The China Thread

FrancisK said:
Heading to China next month, anyone interested in anything specific while I'm there? I'll post again closer to the trip....
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I am curious how many places still accept payments in cash or by handing over a simple western credit card WITHOUT using a smartphone, and how complicated you find setting up the Chinese apps you will forced to use to pay for most things.

Also, people let us know if you speak any Cantonese or Mandarin, as you have a huge advantage over most other people if that's the case.
 
Caduceus said:
I am curious how many places still accept payments in cash or by handing over a simple western credit card WITHOUT using a smartphone, and how complicated you find setting up the Chinese apps you will forced to use to pay for most things.

Also, people let us know if you speak any Cantonese or Mandarin, as you have a huge advantage over most other people if that's the case.
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You got it brother.

Don't speak any Chinese at all, going there for business and I'm sure they'll be up our asses constantly with an interpreter as nobody kisses ass like the Chinese chasing an American dollar...
 
Caduceus said:
I have posted my detailed reasons for China not being a good place to live after 2020 in this thread 1 page back in post numbers and 72, 77, 79 and 80, and on this page upthread in posts 82, 85, and 89.
Have a look at those posts.

I will add to this that back on the Roosh forum we had a member named "Suits" who had lived in China for almost a decade, and despite being a white western man, had actually learned to speak Mandarin while working there. Even he left China around 2022 despite having built a life and career there, because things had changed too much for the worse.
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"Suits" was a hardcore neoliberal so perhaps the geopolitical aspect with China rubbed on him. Also he was in the hospitality industry there IIRC, which kind of collapsed with covid.

It seems like China is a good place to live if you have a local manufacturing/sourcing/export business or if you are a retiree with a local woman/wife. Compared to Latin America, China is safer, more stable, more first world but still lower cost, though the cultural barrier is higher if you're not Asian.
 
I think Suits had some sort of business that he was setting up there? I remember him writing about that on another forum that I won't mention here (though I haven't checked the forum since COVID started) and it seemed like something wasn't just some local small business but could be scaled up. I had no idea he actually had left the country.
 
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Just bumped into this thread. The vid in the 1st post had a good start, I wish it had continued on that path beyond the Boxer Rebellion to how the Qing dinasty - instated apparently by the very same people who got rid of it in the 1910s - fell after the last emperor was selected while still being a 4-year-old child, iirc.

Such a fascinating country with a culture that dates back millennia, all wiped out by communism and constant materialist brainwashing. Been there in 2018, not sure I'd like to go back though.
 
Caduceus said:
I am curious how many places still accept payments in cash or by handing over a simple western credit card WITHOUT using a smartphone, and how complicated you find setting up the Chinese apps you will forced to use to pay for most things.

Also, people let us know if you speak any Cantonese or Mandarin, as you have a huge advantage over most other people if that's the case.
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Legally, they are required to take paper cash if your smart phone isn't working. I still have paper RMB from my visits last year in case that would ever happen.

You might get push back from vendors though - and it'll look like they're outright refusing if you don't understand the local language.

 
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