The China Thread

You mean forever, or just right now? And why do you feel this way?

In the early 2000s they had some huge contract to build super fast magnetic levitating trains all over China...then in the end they only one they ever made was a very short one between Shanghai airport and Shanghai city center. You can read about it here:

 
In the early 2000s they had some huge contract to build super fast magnetic levitating trains all over China...then in the end they only one they ever made was a very short one between Shanghai airport and Shanghai city center. You can read about it here:

Thank you. Would you agree that China's technology is vastly improved since say 2005 and this is possible in the near future?
 
Thank you. Would you agree that China's technology is vastly improved since say 2005 and this is possible in the near future?

Improved yes, but not innovative.
To create a brand new technology that no other country has right now requires incredible innovative inventors.
China has always excelled at copying and vastly improving foreign made inventions, but they have no history inventing amazing brand new tech out of thin air.
 
While what you are saying is true to be fair you need to look at where they started from. 50 years ago most Chinese were on the borderline of starvation so from that perspective they have made huge progress but yes there is still a long way to go before the average Chinese citizen gets to anywhere near a western standard of living which is admittedly hard when you have a country with a population well over 1 billion.
They had nowhere to go but up from cannibalism, so Deng Xiao Peng made a deal that included the one-child policy (demographic suicide) so that Fortune 1000 multinational corps could use Chinese as slave labor in order to destroy the West.

Whom would you credit for that?
 
Asia is where starry eyed white liberals go to get traumatized. It's a fascinating phenomenon that no one wants to talk about. I definitely do.
Funny story, I've recently gone through the same thing from the other end of the aisle. I've long been "right-wing" and you could say a race realist for even longer than that. My first trip to Taipei was short and so sweet that it gave me a starry eyed projection that made me wanna stay there forever.

I noticed next to no homeless people, noone doing drugs in the street, even the women were dressed much more modestly in spite of the summer heat. Clean and quiet public transit, and on and on. I did not wanna come back to the US.

Now I just got back from my second trip there. This time I was there for three times as long as last time, and I had no itinerary. Just went winging it, getting lost almost on purpose so I would have to practice speaking in mandarin. It was an amazing time in spite of being lost and disoriented for half or more of the trip.

Of course that was possible because Taiwan is particularly safe. I won't argue that China is or isnt, because I dont really know. But it is clear that East Asia definitely has cities that are just so much more safe than basically anywhere on the US west coast. It might be hard for Americans to fully grasp that, though. Its easy to know how to stay safe in a place you grew up in; anything that could be out of place is easily recognizable when youre familiar with all your surroundings.

In example, I had a White left leaning friend come out to my hood in Texas this spring. We were heading up to a 7-11 because I needed some gas and he wanted a snack. I saw a group of black guys and girls just loitering around there. Another group of them roll up and the greetings all look friendly enough.... but they were all dressed liked wannabe rap stars(ya know... "thugs") and that was all I needed to see. I told my friend "the vibe's not right," because he would just call me racist if I stated the real reason. It worked, his response was "if you say so, this is your neighborhood, after all." We were 2 blocks away when we heard gunshots from 2 blocks behind us.

Its just that easy to stay safe in American cities when you know what to look for. But American cities are just not safe anymore, generally speaking.

Furthermore, I wanted to believe that Taiwan is somehow more family oriented and sexually conservative than the US. LOL! Without getting too far into un-Christian topics, I'll just say that I had that notion dispelled after a night of misunderstandings at the "karaoke TV bar." Also, young Taiwanese women will dress more modestly out and about during the day, but if you ever find yourself at a club, you will see them dressed exactly like American thots.

As for other westerners, I would be a little surprised to find that most of the fellow westerners I met were from anywhere but the US. They often kept the conversation very brief if they even talked to me at all.
I kinda ignored some of them, too. I didn't go all the way to Asia to be around more white liberals.

Even though Taiwan is an American ally and all that, you can tell that plenty of them hold the same attitude towards foreigners in general that Americans would call "xenophobic." I hate that term because it's totally rational to expect foreigners who have no respect for you and your culture to disrespect your country and people. So of course I'm not offended at all that they dont exactly roll the red carpet out for you. Frankly speaking, if you are a tourist or an immigrant you are a guest and you owe it to the locals to learn the language and respect the culture. I could probably make some starry eyed white liberals cry very quickly by telling them exactly that and then speaking Mandarin with the locals just to prove my point.

Being the racist dissident right wing type that I am, I had my wishful projection that maybe there's a more family oriented and conservative place over there in east Asia completely disspelled. It wasn't traumatizing, if anything it made me appreciate my life in the US a lot more.

To bring this back to the thread topic, I halway expect to see Taiwan turn back to Chinese hands within my lifetime. I met someone out there who was Candian born, yet Taiwanese. A "CBC" as he jokingly put it. He would tell me about how he's actually doing a short stint in the Taiwanese military right now. Apparently, even though he was born somewhere else, Taiwan is willing to take him because they've actually been lowering the requirements to get into their military. What does that say about their recruitment stats? Taiwan is going through demographic collapse just like the rest of the modernized world, so it's probably safe to say that on a long enough timeline they just won't even have enough young/youngish people to even join their military at all, and then China won't have try all that hard to just take the island back.
 
Talking about the US certain distinction need to be made. The economy is taxed by wealth destroying minorities I don't even consider American. They're African and Latin American. Easy to spot, while a Chinese criminal in China is not immediately recognizable, especially for a European, foreign devil.

Americans (whites) have abandoned cities many decades ago, if you venture to where they actually are, the safety is unparalleled, people don't need to lock their houses or cars in their driveways overnight. It's not prudent anymore, but still doable. Who wants to live in a city long term? You need a big yard for your kids, watching architecture is not how you will spend your life. You can have the best food there is, and cook it at home, the access is easy if you're not lazy. The dollar is still king for now.

The countryside is clean and beautiful, not just corporate, but family farms with millions in equipment- take a cross country road trip and see. It's not Switzerland or Sweden, nor Japan, but countrywide there are OK waste management programs with a lot of trash incinerated in very high temperature. In Brasil (BRICS) you have favela residents dumping whatever they want into rivers.

If you bought a house 10 or 15 years ago at a rate under 3%, it is now worth nominally twice as much, maybe 30% more in real terms, while you're paying it off in 50% cheaper dollars. You can get into renovating crappy houses, or new construction to take advantage of the market.
 
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