Massive power outage in Spain and Portugal

Just go nuclear, isn't France still mostly nuclear?
Yes, I believe it is/was. I remember reading years ago that France had one of the highest percentages in Europe to get its electricity from nuclear power.

Does Oz have any nuclear power? Here in Canada, IIRC, only the provinces of Ontario and New Brunswick (Canada's Maine) have nuclear power.
 
Just go nuclear, isn't France still mostly nuclear? I know Germany is killing itself so they destroyed their nuclear plants.

Now that Spain dumped their reservoirs to regain power they'll be whinging soon that they don't have drinking water because...... you know .... muh climate change!
Germany actually pays Austria to take excess energy from Germany. Then Germany buys it back. Absolutely ridiculous
 
This actually a really good point. Some 3rd world/developing countries will feel the impact of this type of event compared to 1st world, just in time economies. Others will probably be crippled though...
They already live like that. So no change for them. The slums in Spain had normal life. They were better than the rest.

Pedro Sanchez is pointing the finger to private contractors connected to the electricity network. The official narrative is the event happened in Extremadura west part of Spain. And is related to two solar plants. Some say it was simply a cloud. But until now nobody says what was the trigger. The companies have been slow and reluctant in giving info to the government. Supposedly the private electric companies have black boxes like in planes and Sanchez is asking for them. Most likely this was foul play (sabotage) or simply a f up from one of the private electric companies.

The european network automatically disconnected itself from the spanish. But they still had minor disruptions. Greenland have they´re satelite equipment in Spain. Spain and Portugal are used as backup data places for a lot of European public and private institutions. Cause they are considered safe.

There are some reports Sanchez is increasing his security detail. Spanish want to hang him.

Wild conspiracy theories about what happened:




A little birdie told a tale that the point of origin for the blackout possibly originated at a high-voltage substation in the Basque region of northern Spain, specifically near Bilbao, at the Elorrio substation operated by Red Eléctrica, Spain’s national grid operator. The potential method of the sabotage was a sophisticated cyberattack targeted the substation’s SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) system, injecting malware that overloaded transformers and triggered a cascading failure across the European grid. The malware exploited a known vulnerability in Siemens S7-1200 PLCs, which Red Eléctrica uses for grid automation (Siemens Security Advisory SS, 2022). Simultaneously, a small explosive device equivalent to 2 kg of C4 was detonated at the Girona substation, severing key transformers. The explosion was timed to coincide with the cyberattack, ensuring the grid couldn’t reroute power. No casualties were reported, but the substation was disabled, triggering the cascade mentions no cause, which suggest a possible cover-up. A report stated that it was a covert team of five operatives executed the attack. Three were on-site in Girona two men and one woman, dressed as maintenance workers, planting the explosive. The other two, operating remotely from a safehouse in Marseille, France, launched the cyberattack. The team used encrypted comms, speaking in a mix of Russian and French, indicating a multinational operation. Their gear military-grade, including night-vision goggles and signal jammers suggests state-level backing.

Also some talk about an EMP weapon used.

Some russians hackers supposedly also took credit for the hack. But it´s all speculation. Cause if anyone had done this it would be Ukrainians and Israelis. And also maybe France. Macron is not happy with US/Russia division of Ukraine assets after all the money invested by EU. Trump is aslo a diplomatic disaster. And this could support the ongoing retarded support of Ukraine.

There was also a cyberattack against Iran on sunday. And the sms to the catalans. Which could indicate the hacking was already progressing. But who knows. I´ve been having bad reception since the beginning of last week. My wife also. I´m still having while I write this. And before was the same.


The judge has made the investigation classified. It´s now considered a state secret.

Spain didn´t restart it´s energy with blackstart. It was through transfer of energy from France and Morocco. Portugal seems to have used the blackstart and today has asked the EU to start spending more in defense.

Why were all the nuclear plants in Spain offline? It´s also strange. And why didn´t stops to the blackout happened containing the spread. They say it was a drop superior to 60% and the system couldn´t handle it. But who knows. There were similar blackouts in other countries in the past.

I know a guy connected to a chamber who would probably know what happened. Will text him. But I doubt he will reply since I havent spoken to him for a while. Will try regardless.

Anedoctes from all this shit:

1. The houses in Spain and Portugal with solar panels which were connected to the grid also had no power. Ahahahaha. I knew it would be stupid to connect any solar panels to the official grid. People do it to sell energy back to the network. But the government is always filth so imagine the face of people with solar panels. And not being able to use them. When I had budgets from the solar companies I told them I wanted them compleltely off official grid. This is not allowed. But I will do it anyway. I wanted also separate batteries. And at least solar energy and a generator for the kitchen. And one outlet in each division with a different solar panel and batery for each one. The companies said it was possible but really expensive.

Spanish are talking about this equipment to disconnect from the official grid. Looll.


2. While I was going for a walk during the blackout. The city cleaning people were still working. Read this in another forum. And it´s true. Saw a black dude with a broom. And almost gave him a shout: You are still working with all this shit? They didn´t sent you home?
But they made it to calm people down.

3. All government buildings hospitals etc didn´t have enough gasoline for generators. Some didnt even had generators. And the hospitals didn´t shutdown in a matter of hours. Potentially killing thousands. Airports, maternities etc,

4. Food was served in paper/plastic cutlery to send them to trash. In order to save water. Schools, government agencies etc. are doing simulations of more attacks. There´s something which happened last year. Which made me think something like this would happen. And my wife as usual remembered it. My oldest kid also. Don´t know if it was broken clock is right two times...

5. There are still areas without water. The pumps are destroyed. And it will take some time to replace them.

6. Portugal decided not to connect to Spain electricity. Even though it´s already possible.

Another wild speculation is they rebooted the system to install something there.
 
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Another wild speculation...
Yes, a lot of "speculation." So lets stick with facts:

FACT #1: The blackout happened and you and the rest of western civilization were not prepared for it.

FACT #2: This will happen again. 911 will happen again. Covid will happen again. October 7th will happen again. The Colonial Pipeline shutdown for BTC ransom will happen again. Nordstream 2 shutdown will happen again. Unnecessary, endless, for profit wars will continue ad infinitum. Except these incidents will get progressively worse and more catastrophic.

Now the question becomes, "What can I do to protect myself from these future events of catastrophy that I know are coming?"

Lets review the CiK forum archive for some potential answers to this question...

December 18th 2023:
You really should consider moving to the woods and giving up all worldly pursuits and possessions (besides tools of survival and simple "luxury" items that bring you modest amounts of entertainment and pleasure).
June 25th 2024:
Invest in real world objects and tools that can actually do something to help yourself and others in a time of crisis, not this pie in the sky Lucifarian strike it rich dream. If the electricity goes out for 8 days your BTC is f*ucked, but your CAT generator will be purring like a cat.
July 7th 2024:
Cash in everything you have now (BTC, 401K, Gold, etc.) and buy real world real estate, tools, generators, trucks, planes, boats, tractors, backhoes, etc. We must begin to think that possibly within the next 20 years all monetary instruments as we know them could be worthless (this includes BTC).
 
Yes, a lot of "speculation." So lets stick with facts:

FACT #1: The blackout happened and you and the rest of western civilization were not prepared for it.
Nobody is prepared for a blackout. It´s the same than an earthquake. You can have some things which will work for a while. But whatever modern energy form is finite without infrastructure. If people don´t organize peacefully to create scaled structures you will live like africans.

If the government doesn´t try to sabotage the population simply creating lines of credit is enough for people while infrastructure is putting back up. Supermarkets can just ask for people ID and establish a maximum of 20 euros expense per person rationing essential items. And this debt be repaid when things return to some form of normalcy. As long as there´s food. And supply chains are intact. Civilization doesnt collapse.

I already live on a farm. But it´s too close to urban city. The area where I live will be the last to fall. But I expect petty crime. I could relocate to more isolated but if the area where I live falls. The rest is gone. But Im still thinking on this.

Living in a farm sucks. Living on an apartment is 10x better. In a farm everyday something breaks. Or needs maintenance. You need workers. Manage and pay them. The flies, snakes, rats. It´s really a nightmare. But I made this step for safety. Everyday I work and in the end of the day pay. I work and pay.

FACT #2: This will happen again. 911 will happen again. Covid will happen again. October 7th will happen again. The Colonial Pipeline shutdown for BTC ransom will happen again. Nordstream 2 shutdown will happen again. Unnecessary, endless, for profit wars will continue ad infinitum. Except these incidents will get progressively worse and more catastrophic.

There will be a severe impoverishment. Things have gotten too corrupt. But still too comfortable for people to revolt. They will fall more and civil unrest will happen.

Now the question becomes, "What can I do to protect myself from these future events of catastrophy that I know are coming?"

Lets review the CiK forum archive for some potential answers to this question...

December 18th 2023:

June 25th 2024:

July 7th 2024:

There´s nothing you can do to protect yourself in a mad max scenario. If youre the guy with food and electricity people will gather and attack you. If you are alone in the woods. You are an easy prey. Besides not being easily feasible with children moving to a jungle.

Also a mad max scenario in countries majorly europeans will always be temporary.

A brutal fallout means something like returning to medieval ages. A lord with a small army will rule a small geographical area. And from time to time there will be wars against other small armies. Until some central entity is put in place. The europeans settler in US didn´t have any infrastructure and managed to survive. It will mean a brutal impoverishment. And my effort is to preserve some comfort while the fallout lasts. Not abandon comfort for my family. If it´s to live like Tarzan than what´s the point? My goal is not to leave comfort. Even though I already did. But minimize the fallouts. Probably buy a VCR. Some tapes. For the kids to watch. Books. People went to read books in the blackout.

Probably creating a plan B for population to organize indepenednt from government makes more sense than leaving to the jungle. People will not attack each other if there´s any form of plan.

People already have enough shit to worry about. Than some dumbass event. but it is what it is.

Bitcoin is worthless. And evil. I own zero. But it will go up in price. I like cash. Paper.

I think this is a reharseal for something big. Much bigger than this. It will be more destrcutrive and last longer.
 
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People trapped on a train Spain. Others gathered to give them food and water:





A restaurant owner with generators asking people to come and eat there:





This is poor area in Portugal. People queuing for water:






The joke was the collapse would happen when the beer stopped being cold.

Short term you can be prepared. But if its something prolonged in time. Only with organization structure and plan with other people you can survive.

What you need is a backup plan for the population. For the population to organize when the red jews attack. The attack will create temporary disruption. If people can organize it will pass. It will bend but not break. And hang the traitors. This is the most important part. Find the tallest tree. And a nice rope.
 
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They already live like that. So no change for them. The slums in Spain had normal life. They were better than the rest.

Pedro Sanchez is pointing the finger to private contractors connected to the electricity network. The official narrative is the event happened in Extremadura west part of Spain. And is related to two solar plants. Some say it was simply a cloud. But until now nobody says what was the trigger. The companies have been slow and reluctant in giving info to the government. Supposedly the private electric companies have black boxes like in planes and Sanchez is asking for them. Most likely this was foul play (sabotage) or simply a f up from one of the private electric companies.

The european network automatically disconnected itself from the spanish. But they still had minor disruptions. Greenland have they´re satelite equipment in Spain. Spain and Portugal are used as backup data places for a lot of European public and private institutions. Cause they are considered safe.

There are some reports Sanchez is increasing his security detail. Spanish want to hang him.

Wild conspiracy theories about what happened:




A little birdie told a tale that the point of origin for the blackout possibly originated at a high-voltage substation in the Basque region of northern Spain, specifically near Bilbao, at the Elorrio substation operated by Red Eléctrica, Spain’s national grid operator. The potential method of the sabotage was a sophisticated cyberattack targeted the substation’s SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) system, injecting malware that overloaded transformers and triggered a cascading failure across the European grid. The malware exploited a known vulnerability in Siemens S7-1200 PLCs, which Red Eléctrica uses for grid automation (Siemens Security Advisory SS, 2022). Simultaneously, a small explosive device equivalent to 2 kg of C4 was detonated at the Girona substation, severing key transformers. The explosion was timed to coincide with the cyberattack, ensuring the grid couldn’t reroute power. No casualties were reported, but the substation was disabled, triggering the cascade mentions no cause, which suggest a possible cover-up. A report stated that it was a covert team of five operatives executed the attack. Three were on-site in Girona two men and one woman, dressed as maintenance workers, planting the explosive. The other two, operating remotely from a safehouse in Marseille, France, launched the cyberattack. The team used encrypted comms, speaking in a mix of Russian and French, indicating a multinational operation. Their gear military-grade, including night-vision goggles and signal jammers suggests state-level backing.

Also some talk about an EMP weapon used.

Some russians hackers supposedly also took credit for the hack. But it´s all speculation. Cause if anyone had done this it would be Ukrainians and Israelis. And also maybe France. Macron is not happy with US/Russia division of Ukraine assets after all the money invested by EU. Trump is aslo a diplomatic disaster. And this could support the ongoing retarded support of Ukraine.

There was also a cyberattack against Iran on sunday. And the sms to the catalans. Which could indicate the hacking was already progressing. But who knows. I´ve been having bad reception since the beginning of last week. My wife also. I´m still having while I write this. And before was the same.


The judge has made the investigation classified. It´s now considered a state secret.

Spain didn´t restart it´s energy with blackstart. It was through transfer of energy from France and Morocco. Portugal seems to have used the blackstart and today has asked the EU to start spending more in defense.

Why were all the nuclear plants in Spain offline? It´s also strange. And why didn´t stops to the blackout happened containing the spread. They say it was a drop superior to 60% and the system couldn´t handle it. But who knows. There were similar blackouts in other countries in the past.

I know a guy connected to a chamber who would probably know what happened. Will text him. But I doubt he will reply since I havent spoken to him for a while. Will try regardless.

Anedoctes from all this shit:

1. The houses in Spain and Portugal with solar panels which were connected to the grid also had no power. Ahahahaha. I knew it would be stupid to connect any solar panels to the official grid. People do it to sell energy back to the network. But the government is always filth so imagine the face of people with solar panels. And not being able to use them. When I had budgets from the solar companies I told them I wanted them compleltely off official grid. This is not allowed. But I will do it anyway. I wanted also separate batteries. And at least solar energy and a generator for the kitchen. And one outlet in each division with a different solar panel and batery for each one. The companies said it was possible but really expensive.

Spanish are talking about this equipment to disconnect from the official grid. Looll.


2. While I was going for a walk during the blackout. The city cleaning people were still working. Read this in another forum. And it´s true. Saw a black dude with a broom. And almost gave him a shout: You are still working with all this shit? They didn´t sent you home?
But they made it to calm people down.

3. All government buildings hospitals etc didn´t have enough gasoline for generators. Some didnt even had generators. And the hospitals didn´t shutdown in a matter of hours. Potentially killing thousands. Airports, maternities etc,

4. Food was served in paper/plastic cutlery to send them to trash. In order to save water. Schools, government agencies etc. are doing simulations of more attacks. There´s something which happened last year. Which made me think something like this would happen. And my wife as usual remembered it. My oldest kid also. Don´t know if it was broken clock is right two times...

5. There are still areas without water. The pumps are destroyed. And it will take some time to replace them.

6. Portugal decided not to connect to Spain electricity. Even though it´s already possible.

Another wild speculation is they rebooted the system to install something there.

Im amazed to hear that the houses with solar in Europe were still without power😐 whats the point of having solar then?

Many homes and businesses in South Africa are completely off the grid, the last house I was staying at I never even knew when there were power cuts as it was off the grib, only when the power cuts were over 9-10 hours and it had been raining for days (no sun to charge the batteries) besides that we had gad geyerses, gas stove, solar electricity but also could be bypassed to the grid if needed, we had a borehole pump (a well) but we didnt have a solar pump like some had which is actually better, my house had municipal water but other homes have connected their well water to to their main water line.

Regarding chaos and crime during power outages I cant really say its been a huge problem but because its happens so frequently now and its scheduled criminals have taken advantage of this and they steal electricity cables worth hundreds of thousands while the lights are off, pedestrians and people walking around at night get mugged, this happens mostly in the poorer black neighborhoods as its very dark there as they cant afford alternative power supplies so their neighborhoods become dangerous.

Europe is in trouble they are very far behind in dooms day preparations and the lack of nature around them makes it even worse, but at least the people are a bit more civalized.

Water cute I find are far worse and the public becomes more agressive and anxious when theres no water, in my grandmothers neighborhood they have water cuts often, if it lasts more than a week people have started protesting and burning tyres and stuff in the streets, I drove through one of these protests once, fires and smoke everywhere.

I found it very suspicious that Europe announced in the news during the power cuts that they feared violence and looting, almost like they were trying to cause panic in the people.
 
Yes, I believe it is/was. I remember reading years ago that France had one of the highest percentages in Europe to get its electricity from nuclear power.

Does Oz have any nuclear power? Here in Canada, IIRC, only the provinces of Ontario and New Brunswick (Canada's Maine) have nuclear power.

Zero nuclear power here mate, they're shutting down all our brown and black coal power plants to make us breathe better. Shutting down Chemtrails aren't part of that agenda unfortunately.

Imagine the largest exporter of uranium and being the one not using it to it's advantage?

I wonder why...?

Australia has always been a mine/farm/experiment on human behavior, a throw away when it comes to it really.
 
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No electricity issues in my part of Europe..
The radio is really important
For a while now I've been looking at getting a shortwave radio and possibly as well an emergency radio with wind-up power as well. Maybe a scanner which went from like 100kHz to the MHz range would be good in a SHTF scenario, listen to all kinds of things.
I must say that South Africa is FAR more prepared than Europe for power outages because we have had YEARS of power outages and we (the private sector) have built alternatives
Yes, this reminded me of my experiences on visits.. Crossing the roads when the traffic lights are out due to load shedding. There was that time I was in the free weights section of a gym when it suddenly went dark and the music stopped for about ten seconds till the generator started.

Then, there was a place I stayed at without proper backup power. There was a blackout not due to load shedding but due to cable theft. That is unscheduled and in this case it went for about two days. I remember there was no power in the rooms, no boiling the kettle, charging the PC but in the common room they had a power point for low current things like charging devices.

Another common South African experience is to be on the phone with someone and they announce "load shedding is about to start and the signal may get worse!"

People are proud of their solar installations - panels, inverter, batteries. Some batteries are actually made in South Africa. They get excited about how they have an app to monitor and control it. There's also solar water heating.

Another common thing at least in the Gauteng province is drilling a bore hole for water. I heard thirty metres deep is typical..
night-vision goggles
Apparently this is a good one to have for when the SHTF.

Once in my life I was up a lighthouse and there were a bunch of techies, one had a night vision telescope which I got to try out. It was really amazing, shades of green and black. He told me to not point it at the city lights. It did not like any lights, but looking out into the darkness one could see waves breaking at the bottom of a cliff many kilometres away which to the naked eye was pitch black darkness.
When I had budgets from the solar companies I told them I wanted them compleltely off official grid. This is not allowed.
Yes there is some real strangeness with governments and solar power. I've also heard strange examples in Europe where very nonsensical regulation and taxes are imposed on solar installations. Yes @magoo just do it - rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools.
And afterwards you will find them hanged or fed to dog
And hang the traitors. This is the most important part. Find the tallest tree. And a nice rope.
There don't seem to be any political lynchings these days unfortunately.. Only that they sometimes go after the good ones like Fico

I have a corded landline and the router is fed by optic fibre however it runs on electricity. I wonder if there is an outage here to what extent the telephone exchange or perhaps more correctly ISP these days, has backup power. However my router has no backup power and I wonder if it should and if that would be hard to organise.
 
No electricity issues in my part of Europe..

For a while now I've been looking at getting a shortwave radio and possibly as well an emergency radio with wind-up power as well. Maybe a scanner which went from like 100kHz to the MHz range would be good in a SHTF scenario, listen to all kinds of things.

Yes, this reminded me of my experiences on visits.. Crossing the roads when the traffic lights are out due to load shedding. There was that time I was in the free weights section of a gym when it suddenly went dark and the music stopped for about ten seconds till the generator started.

Then, there was a place I stayed at without proper backup power. There was a blackout not due to load shedding but due to cable theft. That is unscheduled and in this case it went for about two days. I remember there was no power in the rooms, no boiling the kettle, charging the PC but in the common room they had a power point for low current things like charging devices.

Another common South African experience is to be on the phone with someone and they announce "load shedding is about to start and the signal may get worse!"

People are proud of their solar installations - panels, inverter, batteries. Some batteries are actually made in South Africa. They get excited about how they have an app to monitor and control it. There's also solar water heating.

Another common thing at least in the Gauteng province is drilling a bore hole for water. I heard thirty metres deep is typical..

Apparently this is a good one to have for when the SHTF.

Once in my life I was up a lighthouse and there were a bunch of techies, one had a night vision telescope which I got to try out. It was really amazing, shades of green and black. He told me to not point it at the city lights. It did not like any lights, but looking out into the darkness one could see waves breaking at the bottom of a cliff many kilometres away which to the naked eye was pitch black darkness.

Yes there is some real strangeness with governments and solar power. I've also heard strange examples in Europe where very nonsensical regulation and taxes are imposed on solar installations. Yes @magoo just do it - rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools.


There don't seem to be any political lynchings these days unfortunately.. Only that they sometimes go after the good ones like Fico

I have a corded landline and the router is fed by optic fibre however it runs on electricity. I wonder if there is an outage here to what extent the telephone exchange or perhaps more correctly ISP these days, has backup power. However my router has no backup power and I wonder if it should and if that would be hard to organise.
The general rule for crossing traffic lights when theres no power is to treat it like a 4 way stop, first come first serve, homeless people have started directing traffic for tips which has helped and some insurance companies also direct traffic to advertise their companies, Iv also seen some banks fixing pot holes with a team of guys to promote their bank and product I found that to be very good advertising.

Anyway these European power cuts remind us of how fragile our modern world is and how easily it is to disrupt our daily lives, an opportunity to reflect.
 
Zero nuclear power here mate, they're shutting down all our brown and black coal power plants to make us breathe better. Shutting down Chemtrails aren't part of that agenda unfortunately.

Imagine the largest exporter of uranium and being the one not using it to it's advantage?

I wonder why...?

Australia has always been a mine/farm/experiment on human behavior, a throw away when it comes to it really.
Nuclear power plants are the cleanest forms of electricity to produce, many people arent aware that submarines run on nuclear energy, they can travel around the world and supply power to a huge crew, gym, kitchens etc and the waste after all that is just a 2 liter glass bottle of nuclear waste, thats it.
 
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