The Biden-Harris Administration

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TruckDriver9 said:
Preemptively.
So he can't be charged in the future for any of his actions prior to the pardon.
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They ought to go ahead and investigate every one of these people who were pardoned, find out what crimes they committed, and release the evidence. They might not be able to prosecute them now due to the pardon, but they can still bring out into the open every crime they committed.
 
I don’t think these pardons are legally sound, but I’m not a constitutional lawyer. I also don’t think they apply to treason, from what I’m hearing. They probably wouldn’t protect them from civil lawsuits or those at the state level. What about if charges are brought before a military tribunal, given that he was CiC?
 
TruckDriver9 said:
But, apparently, still can sign legally binding documents.
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Only in front of people who used him to sign the Executive orders - i.e., Schumer, Pelosi, CIA, FBI, etc.

So we sit down, and we’re in the midst of this whole conversation. I think we don’t need to have this conversation. The president reaches over, just like this -- we’re sitting right next to the fireplace in the Oval -- and he grabs my arm and says, "The Speaker and I just need a couple minutes together. Would y’all just leave us alone?" I looked up at the faces of some of the staff standing around the wall, and they’re like, No, he didn’t. But he did. He called it. He’s the commander-in-chief. So everybody leaves, and he and I are standing awkwardly in the middle of the Oval Office, right over the rug by that coffee table.

I said, "Mr. President, thanks for the moment. You know this is very important. I’ve got some big national security things I need to talk to you about that I’ve heard, and I think you know. What do we do?"

But first, real quickly, "Mr. President, can I ask you a question? I cannot answer this to my constituents in Louisiana. Sir, why did you pause LNG exports to Europe? Like, I don't understand. Liquefied natural gas is in great demand by our allies. Why would you do that? You understand -- we just talked about Ukraine -- you’re fueling Vladimir Putin’s war machine because they’ve got to get their gas from him."

He looks at me, stunned, and says, "I didn’t, I didn’t do that."

I said, "Mr. President, yes, you did. It was an executive order, like, three weeks ago."

He says, "No, I didn’t do that." He’s arguing with me.

I said, "Mr. President, respectfully, could I go out here and ask your secretary to print it out? We’ll read it together. You definitely did that."

And he goes, "Oh, you’re talking about natural gas?"

"Yes, sir," I said.

"No, no, I think you misunderstand," he replied. "What I did is I signed this thing to, we’re going to conduct a study on the effects of LNG."

I said, "No, you’re not, sir. You paused it. I know. I have the export terminals in my state. I talked to those people this morning. This is doing massive damage to our economy and national security."

It occurred to me, Bari, he was not lying to me. He genuinely did not know what he had signed. I walked out of that meeting with fear and loathing because I thought, We’re in serious trouble. Who is running the country? I don’t know who put the paper in front of him, but he didn’t know.
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budoslavic said:
Only in front of people who used him to sign the Executive orders - i.e., Schumer, Pelosi, CIA, FBI, etc.


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Funny thing. I actually remember this EO, and wondered, back then when it was signed, how retarted one had to be to sign it. Because it happened at the time when the Red Sea crisis disrupted the Qatar-EU LNG supply chain, leaving them in need of new supply source. Now I know.
 
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