must be persuaded so action can be taken. You should be taking notes from Trump, not criticizing him.
Once more, Trump is showing that he is a better marketer than executive. We already know the judges are bad. That's why we voted for him. He is wasting time reminding us why we voted for him. All talk, no action. Whenever he talks and argues these points that none of his base is even disputing, he is really giving himself a cover for why he is not getting the job done.
ACTA NON VERBA.
Thank God for Elon. But they are not enough. The Church at lower level needs to start speaking out. The change will not come from the top.
Trumps attorneys are better on the Boasberg trial. Even though they are arguing semantics. They say when the judge said removed. It meant displacing someone. And the people on the planes were already displaced. They also say the planes when outside international waters are subject to a different potestas of Trump. Not on the alien act. Still all of this is shit. Because a really good lawyer will focus on proceedings. Only amateurs focus on substance. And will give a 200 pages defence.
It´s going to Supreme Court now which will be fun.
The judge is compromised. It´s not only his daughter. His daughter. His wife. His sister. Are all in NGOS connected. Why are all NGO´s filth. Don´t people have more focus. Than gang members?
He is 100% conflicted. And giving a terrible image of US courts. Uxorem Caesaris tam suspicione quam crimine carere oportet.
Raise politicians salaries. Raise judges salaries. It´s a matter of incentives.
Thank God for Elon. But they are not enough. The Church at lower level needs to start speaking out. The change will not come from the top.
Trumps attorneys are better on the Boasberg trial. Even though they are arguing semantics. They say when the judge said removed. It meant displacing someone. And the people on the planes were already displaced. They also say the planes when outside international waters are subject to a different potestas of Trump. Not on the alien act. Still all of this is shit. Because a really good lawyer will focus on proceedings. Only amateurs focus on substance. And will give a 200 pages defence.
It´s going to Supreme Court now which will be fun.
The judge is compromised. It´s not only his daughter. His daughter. His wife. His sister. Are all in NGOS connected. Why are all NGO´s filth. Don´t people have more focus. Than gang members?
He is 100% conflicted. And giving a terrible image of US courts. Uxorem Caesaris tam suspicione quam crimine carere oportet.
Raise politicians salaries. Raise judges salaries. It´s a matter of incentives.
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Moot point, the public has already been persuaded. Fortune favors the brave, not the cowardly. You issue a warrant for this judges arrest for treason (along with his entire jew family who are on the USAID NGO take), drag his ass out of his house in the middle of the night with a no knock warrant with select media in tow and let all hell break loose. Then let the chips fall where they may. You've gotta cause a scene, this going along to get along and all talk no action politics is not working.
The reason this is not happening is because Trump is controlled by jews. Trump is a loyalty freak with a deep spirit for revenge. The fact that he is not locking up not one of his political enemies who illegally tried to put him in jail when he literally has nothing to lose (at the end of his life, can't be reelected, has personal wealth beyond measure, etc.), proves that he is not operating out of sincerity and good faith but is instead playing a game of "I hope the jews continue to love me so they don't whack me and my family like they did JFK."
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I wish this was true, but the reality is huge amounts of the milquetoast Republican party needs persuading and reassuring, and this is to galvanize Congress to act.
Most Republicans in Congress are extremely risk averse, and fundamentally it is up to them to reign in the Judges, so Trump is galvanizing the public to put pressure on Congress and get them to impeach or redistrict the judiciary.
That's the thing though.
The public was persuaded. Trump won the popular vote.
So why is he trying so hard to change people's minds here and stepping so gently?
The answer is quite simple. They are going to do things that will left never imagined we would dare, and so he's taking advantage of every bit of irrational, childish, tantrum throwing publicity they send him, because the more people see this, the more they wake up.
We have an opportunity here to change minds, we have mountains of evidence that the left and the media have gone insane, so use it. Obviously only in the correct places, but posting the right things on social media, very specifically stuff that is going to convince centrists is necessary.
Don't worry about the Jewish question. As Jesus said, feed them milk as they are not yet ready for wine.
Besides, I think the Zoomers may have that one handled.
I now realize that there is one branch in the US Government that checks and balances have almost no effect on: The Juidiciary!
A supermajority in the senate appears to be what's needed to remove Judges from office, and that's damn near impossible.
The left knows this and this will be their play
A supermajority in the senate appears to be what's needed to remove Judges from office, and that's damn near impossible.
The left knows this and this will be their play
There is very little you can encounter in life which is more difficult to deal with than a judge on a self indulging power trip.
Cobra nice to see you posting, you've always had well written level headed comments.
Always has been. They’ve been using the courts to invalidate the popular will for well over a century. They’ve forced immigrants, racial integration, interracial marriage, pornography, homosexuals, abortion (and much more!) down American throats for generations. You think anyone voted for that? Of course not. They explicitly voted against it, in convincing numbers, and the courts usurped the authority of the electorate each time they did.
Elections exist to make people believe they have a choice. Courts exist to ensure the people make the right choice. There are no such things as checks and balances, that is part of a theoretical framework that doesn’t exist in our reality. There are back-rubs, bullets, and blackmail.
So it seems the judge said Trump could invoke the Aliens act. And it was a valid proclamation.
But even within the powers of the proclamation the aliens should still have the right to ask to voluntarily deport or for a due process.
"Summary deportation following close on the heels of the Government’s informing an alien that he is subject to the Proclamation — without giving him the opportunity to consider whether to voluntarily self-deport or challenge the basis for the order — is unlawful,"
I think above the technicalities Trump administration is doing the right steps to secure their country. Unfortunately it´s Trump usual erratic, chaotic and confusing manner.
The judge was appointed by Bush. And he probably have strong views against terrorism.
But even within the powers of the proclamation the aliens should still have the right to ask to voluntarily deport or for a due process.
"Summary deportation following close on the heels of the Government’s informing an alien that he is subject to the Proclamation — without giving him the opportunity to consider whether to voluntarily self-deport or challenge the basis for the order — is unlawful,"
I think above the technicalities Trump administration is doing the right steps to secure their country. Unfortunately it´s Trump usual erratic, chaotic and confusing manner.
The judge was appointed by Bush. And he probably have strong views against terrorism.
I´m not an expert. Nowadays I like more cement than legal shit.
The MSM is lying (nothing new here). The judge did not block the proclamation act. Or even said it was invalid. He said even with the proclamation act and within it´s limits. Any individual can still have the right to challenge a wrongful detention. Which seems pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain.
I had read the replies by Trump administration in the lawsuit. Which were all toilet paper. They are really stupid. Cause it made uou believe the judge was challenging the APA. Incredible how superficial and amateur they read. A first year law student would´ve done better.
If you allow any government to detain and deport a person without any due process. It means anyone can be deported. This is not only for venezuelans. Any person can be deported. If there´s a lack of judicial review. A citizen can be deported. A US citizen can be deported. If there´s a "mistake" made by an ICE officer. Voluntary mistakes can happen.
Habeas Corpus for illegal detentions exists since at least 1215 with Magna Carta.
ICE comes into your house. Puts you on a plane and takes you to El Salvador. What will you do? Your gone. You a US citizen. You think this cannot be abused? Looooll. This cannot be used against political enemies. Of course it can. If you can´t challenge the ICE decision. What´s the difference between you and a venezuelan? You are a US citizen. Sure. But you can´t prove it. It might be a stretch but this gives a taste of corona again. When people are forced without any legal grounds. Or Bush Patriot act. Yeah Bush patriot act.
Anyone can be deported. If there´s a "mistake" in proceedings. And no judicial review. Anyone. Who can verify the mistakes made by the administration? No one. Loooll. You don´t know the incompetents who work in government? You wanna give this power to that useless garbage?
"To be sure, the fact that a detained person might in fact be a U.S. citizen was front andcenter for some courts. See, e.g., Banning, 255 F. at 160; Gilroy, 257 F. at 119–24."
Says the judge.
US citizens can wrongfully be deported without any remedy. Your passport is toilet paper. One ICE officer to another: I don´t know Murray this venezuelan speaks good english. The detainee: But I´m american. Sure sure Pablo. Off the bus you go.
If there´s no judicial review or due process. Even in war there´s procedures. To think the government can deport any person without judicial review is pure madness. This is pre magna carta. It´s equal or worse than chinese black jails.
"to evaluate whether an alien falls within the terms of the Act is therefore well established." writes the judge.
That´s why I said in the beginning. ACLU is not only defending venezuelans.
If Trump wants to deport venezuelans. He can probably just make the proclamation without mentioning Trem de Agua. And then he can deport any venezuelan he wants. But first he needs to give a deadline for them to leave. It´s even in the APA. The alien must first be given the possibility to leave by itself.
Judges cannot review the validity of the proclamation. It seems. Which to me is 100% wrong. Trem de Agua a nation???? But they can evaluate if a person is subject to it or not. This as been the case since 1215. And I doubt the Supreme Court will decide differently.
The small judge was right deciding that plaintiffs needed to be heard by court to see if they fit the definition of the APA. But ruling nationwide? Who does he think he is? all biggie?
The judge should have limited the injunction to people who were challenging their deportation. Not to the entire plane. Or making nationwide rules. It´s completely unbalanced. Nationwide rules should be limited to supreme courts. I don´t understand how can small judges do this. In continental law only higher courts can make this nationwide rulings. And even if its nationwide. It can be limited by it´s effects (ex tunc). It´s crazy to have small judges making rullings at this level. If another judge has a different opinion miles away he is bound by the small judge??????Loooll F pirates. Always with their crazy shit law. Incredible.
Justice Clarence Thomas has written that nationwide injunctions "emerg[ed] for the first time in the 1960s and dramatically increas[ed] in popularity only very recently." So the idea a small judge can rule an entire nation appeared in the 60´s. Nothing new here also. America couldn´t have become a superpower if a insignificant judge could rule the entire nation. Trump should petition for the supreme to revoke this completely retarded power. A small judge does not rule nationwide against the president. For such an action to exist it must be done by a equal power. Supreme court. Supreme court can check and balance the president. Not a small judge.
Trump should secure the border. That´s a thought. Like EU should secure their border also.
People in a hurry to build a guillotine. Should look at how it´s inventor ended.
The MSM is lying (nothing new here). The judge did not block the proclamation act. Or even said it was invalid. He said even with the proclamation act and within it´s limits. Any individual can still have the right to challenge a wrongful detention. Which seems pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain.
I had read the replies by Trump administration in the lawsuit. Which were all toilet paper. They are really stupid. Cause it made uou believe the judge was challenging the APA. Incredible how superficial and amateur they read. A first year law student would´ve done better.
If you allow any government to detain and deport a person without any due process. It means anyone can be deported. This is not only for venezuelans. Any person can be deported. If there´s a lack of judicial review. A citizen can be deported. A US citizen can be deported. If there´s a "mistake" made by an ICE officer. Voluntary mistakes can happen.
Habeas Corpus for illegal detentions exists since at least 1215 with Magna Carta.
ICE comes into your house. Puts you on a plane and takes you to El Salvador. What will you do? Your gone. You a US citizen. You think this cannot be abused? Looooll. This cannot be used against political enemies. Of course it can. If you can´t challenge the ICE decision. What´s the difference between you and a venezuelan? You are a US citizen. Sure. But you can´t prove it. It might be a stretch but this gives a taste of corona again. When people are forced without any legal grounds. Or Bush Patriot act. Yeah Bush patriot act.
Anyone can be deported. If there´s a "mistake" in proceedings. And no judicial review. Anyone. Who can verify the mistakes made by the administration? No one. Loooll. You don´t know the incompetents who work in government? You wanna give this power to that useless garbage?
"To be sure, the fact that a detained person might in fact be a U.S. citizen was front andcenter for some courts. See, e.g., Banning, 255 F. at 160; Gilroy, 257 F. at 119–24."
Says the judge.
US citizens can wrongfully be deported without any remedy. Your passport is toilet paper. One ICE officer to another: I don´t know Murray this venezuelan speaks good english. The detainee: But I´m american. Sure sure Pablo. Off the bus you go.
If there´s no judicial review or due process. Even in war there´s procedures. To think the government can deport any person without judicial review is pure madness. This is pre magna carta. It´s equal or worse than chinese black jails.
"to evaluate whether an alien falls within the terms of the Act is therefore well established." writes the judge.
That´s why I said in the beginning. ACLU is not only defending venezuelans.
If Trump wants to deport venezuelans. He can probably just make the proclamation without mentioning Trem de Agua. And then he can deport any venezuelan he wants. But first he needs to give a deadline for them to leave. It´s even in the APA. The alien must first be given the possibility to leave by itself.
Judges cannot review the validity of the proclamation. It seems. Which to me is 100% wrong. Trem de Agua a nation???? But they can evaluate if a person is subject to it or not. This as been the case since 1215. And I doubt the Supreme Court will decide differently.
The small judge was right deciding that plaintiffs needed to be heard by court to see if they fit the definition of the APA. But ruling nationwide? Who does he think he is? all biggie?
The judge should have limited the injunction to people who were challenging their deportation. Not to the entire plane. Or making nationwide rules. It´s completely unbalanced. Nationwide rules should be limited to supreme courts. I don´t understand how can small judges do this. In continental law only higher courts can make this nationwide rulings. And even if its nationwide. It can be limited by it´s effects (ex tunc). It´s crazy to have small judges making rullings at this level. If another judge has a different opinion miles away he is bound by the small judge??????Loooll F pirates. Always with their crazy shit law. Incredible.
Justice Clarence Thomas has written that nationwide injunctions "emerg[ed] for the first time in the 1960s and dramatically increas[ed] in popularity only very recently." So the idea a small judge can rule an entire nation appeared in the 60´s. Nothing new here also. America couldn´t have become a superpower if a insignificant judge could rule the entire nation. Trump should petition for the supreme to revoke this completely retarded power. A small judge does not rule nationwide against the president. For such an action to exist it must be done by a equal power. Supreme court. Supreme court can check and balance the president. Not a small judge.
Trump should secure the border. That´s a thought. Like EU should secure their border also.
People in a hurry to build a guillotine. Should look at how it´s inventor ended.
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