As a musician this makes me feel very weird... It might be time to hang it up. I've often wondered what pop/rock music is, why I'm drawn to it, and why I've spent so much time trying to master it (originally it was to attract women and get laid)? It's beginning to seem like a demonically inspired adolescent obsession and a complete waste of time when AI can write a better song in 4 seconds than I can in an entire lifetime... or is this the intention of (((The Programmers)))? To breed a sense of defeat and demoralization?
Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence Thread
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@PurpleUrkel , as a fellow musician I think I can see where you're coming from, but I don't. It was creepy hearing AI replicate the Emo version of Kanye's most recent controversial banger. Mostly because it did, in fact, replicate my band's old guitarist's tone very well for the meme song. Hearing AI generate music is surreal in a demoralizing way, because its ability to replicate music drives home how well it can replicate any media. It will only get harder and harder to tell what's real and what's not on your screen, or through your speakers. But that's why this stuff is never to be taken too seriously, anyway. Nothing on the internet is ever really to be taken too seriously; we would be in a better world if more people approached the internet with this in mind. I dare say that goes for software like AI, too.
Pop/rock music is the current iteration of the musical conversation happening over generations. As anyone has an aptitude for certain things, people find themselves drawn to things they have an aptitude for. Or at least they spend time flailing their arms and making mistakes until they find the thing they have an aptitude for. Once you do, you're drawn to it for whatever reason that you can justify compels you.
I was with my old band mates a while back, talking about how music feels like it's all the same now since everything's been done before. But I argued that that's OK, because making music doesn't have to be about being original and taking music somewhere new, but simply about being authentic. The time spent making music with friends is time spent discovering the magic of manipulating what you hear. And maybe even making bonds with your fellow musicians that can last a lifetime. You do it long enough and you become music, so to speak. Maybe you wanted to attract the opposite sex, too, there is a reason why the "love song" is an age-old and timeless trope, after all. I was certainly glad to find that aspect of it once I was actually in a band and onstage, to be honest.
But music is a human thing, AI can't make it, it just replicates it the way it's replicating art right now, too. AI isn't conscious, so it doesn't feel something genuine worth expressing by way of carefully crafting a manipulation of pigment, graphite, or sound. AI is just a program thing on a computer, not a genuine conduit for the beauty of art with an authentic soul. So the computer will be used to make even more music and bills are even harder to pay for the average musician with their craft, what else is new? That was already mostly impossible for most of us, anyway. The time spent honing the craft of musicianship was time spent living an authentic human life, and that has meaning in and of itself because you actually experience it for yourself. Life isn't lived through a screen, it's lived through time spent doing something worthwhile, like making music with friends. A computer can't feel like us, so it can't really make music like us. It may replicate it, and replicate it well, but it will be men like us that carry on the torch when all this comes crashing down and people actually need to hire musicians again. And trust me, that last part will happen again, even if after our lifetimes. How did the first instrument ever get invented, anyway?
Pop/rock music is the current iteration of the musical conversation happening over generations. As anyone has an aptitude for certain things, people find themselves drawn to things they have an aptitude for. Or at least they spend time flailing their arms and making mistakes until they find the thing they have an aptitude for. Once you do, you're drawn to it for whatever reason that you can justify compels you.
I was with my old band mates a while back, talking about how music feels like it's all the same now since everything's been done before. But I argued that that's OK, because making music doesn't have to be about being original and taking music somewhere new, but simply about being authentic. The time spent making music with friends is time spent discovering the magic of manipulating what you hear. And maybe even making bonds with your fellow musicians that can last a lifetime. You do it long enough and you become music, so to speak. Maybe you wanted to attract the opposite sex, too, there is a reason why the "love song" is an age-old and timeless trope, after all. I was certainly glad to find that aspect of it once I was actually in a band and onstage, to be honest.
But music is a human thing, AI can't make it, it just replicates it the way it's replicating art right now, too. AI isn't conscious, so it doesn't feel something genuine worth expressing by way of carefully crafting a manipulation of pigment, graphite, or sound. AI is just a program thing on a computer, not a genuine conduit for the beauty of art with an authentic soul. So the computer will be used to make even more music and bills are even harder to pay for the average musician with their craft, what else is new? That was already mostly impossible for most of us, anyway. The time spent honing the craft of musicianship was time spent living an authentic human life, and that has meaning in and of itself because you actually experience it for yourself. Life isn't lived through a screen, it's lived through time spent doing something worthwhile, like making music with friends. A computer can't feel like us, so it can't really make music like us. It may replicate it, and replicate it well, but it will be men like us that carry on the torch when all this comes crashing down and people actually need to hire musicians again. And trust me, that last part will happen again, even if after our lifetimes. How did the first instrument ever get invented, anyway?