The China Thread

[Eagle3]

Sources tell me that in the last few years, a lot of so-called "Singaporeans" are actually Mainland Chinese with Singapore citizenship. Guess who buys these BYD cars? Probably not the actual Singapore people. Amongst the actual Singapore people, there still seems to be demand for Japanese and European cars. They quote the reliability of Japanese cars and safety of European cars as the main reason. Also, there is a "image" factor. From what I heard, not many Singaporeans want to be seen with a Mainland car. It seems Japanese and Euro cars are more of a status symbol.

As for Thailand, there's lots of Thai businesses that are not owned by Thai but by Thai-Chinese. I think you can guess which car they end up buying.

 

[Cooper]

Nope they are still garbage. I saw a video of a 3 year old Chinese EV underneath the hood compared to underneath the hood of a new tesla after 3 years. The Chinese EV was all rusted inside but the Tesla wasn't.

The Ford CEO disagrees with you, he is highly praiseful of the quality of his Xiaomi and other leading Chinese brands, which in his own words constitute "an existential threat" to his company.

If Chinese cars were allowed in N. America with the same level tariffs as other imports, they would be market leaders within a year or two.

Chinese statistics are always fake. Sure urban home ownership appears high if you don't count the millions of rural Chinese workers living undocumented in major cities living 10 people to a shared house who don't show up in those statistics.

Also property taxes vary by location greatly in the west. I live in Sydney and a large percentage of the population don't pay land tax because the minimum threshold for property which incurs land tax is high. The ones that do pay land tax are paying something like $3000 or $4000 per year on a property worth $3 or $4 million. That is like 0.1% per annum. A small price to pay to not have to lease land from communists.

New Zealand has no land tax or stamp duty and in many cases you can even sell assets without paying capital gains tax. There are many places in the west were taxation of property is not an issue.

It looks like you're much better off in Oz than in the US or Canada in property tax, where it's around 1%.

Rents in China are very cheap outside the nicer neighborhoods in top tier cities, a custodian in Wuhan can afford to rent his own place, something that is not possible in Sydney, Melbourne or most large American or western cities. That is why you have large homeless populations in LA, NY, SF, Paris, London etc. Here's what a quick search says about the situation in Australia, which is less dire than in the US:

"A majority of people experiencing homelessness long-term in Australia are found in the large cities of Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth. It is estimated that on any given night approximately 116,000 people will be homeless and many more are living in insecure housing, "one step away from being homeless". "

Also, a lot of rural workers are home and land owners in their province and can receive some income from local agricultural cooperatives.

Western economic data is also fudged, not just with inflation or unemployment, but also with GDP data.

Also China has a lot of capital controls. Not easy or convenient for Chinese people to get their wealth out of China. If investing in China is so great why are all the rich people in China trying to invest their money into Western countries western real estate, western stocks, gold and Bitcoin?

I never said anything about investing in China. This being said, I wouldn't buy property in the US, Oz or UK if I were Chinese, based on what happened to Russian property owners in Europe whose houses were expropriated.

 

[Cooper]

Sources tell me that in the last few years, a lot of so-called "Singaporeans" are actually Mainland Chinese with Singapore citizenship. Guess who buys these BYD cars? Probably not the actual Singapore people. Amongst the actual Singapore people, there still seems to be demand for Japanese and European cars. They quote the reliability of Japanese cars and safety of European cars as the main reason. Also, there is a "image" factor. From what I heard, not many Singaporeans want to be seen with a Mainland car. It seems Japanese and Euro cars are more of a status symbol.

As for Thailand, there's lots of Thai businesses that are not owned by Thai but by Thai-Chinese. I think you can guess which car they end up buying.

In Singapore the car permit alone is worth something like double the value of the car. It costs around US$120K to buy and register a new Camry that would sell for $35k in the US.

In open markets like Australia or Brazil, Chinese car sales are booming.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

There is nothing beautiful or awesome about the gaokao. It is a time of great stress, mental breakdowns and psychological abuse (usually of the parents towards the children). CCP bots and assets trying to brush up the Chinese educational system are testimony of its moral deprivation, literally mandating children to spend 11-16 hours at school in classrooms a day.

It's a time of "great stress" for families with conditional love for their children. There's no fixing that.

The educational system is structured exactly the way it's meant to. You did not provide reasoning for how it's flawed. I'm not going to hate Chinks for drinking water. Obviously there's always room for improvement. Education can be quite unnatural and it's a skill/talent to teach properly, not even factoring in individual needs e.g. some kids are too unhappy to be motivated to learn.

You go to school. You prove you learned something. If you're smart you compete to get into a prestigious university or off to community college you go. Your degree ends up meaning something.

Please do explain how our chimpanzee friendly education, that flies them in, is superior though. I'm aware Asians do not enjoy the process, yearning for a more inclusive experience where they can meet different cultures and try out different sized bananas while they live far away from mommy and daddy, but I'm not sure I feel a lot of sympathy for them.

 

[Eagle3]

In Singapore the car permit alone is worth something like double the value of the car. It costs around US$120K to buy and register a new Camry that would sell for $35k in the US.

In open markets like Australia or Brazil, Chinese car sales are booming.

Don't know about Brazil but Australia has a LOT of Mainland Chinese. So I guess that's where the numbers are coming from. I don't think the actual Aussies would buy them because of EV and the distance thing.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

It's a time of "great stress" for families with conditional love for their children. There's no fixing that.

The educational system is structured exactly the way it's meant to. You did not provide reasoning for how it's flawed. I'm not going to hate Chinks for drinking water. Obviously there's always room for improvement. Education can be quite unnatural and it's a skill/talent to teach properly, not even factoring in individual needs e.g. some kids are too unhappy to be motivated to learn.

You go to school. You prove you learned something. If you're smart you compete to get into a prestigious university or off to community college you go. Your degree ends up meaning something.

Please do explain how our chimpanzee friendly education, that flies them in, is superior though. I'm aware Asians do not enjoy the process, yearning for a more inclusive experience where they can meet different cultures and try out different sized bananas while they live far away from mommy and daddy, but I'm not sure I feel a lot of sympathy for them.

Changs and their low info Westoid simps cannot intrinsically argue in favor of a single facet of Chinese society without trying to frame any counterposition as 'on the other side' and 'part of the opposing team'. It's ingrained in their flawed tribal propagandization, and a reminder of the simple and manipulable nature of most thirdworldists. Therefore the knee-jerk slop reaction above is Alinsky tier gaslighting: accusing those you argue against of what you are doing yourself. Ergo abusive Chinese educational system which physiologically and mentally breaks students through putting immense workloads, humiliation from teacher and parents, physical abuse, stress, 12-16 hour study days and a recent heavy politicitization of especially middle and high school education GOOD because 'chimpouts in US high schools' BAD. Zero actual arguments, just appeals to anti Western sentiments and emotions.

At this point it's obvious that most of the weeaboo westoid Changsplainers haven't been anywhere near a 5000 km radius of China. Actual Chinese who had to live this shyte would laugh their ass off seeing a White monkey (which is commonly used Chinese slang) clap like a seal getting fed his daily sardines praising Chinese schooling. Romanticizing and sugarcoating the gaokao and the Chinese educational system, fastest way to losing your streetcred in China. The Chinese educational system is hated by both students and society alike, destroyer of childhoods and sanity. Which makes the simping all the more hilarious.


It's horrible and many Chinese schools have installed suicide nets and burglar bars in their facilities. The Chinese educational system is absolutely brutal.

Taking note of suicide risks over China’s education ‘Gaokao’ testing system

The exam will determine what university they can attend, with those scoring high could capture a pathway to a successful professional career, while most others will face rising challenges due to their average or below-average tests’ results.

www.americafirstasiainstitute.org

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Why students visas was one of the main topics of discussion during Trump/Xi Ping meeting?

Feels like they’re openly admitting they use students as spies to steal R&D and IP.

The Chinese sold their beneficial trade position out just to keep access to US tech secrets, even though their seriously slumping economy might have played a role too. That and a bunch of other cards they held. Goes to show to what depths this espionage thing goes. They are quite literally looting the place bare whilst at same time running extensive propaganda narratives on how China is surpassing, or has already surpassed the US, in a myriad of ways.

CCP infiltration of US institutions is actually much worse than anyone here assumes. Below is a video of serpentza and laowhy86. The video was made off a new internal Stanford University report on CCP infiltration (which is total), but widened in scope due to a recently approved Chinese law regarding facilitation of foreign espionage.

Here it comes. Due to this law, which is the National Intelligence Law, all Chinese citizens are legally mandated to cooperate and assist with State intelligence work regardless of location.

In laymen terms this means Chinese students, in the US and elsewhere, are legally required to engage in espionage if picked by handlers for such an endeavor. Failure to comply will result in legal consequences, possibly career ending measures and social stigma including harassment of family back home.

Laowhy86 mentions the law at 7:00.

 

[Cooper]

Changs and their low info Westoid simps cannot intrinsically argue in favor of a single facet of Chinese society without trying to frame any counterposition as 'on the other side' and 'part of the opposing team'. It's ingrained in their flawed tribal propagandization, and a reminder of the simple and manipulable nature of most thirdworldists. Therefore the knee-jerk slop reaction above is Alinsky tier gaslighting: accusing those you argue against of what you are doing yourself. Ergo abusive Chinese educational system which physiologically and mentally breaks students through putting immense workloads, humiliation from teacher and parents, physical abuse, stress, 12-16 hour study days and a recent heavy politicitization of especially middle and high school education GOOD because 'chimpouts in US high schools' BAD. Zero actual arguments, just appeals to anti Western sentiments and emotions.

At this point it's obvious that most of the weeaboo westoid Changsplainers haven't been anywhere near a 5000 km radius of China. Actual Chinese who had to live this shyte would laugh their ass off seeing a White monkey (which is commonly used Chinese slang) clap like a seal getting fed his daily sardines praising Chinese schooling. Romanticizing and sugarcoating the gaokao and the Chinese educational system, fastest way to losing your streetcred in China. The Chinese educational system is hated by both students and society alike, destroyer of childhoods and sanity. Which makes the simping all the more hilarious.

It's horrible and many Chinese schools have installed suicide nets and burglar bars in their facilities. The Chinese educational system is absolutely brutal.

Taking note of suicide risks over China’s education ‘Gaokao’ testing system

The exam will determine what university they can attend, with those scoring high could capture a pathway to a successful professional career, while most others will face rising challenges due to their average or below-average tests’ results.

www.americafirstasiainstitute.org

The stress level and opportunities situation of school kids in Taiwan, S. Korea and Japan is significantly worse than in China, but of course this is never contextualized, because it's all about bashing China for the MIC-funded Fox crowd.

The difference is that in China the state banned cram schools, and you can have a decent life with a low income as cost of living (housing, food, transport, healthcare) is kept low. If you're in the bottom half of the tests in China, you're still going to have a better life than your parents, whereas if you don't make the top third in Korea or Taiwan, you have to moonlight and commute hours every day, go into debt just to cover your rent and other expenses.





The other difference in China is that young people have a brighter future and access to first world wealth that their parents didn't have, whereas in Japan and S. Korea their parents were better off and could afford to buy housing. The problems young people face in Japan and Korea are not unlike those faced in the West.

westoid Changsplainers haven't been anywhere near a 5000 km radius of China

Speak for yourself.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

The stress level and opportunities situation of school kids in Taiwan, S. Korea and Japan is significantly worse than in China, but of course this is never contextualized, because it's all about bashing China for the MIC-funded Fox crowd.

The difference is that in China the state banned cram schools, and you can have a decent life with a low income as cost of living (housing, food, transport, healthcare) is kept low. If you're in the bottom half of the tests in China, you're still going to have a better life than your parents, whereas if you don't make the top third in Korea or Taiwan, you have to moonlight and commute hours every day, go into debt just to cover your rent and other expenses.





The other difference in China is that young people have a brighter future and access to first world wealth that their parents didn't have, whereas in Japan and S. Korea their parents were better off and could afford to buy housing. The problems young people face in Japan and Korea are not unlike those faced in the West.



Speak for yourself.

The man just can't help himself. Literally 10 minutes after being confronted with the observation that wumaos are unable to assess Chinese society on its own merits he start waffling about Japan and Korea.

State banned crammed schools

China virgin confirmed. Extra-curricular education in China continues unabated, educational facilities have moved from official schools to parents'/teacher's apartments. In many cases schools ditch the educational license for something else and simply rent apartments and pay off the local officials - whose kids are more often than not enrolled themselves. It's a multi billion dollar business and education is everything in China.

That's China in a nutshell. The Chang simps on the other hand live in a paper propaganda infused reality, clueless about what's happening on the ground.

 

[Cooper]

The Chinese sold their beneficial trade position out just to keep access to US tech secrets, even though their seriously slumping economy might have played a role too. That and a bunch of other cards they held. Goes to show to what depths this espionage thing goes. They are quite literally looting the place bare whilst at same time running extensive propaganda narratives on how China is surpassing, or has already surpassed the US, in a myriad of ways.

CCP infiltration of US institutions is actually much worse than anyone here assumes. Below is a video of serpentza and laowhy86. The video was made off a new internal Stanford University report on CCP infiltration (which is total), but widened in scope due to a recently approved Chinese law regarding facilitation of foreign espionage.

Here it comes. Due to this law, which is the National Intelligence Law, all Chinese citizens are legally mandated to cooperate and assist with State intelligence work regardless of location.

In laymen terms this means Chinese students, in the US and elsewhere, are legally required to engage in espionage if picked by handlers for such an endeavor. Failure to comply will result in legal consequences, possibly career ending measures and social stigma including harassment of family back home.

Laowhy86 mentions the law at 7:00.

This is arguably worse:

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

This is arguably worse:

Gets confronted with massive Chinese espionage rings and an intrusive and hostile Chinese state, starts babbling about US BAD.

Weird defense mechanism, but it again proves the point made. Nobody here defends American governmental overreach bytheway, the same cannot be said for the at this point clownesque Xi Jinping groupies.

 

[Cooper]

The man just can't help himself. Literally 10 minutes after being confronted with the observation that wumaos are unable to assess Chinese society on its own merits he start waffling about Japan and Korea.

You haven't addressed my point about things being even worse in SK and Japan, basic regional/cultural context.

No response, just the usual lowbrow personal attacks.

China virgin confirmed. Extra-curricular education in China continues unabated, educational facilities have moved from official schools to parents'/teacher's apartments. In many cases schools simply rent apartments and pay off the local officials - whose kids are more often than not enrolled themselves.

That's China in a nutshell. The Chang simps on the other hand live in a paper propaganda infused reality, clueless about what's happening on the ground.

Yeah and you are so well-informed about China through Serpentza's postings about rampant theft and filth in Chinese cities, lol.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

Changs and their low info Westoid simps cannot intrinsically argue in favor of a single facet of Chinese society without trying to frame any counterposition as 'on the other side' and 'part of the opposing team'.

You want us to judge the Chinese strictly intrinsically, with no whataboutism? Okay I guess.

Ergo abusive Chinese educational system which physiologically and mentally breaks students through putting immense workloads, humiliation from teacher and parents, physical abuse, stress, 12-16 hour study days

This is some very bad stuff, shame on them.

Actual Chinese who had to live this shyte would laugh their ass off seeing a White monkey (which is commonly used Chinese slang) clap like a seal getting fed his daily sardines praising Chinese schooling.

Super based, they understand the meaning of "outsider".

In laymen terms this means Chinese students, in the US and elsewhere, are legally required to engage in espionage if picked by handlers for such an endeavor. Failure to comply will result in legal consequences, possibly career ending measures and social stigma including harassment of family back home.

Is this bad for the Chinese?

What I truly don't understand is whether the CCP is bad for the subhuman chinks or the subhuman chinks are bad for the CCP. The greater lesson here eludes me. You're not providing enough context.

 

[Australia Sucks]

The problems young people face in Japan and Korea are not unlike those faced in the West.

Its really sad that Japanese and Korean women have swallowed the western feminism poison pill. Japanese and Korean women are on average at least moderately attractive when young. If these young women married middle aged men from their own country or western men they could live a comfortable life instead of working 2 full time jobs just to pay for food and rent for a tiny apartment because muh independence. I can say pretty much every young Japanese or Korean woman I have met has fully swallowed the feminism pill.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

Daaamn... Lil Coop loves him some China don't he? Full on yellow fever with this commie simpathizer. The Chicom is strong with this one.

... shrooms, held in tiny packages... smuggled by Chinese scientists... in little plastic bags in their own checked-in luggage...

I'm not even all that smart and even I know that you can't carry organic matter on international flights (or when driving from Arizona into California, where I once got detained for attempting to carry an apple across state lines). And you say that these Chinese high IQ scientists didn't know the US (and Chinese) protocol for transporting organic matter internationally or that they simply "forgot"? Ah, poor Lil Coop, would you like to buy a bridge that I'm selling?

... babbling about US BAD.

Yeah, we got a few adolescent "I hate my hometown and want to move far away for a fresh start where nobody knows me" types around here with a deep onset of "the grass is always greener on the other side" psychosis. Sad. @It_Is_My_Time @Blade Runner @Cooper et al are ultra nutty with this "America bad and collapsing very soon, tuck tail and run, because everywhere else is better and on the upswing." Pure crazy talk steeped in blackpill praying for it to be true. The hatred towards their own homeland is so irrational and severe that they are actually praying deep in their hearts for America to plunge into collapse via a civil war based on race, just so that they can be right and say "I told you so." There's only one problem... ain't gonna happen. And even if it did, the rest of the world would be coming with us as America is the absolute center of the known universe... And please don't even try and argue with that last sentence lest you further embarrass yourselves with more incorrect fortune telling and predictions that never come to fruition.

God Bless America!

 

[Blade Runner]

et al are ultra nutty

I don't know why you include me. There are a lot of good things about America, but women isn't one of them. It's also in clear decline. I'm also one of the few that has much less to worry about, so your statements make even less sense, apart from not ever being close to what I write on the forum.