Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence Thread

Caduceus · 2026-02-18T12:59:29-0600

scorpion said:
This is wild. Hollywood as we know it is a dead man walking. Even if AI technology fails to spread into the rest of the society (unlikely), the fact that it will soon decentralize and democratize the creation of audiovisual media will have profound and far-reaching implications for society. The entire idea of movie stars will soon seem as antiquated as a gladiators, and the massive cultural influence of film/TV will be open to independent creators. The fact that major movie and television production was, for decades, a carefully controlled realm guarded by an army of gatekeepers, will strike us as an unfortunate artifact of a more primitive time. There will soon be an indie revolution in movies/TV to rival what we've seen with music, YouTube, and computer games over the past decade (where in each of those spheres independent artists/producers have been creating content of much greater quality and originality than legacy studios).

To retain control of the official narrative, they will just put any AI movie or image making tool behind a very expensive paywall.
Problem solved (for them)

homersheineken · 2026-02-18T13:47:06-0600

scorpion said:
Here's a report from Deloitte:

The State of AI in the Enterprise - 2026 AI report

Explore the Deloitte AI Institute’s State of AI in the Enterprise report tracking AI investments, adoption, impacts on business, and challenges throughout 2025.

www.deloitte.com

This looks like a powerpoint telling me how awesome AI is, based on surveys. https://www.deloitte.com/content/da...services/consulting/2026/state-of-ai-2026.pdf

It reads like this (troll?) tweet:

I didn't see anything on Apps it can create or concrete examples.

Also Deloitte's credibility is pretty low from this scandal and really want to shine AI in the birghtest possible light: https://fortune.com/2025/11/25/delo...arch-million-dollar-report-canada-government/

scorpion · 2026-02-18T14:25:02-0600

homersheineken said:
I didn't see anything on Apps it can create or concrete examples.

You asked for something about enterprise AI use that didn't come from an AI company, I provided it. Now you say it's not technical enough. If you want something more technical, it's probably going to originate from someone involved with AI development, given that those people are the ones most intimately familiar with the technology and its potential uses. I've provided that, as well, but you say it's biased and can't be trusted. It seems that your mind is already made up on the topic.

Northumber · 2026-02-18T14:58:12-0600

Seedance 2.0 can recreate your voice with only a photo of you

The model reportedly demonstrated the ability to generate highly accurate personal voice characteristics using only facial images, even without user authorization.

uploading a personal facial photo caused the model to produce audio nearly identical to his real voice — without using any voice samples or authorized data.

ByteDance suspends Seedance 2.0 feature that turns facial photos into personal voices over potential risks · TechNode

Seedance 2.0, an AI video generation model developed by ByteDance, has recently gone viral in China but is now raising concerns over technical

technode.com

homersheineken · 2026-02-18T15:07:50-0600

scorpion said:
You asked for something about enterprise AI use that didn't come from an AI company, I provided it. Now you say it's not technical enough. If you want something more technical, it's probably going to originate from someone involved with AI development, given that those people are the ones most intimately familiar with the technology and its potential uses. I've provided that, as well, but you say it's biased and can't be trusted. It seems that your mind is already made up on the topic.

I didn't ask for "something", I asked for concrete examples. You haven't provided anything other than a powerpoint of survey responses from an ill-reputed consulting firm on AI who's trying to justify their $3B investment.

I work intimately with AI with work. It's not remotely close to what they are selling. It can copy code from elsewhere to build something simple (and they even get this wrong), but anything involving integration or complications fails miserably.

If you read my responses, my mind is not made up. I've stated repeatedly that it may be what they're saying.

However, I'm waiting to see evidence, real evidence.

It's interesting to see you believing the hype about this tech, but not Bitcoin (which I also agree with you about). I see the same type of techbros hyping HODL on AI. Just without concrete evidence.

homersheineken · 2026-02-18T15:09:34-0600

Northumber said:
Seedance 2.0 can recreate your voice with only a photo of you

ByteDance suspends Seedance 2.0 feature that turns facial photos into personal voices over potential risks · TechNode

Seedance 2.0, an AI video generation model developed by ByteDance, has recently gone viral in China but is now raising concerns over technical

technode.com

Reminds of those old "password strength websites", where you type in your password to see how strong it is and to not know what happens to it.

Northumber · 2026-02-18T15:46:50-0600

Whether we like it or not we're seeing a new art form with new artists

scorpion · 2026-02-18T17:56:42-0600

homersheineken said:
It's interesting to see you believing the hype about this tech, but not Bitcoin (which I also agree with you about). I see the same type of techbros hyping HODL on AI. Just without concrete evidence.

To be clear, I'm not an AI maximalist who thinks that AI is going to either create a utopia or bring about the end of the world. I simply think it is a highly powerful and disruptive technology that will ultimately impact society on at least a similar level as the internet. My basis for this belief is not what you or others are able to use AI for today, but the breathtaking speed at which AI is becoming more powerful and competent. The videos I posted earlier of the first Will Smith spaghetti video (from just 2 years ago) versus what Seedance 2.0 can produce demonstrate this point very clearly and incontrovertibly. Bitcoin, in contrast, has been around for 17 years and still serves no purpose besides speculation. If Bitcoin had a similar adoption and power curve to AI, it would already be the world reserve currency and underpin the global economy. If Bitcoin disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, no one besides those who own and trade it would notice. The world would collectively shrug its shoulders. However, if AI suddenly disappeared - even having only really existed in the public mind for a few years - it would be a huge story (and perhaps a relief in many regards - but a big deal either way).

Blade Runner · 2026-02-18T20:23:42-0600

scorpion said:
However, if AI suddenly disappeared - even having only really existed in the public mind for a few years - it would be a huge story

There would likely be celebration.

You've got this all wrong, because you keep stumping for centralizations and arguments that increase propaganda and debasement (fiat and AI).

BTC has ~.95 r² to the power law described. Just so you know.

homersheineken · 2026-02-19T09:06:36-0600

scorpion said:
To be clear, I'm not an AI maximalist who thinks that AI is going to either create a utopia or bring about the end of the world. I simply think it is a highly powerful and disruptive technology that will ultimately impact society on at least a similar level as the internet. My basis for this belief is not what you or others are able to use AI for today, but the breathtaking speed at which AI is becoming more powerful and competent. The videos I posted earlier of the first Will Smith spaghetti video (from just 2 years ago) versus what Seedance 2.0 can produce demonstrate this point very clearly and incontrovertibly. Bitcoin, in contrast, has been around for 17 years and still serves no purpose besides speculation. If Bitcoin had a similar adoption and power curve to AI, it would already be the world reserve currency and underpin the global economy. If Bitcoin disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, no one besides those who own and trade it would notice. The world would collectively shrug its shoulders. However, if AI suddenly disappeared - even having only really existed in the public mind for a few years - it would be a huge story (and perhaps a relief in many regards - but a big deal either way).

Fair enough. AI in media creation has improved with greater alacrity. Although in the AI clips, you can see the CGI (thinking the Breaking Bad clip) that breaks the illusion. Many people won't see it however and are happy to blissfully consume.

In knowledge based professions it's been woefully lacking.

My wife is an attorney and her company has invested over $1B in AI and told the staff that they must use it. It invents (non-existand) case precedents to justify a legal argument. So in many situations it's losing a lot of productivity instead of gaining some. I've already detailed how it is in the tech (specifically coding) space.

Which is why when those internet theses are posted and generate hype through virality, I tend to see them as to serving that purpose of hype through fear as opposed to being an oracle of the future.

I'm with you that I'm optimistic (is that the right word for possible society disruption and dystopia? ) the tech can do what is being hypothesized.

The question is whether the speed of breakthrough is greater than the speed of spending.