Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War







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It's interesting to read about all the potential machinations going on with this war. The Conservative Treehouse author believes it is really a war primarily by the intelligence agencies against Russia, which are in control of western governments:


All of the western government systems, the “new democracy” as it is called, stem from a radically different construct. The intelligence services control the government; the government does not control the intelligence services.

This kind of control by intelligence agencies would explain the psyops and various operations against the native populations. If they can keep people fighting each other within the various western governments, then ultimately they can keep pulling the levers behind the curtains. It would make sense from an intelligence agency perspective, to flood the voting blocs with massive third-world numbers and deflate the social safety nets for the native populations, ultimately lowering their standard of living and any potential cohesiveness of the masses to fight the octopus tentacles wrapped around their governments.

Putin knows this by experience with how they tried to carve up Russia's resources after the fall of the Soviet Union and I'm willing to bet he knows who is directly behind these operations.

The conflict in Ukraine exists because western intelligence services are controlling it. The reality is this “war” is not the Russian government -vs- the governments of various western nations in support of Ukraine. The true conflict is the western intelligence community vs the Russian government.

Vladimir Putin does not hate Americans. The Russian President hates the CIA.

...the government is not the real control agent and Putin together with Trump/Witkoff know this.

Vladimir Putin and Donald J Trump are mutually aligned entities in a fight against western intelligence services. That’s the core understanding that must be at the forefront of any review or intellectually honest analysis of what is taking place.

The more people wake up and realize that this is not a war between governments, but attempts by the IC to control everything, then the facade begins to fall apart.

The IC must retain the illusion that government is in control of geopolitical events, because if that control mask is dropped everything changes. And I do mean EVERYTHING.

Could this explain the rise of Christianity post-Covid? Is it that people know something is off, and they're searching for truth in a web of lies? That what evil meant for destruction, God has turned around for good? Isn't that what we are seeing with this war, that it is ultimately a spiritual one? Think of how aggressively Zelensky has hunted down the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, trying to shut down Christianity and set up counterfeits.

One interesting note in the article regards the pope (I'm not familiar with any theories around his demise):

[ps. If you really wanted to join me in the rabbit hole; and knowing how important this moment is to the control agents; meaning how much they needed to get back control after Trump threatened to walk away from the conflict; then please accept I am 50/50 on how Pope Francis died. Was it really a natural death or was it the result of the IC needing a geopolitical event -like a funeral- to bring all of the principal actors together.]

Food for thought in all of this.

(Mods, if this belongs in a different forum, please feel free to move it).
 

Total power move. Zelenskyy attempts to meet with Trump at Saint Peter‘s Basilica, but wanted President Macron there as well. Three chairs were set up when Trump arrived. Then he tells Macron to leave and that he’ll meet with Zelenskyy one on one. This is how you end the war,,.cut out those who want to keep it prolonged and deal with Zelenskyy and Putin directly.
 
Wild claims that Russian troops need to carry out a "de-Satanisation" of Ukraine because of a spread of the cult have been criticised as "false".

New remarks by a Russian politician that the Church of Satan has spread across Ukraine were described as "false" by the church, which said its members, who make up a tiny percentage of society, were not devil worshippers.

Instead, they are atheists using Satan "as a symbol of liberty, individualism, and self-fulfilment" while carrying out a "live and let live" approach to being part of society, he told Sky News.

They are believing the words of people who worship the Father of Lies.
 


They are believing the words of people who worship the Father of Lies.
Reminds me of when MSM said the Ukraine's swastikas were taken out of context.
 
It's interesting to read about all the potential machinations going on with this war. The Conservative Treehouse author believes it is really a war primarily by the intelligence agencies against Russia, which are in control of western governments:




This kind of control by intelligence agencies would explain the psyops and various operations against the native populations. If they can keep people fighting each other within the various western governments, then ultimately they can keep pulling the levers behind the curtains. It would make sense from an intelligence agency perspective, to flood the voting blocs with massive third-world numbers and deflate the social safety nets for the native populations, ultimately lowering their standard of living and any potential cohesiveness of the masses to fight the octopus tentacles wrapped around their governments.

Putin knows this by experience with how they tried to carve up Russia's resources after the fall of the Soviet Union and I'm willing to bet he knows who is directly behind these operations.





The more people wake up and realize that this is not a war between governments, but attempts by the IC to control everything, then the facade begins to fall apart.



Could this explain the rise of Christianity post-Covid? Is it that people know something is off, and they're searching for truth in a web of lies? That what evil meant for destruction, God has turned around for good? Isn't that what we are seeing with this war, that it is ultimately a spiritual one? Think of how aggressively Zelensky has hunted down the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, trying to shut down Christianity and set up counterfeits.

One interesting note in the article regards the pope (I'm not familiar with any theories around his demise):



Food for thought in all of this.

(Mods, if this belongs in a different forum, please feel free to move it).


Just now figuring this out?

RVF/CiC has this figured out before the conflict even began.
 

That commander must be receiving kickbacks from the war effort. Probably on a much smaller scale than the bigwigs. The bigwigs have probably each stacked $billions, and if the war ended today they already have generational wealth.

A lower level commander like this might be stacking $hundreds of thousands, and he wants time to keep stacking more, no matter how badly Ukraine loses the war in the process.
 
Ukrainian recent losses are now well above 10 to1 in favor of Russia.





People are profiting from the dead in the worst way in Ukraine:




I remember going at it with a bunch of Jews and boomers on another message board at the start of the war who were posting a daily tally of Russian losses saying the Ukrainians were slaughtering them, all total BS. They lost their minds and banned me from the thread because I wasn't saying to tactical nuke Russia, put American boots on the ground and send them all of our money and equipment. Now you go back to that thread and it's the same guys saying that the war needs to end.....idiots like that are the reason it was allowed to happen in the first place.
 

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko signed it late in the day Wednesday in Washington, after the US side demanded that all aspects on the table be agreed to by Kiev. Below are some known details of the landmark agreement via Axios:
  • The government-to-government agreement would establish a joint fund, with each country contributing 50% of the financing and future U.S. military assistance to Ukraine counting as a contribution to the fund.
  • The fund will be governed jointly and will have three U.S. members and three Ukrainian members on its board.
  • The money in the fund will be used for investments in the extraction of Ukraine's rare earth minerals, oil and gas. The revenue will be split 50/50.
  • Kachka said the agreement gives the U.S. preferential access to investments in any operator that extracts rare earths in Ukraine and the first right of refusal for such investments.
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This is hopefully advantageous to the US financially, but now it makes US possessions in Ukraine serve as a trip wire for the Russians. Russia will need to consider if they want to conquer any territories that now are supposedly under US control.

I would say this gives Trump leverage to help bring Russia to the peace table, if he can get the Ukraine to stand down.

If Ukraine will not stand down, and Russia continues their military offensive, then it will be interesting to see how these mineral resources are handled.
 
This is hopefully advantageous to the US financially, but now it makes US possessions in Ukraine serve as a trip wire for the Russians. Russia will need to consider if they want to conquer any territories that now are supposedly under US control.

I would say this gives Trump leverage to help bring Russia to the peace table, if he can get the Ukraine to stand down.

If Ukraine will not stand down, and Russia continues their military offensive, then it will be interesting to see how these mineral resources are handled.
Here is Russia's response.


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