Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence Thread

This is wild. Hollywood as we know it is a dead man walking. Even if AI technology fails to spread into the rest of the society (unlikely), the fact that it will soon decentralize and democratize the creation of audiovisual media will have profound and far-reaching implications for society. The entire idea of movie stars will soon seem as antiquated as a gladiators, and the massive cultural influence of film/TV will be open to independent creators. The fact that major movie and television production was, for decades, a carefully controlled realm guarded by an army of gatekeepers, will strike us as an unfortunate artifact of a more primitive time. There will soon be an indie revolution in movies/TV to rival what we've seen with music, YouTube, and computer games over the past decade (where in each of those spheres independent artists/producers have been creating content of much greater quality and originality than legacy studios).



To retain control of the official narrative, they will just put any AI movie or image making tool behind a very expensive paywall.
Problem solved (for them)
 
Here's a report from Deloitte:


This looks like a powerpoint telling me how awesome AI is, based on surveys. https://www.deloitte.com/content/da...services/consulting/2026/state-of-ai-2026.pdf

It reads like this (troll?) tweet:



I didn't see anything on Apps it can create or concrete examples.

Also Deloitte's credibility is pretty low from this scandal and really want to shine AI in the birghtest possible light: https://fortune.com/2025/11/25/delo...arch-million-dollar-report-canada-government/
 
I didn't see anything on Apps it can create or concrete examples.
You asked for something about enterprise AI use that didn't come from an AI company, I provided it. Now you say it's not technical enough. If you want something more technical, it's probably going to originate from someone involved with AI development, given that those people are the ones most intimately familiar with the technology and its potential uses. I've provided that, as well, but you say it's biased and can't be trusted. It seems that your mind is already made up on the topic.
 
Seedance 2.0 can recreate your voice with only a photo of you

The model reportedly demonstrated the ability to generate highly accurate personal voice characteristics using only facial images, even without user authorization.

uploading a personal facial photo caused the model to produce audio nearly identical to his real voice — without using any voice samples or authorized data.


 
You asked for something about enterprise AI use that didn't come from an AI company, I provided it. Now you say it's not technical enough. If you want something more technical, it's probably going to originate from someone involved with AI development, given that those people are the ones most intimately familiar with the technology and its potential uses. I've provided that, as well, but you say it's biased and can't be trusted. It seems that your mind is already made up on the topic.

I didn't ask for "something", I asked for concrete examples. You haven't provided anything other than a powerpoint of survey responses from an ill-reputed consulting firm on AI who's trying to justify their $3B investment.

I work intimately with AI with work. It's not remotely close to what they are selling. It can copy code from elsewhere to build something simple (and they even get this wrong), but anything involving integration or complications fails miserably.

If you read my responses, my mind is not made up. I've stated repeatedly that it may be what they're saying.

However, I'm waiting to see evidence, real evidence.

It's interesting to see you believing the hype about this tech, but not Bitcoin (which I also agree with you about). I see the same type of techbros hyping HODL on AI. Just without concrete evidence.
 
Seedance 2.0 can recreate your voice with only a photo of you







Reminds of those old "password strength websites", where you type in your password to see how strong it is and to not know what happens to it. :)
 
It's interesting to see you believing the hype about this tech, but not Bitcoin (which I also agree with you about). I see the same type of techbros hyping HODL on AI. Just without concrete evidence.
To be clear, I'm not an AI maximalist who thinks that AI is going to either create a utopia or bring about the end of the world. I simply think it is a highly powerful and disruptive technology that will ultimately impact society on at least a similar level as the internet. My basis for this belief is not what you or others are able to use AI for today, but the breathtaking speed at which AI is becoming more powerful and competent. The videos I posted earlier of the first Will Smith spaghetti video (from just 2 years ago) versus what Seedance 2.0 can produce demonstrate this point very clearly and incontrovertibly. Bitcoin, in contrast, has been around for 17 years and still serves no purpose besides speculation. If Bitcoin had a similar adoption and power curve to AI, it would already be the world reserve currency and underpin the global economy. If Bitcoin disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, no one besides those who own and trade it would notice. The world would collectively shrug its shoulders. However, if AI suddenly disappeared - even having only really existed in the public mind for a few years - it would be a huge story (and perhaps a relief in many regards - but a big deal either way).
 
However, if AI suddenly disappeared - even having only really existed in the public mind for a few years - it would be a huge story
There would likely be celebration.

You've got this all wrong, because you keep stumping for centralizations and arguments that increase propaganda and debasement (fiat and AI).

BTC has ~.95 r² to the power law described. Just so you know.
 
To be clear, I'm not an AI maximalist who thinks that AI is going to either create a utopia or bring about the end of the world. I simply think it is a highly powerful and disruptive technology that will ultimately impact society on at least a similar level as the internet. My basis for this belief is not what you or others are able to use AI for today, but the breathtaking speed at which AI is becoming more powerful and competent. The videos I posted earlier of the first Will Smith spaghetti video (from just 2 years ago) versus what Seedance 2.0 can produce demonstrate this point very clearly and incontrovertibly. Bitcoin, in contrast, has been around for 17 years and still serves no purpose besides speculation. If Bitcoin had a similar adoption and power curve to AI, it would already be the world reserve currency and underpin the global economy. If Bitcoin disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, no one besides those who own and trade it would notice. The world would collectively shrug its shoulders. However, if AI suddenly disappeared - even having only really existed in the public mind for a few years - it would be a huge story (and perhaps a relief in many regards - but a big deal either way).

Fair enough. AI in media creation has improved with greater alacrity. Although in the AI clips, you can see the CGI (thinking the Breaking Bad clip) that breaks the illusion. Many people won't see it however and are happy to blissfully consume.

In knowledge based professions it's been woefully lacking.

My wife is an attorney and her company has invested over $1B in AI and told the staff that they must use it. It invents (non-existand) case precedents to justify a legal argument. So in many situations it's losing a lot of productivity instead of gaining some. I've already detailed how it is in the tech (specifically coding) space.

Which is why when those internet theses are posted and generate hype through virality, I tend to see them as to serving that purpose of hype through fear as opposed to being an oracle of the future.

I'm with you that I'm optimistic (is that the right word for possible society disruption and dystopia? ) the tech can do what is being hypothesized.

The question is whether the speed of breakthrough is greater than the speed of spending.
 
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Not going to happen.
Can't you see the fakeness in the video you posted? It's has a jarring effect. People already hate cgi-fests, filled with human faces filtered through the computer, but they still retain some semblance of realism compared with "ai" trying to mimic real human faces. It will always come short. The video you posted is deeply repulsive and most sane people will clamour for the return of authenticity. Youtube is already filled with movie-hating videos, just wait until we are flooded with low-tier fanfics by amateurs. Michael Bay movies will seem like masterpieces.
No, real movies with real actors and practical effects and limited cgi will still have a market.
There is a term for this. Its called “Uncanny Valley”.
 
This looks like a powerpoint telling me how awesome AI is, based on surveys. https://www.deloitte.com/content/da...services/consulting/2026/state-of-ai-2026.pdf

It reads like this (troll?) tweet:



I didn't see anything on Apps it can create or concrete examples.

Also Deloitte's credibility is pretty low from this scandal and really want to shine AI in the birghtest possible light: https://fortune.com/2025/11/25/delo...arch-million-dollar-report-canada-government/

I worked at a Big 4 and worked on publishing a few of these “thought leadership”. They’re essentially designed to be pie in the sky and catchy so that partners in the firm can open up a conversation with a client from C suite or dept heads to ultimately win implementation work.

Not saying their data in the ppt is bad or anything but its essentially sales material B2B corporates.
 
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Would you say his nutshell message is pretty accurate?

I’m not in tech at all but heck if ai can replace Indian jeets then great., but I’ll believe it when I see it

I used to code a long time ago. So my thoughts (and this goes with all service professions including programming) is that it will for sure hurt the entry level professions that are getting their foot in the door. With LLMs, if I'm an expert in a field, it saves me time but you still need an expert to make sure it's not giving you hallucinated outputs.

This is great for people who are already experts but sucks for noobies bc experts can own the work without hiring entry grunts

I've seen Indians taken on roles in managing the work (scrum, product management/owner, etc) so I doubt you can get rid of the experienced ones because they've been in there for a generation now. Maybe it'll stop the flood but I doubt it for the US. Corporations are still going to want the cheapest labor they can get away with in order to profitmax
 
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Do any of you actually work in coding or AI? Is this man actually correct in his nutshell assessment?


No, he is a retard using big words to sound like he knows what he is talking about.

The machine cannot "infer" what you need, hence why programming languages exist, so the programmer can be explicit with what the computer needs to accomplish and do. If you allow the machine to "infer" what you want, you will never get what you want.

Guys, "AI" has been a "thing" since the 50s - we've tried and tried again to talk to the computer in natural human language, COBOL being an obvious attempt and failure of this.

If "AI" wipes out programmers, then thinking is dead.

Edit: what hopefully gets replaced is 80iq level react apps/JS everywhere, overt complexity for complexities sake. I am all for that.
 
I work in STEM and use AI daily for my work. A year ago I practically didn't use it at all because it was nearly useless. Today, it basically does 60 to 70% of my work for me. I still need to provide the business context, the end goals, the data sources, etc. And I have to go back and revise a few things and challenge some of its assumptions. But it does a lot of the technical work and calculations for me.

That's a massive improvement in one year, the blink of an eye compared to all of human history. If it can improve that much in one year, imagine what it will be like 5 years from now. Sure it has major limitations and drawbacks but those are getting fewer and fewer every quarter.

If you work an office job and are not using AI today, I suggest you start. Get used to solving problems with it and understanding how to iterate. Because someone else will, and they'll be the one to take your job when a large part of the workforce becomes redundant.
 
That's a massive improvement in one year, the blink of an eye compared to all of human history. If it can improve that much in one year, imagine what it will be like 5 years from now.
Yeah, I'm not sure where all this "AI is over-hyped and can't do anything that would aid in the subjugation of the human form" is coming from when it is quite obviously (((It's))) intended purpose?

(((It's))) about deep fakes to get the human mind confused and in a state of disequilibrium via false narratives and deceptive "information," it's about ushering in a cashless society (((bitcoin/crypto))) and being able to track every expenditure a human makes and confiscate every last cent they have should they commit wrongthink, and it's about The Surveillance State and being able to pin point someone's exact location within seconds no matter how hard they try to hide from the all seeing eye of Big Brother.

Anyone who hasn't seen the first 20 minutes of Terminator 3 and the predictive programming introduction of "Skynet" should take a look. It's a very simple concept and not hard to understand (or build), so I'm not sure what the confusion is? (((It))) is already upon us like stink on sh*t, so if you're not believing your lying eyes, then take another look.

AI when merged with weaponized robotics will be the fall of human civilization as we know it if not stopped.

This is not something to take lightly.
 
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