Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War

Thomas More said:
It's almost like he's trying to go down in flames. Demanding NATO membership and boots on the ground? He's in no position at all to demand it. That ship has sailed.

If he refuses any viable exit plan, then he and Ukraine will go down the hard way
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Time for Trump to cut off the funding and weapons again. It's the only thing this midget understands
 
Another day closer to when these guys, maybe out of spite alone, realign with Russia. It'll be bad times for any Americans left there if/when it happens. Be it "back-stabbed" Ukrainians or guys pissed about being induced to kill their in-laws/cousins, there will be grudges settled the hard way. These attacks may well come to US soil (already suspected in the death of the Alex Jones Producer/Associate - no idea of the truth of that one case).
 




Europe Rules Out Easing Of Russian Sanctions, Killing Ceasefire Hopes
French President Emmanuel Macron is hosting nations in Paris who make up a 'coalition of the willing' in their continued support to Ukraine, and on Thursday he has announced that sanctions on Russia will not be lifted, as unanimously agreed to among participants.

The twenty-seven heads of mostly European states and governments represented there further agreed there will be no easing of sanctions in exchange for a Black Sea ceasefire.

A new Black Sea peace initiative was unveiled by Washington at the Riyadh talks, and agreed to by both warring parties as of Wednesday, and would see Russian food and agricultural sanctions lifted, as well as the reconnection of Russian agricultural banks to the international Swift payment system.

The Wall Street Journal's Yaroslav Trofimov points out that "The lifting of sanctions on banking, as demanded by Russia, cannot be done without European say so. Now what?"

Russia has said the naval ceasefire would only come into force after Washington lifts sanctions against its food and fertilizer trade. The energy and Black Sea ceasefires were first announced Tuesday.

There was already severe disagreement with Ukraine concerning its scope and implementation, but Moscow said it was willing to play ball. "In accordance with the agreement between the presidents of Russia and the United States, both sides have committed to implementing the Black Sea initiative," a Kremlin statement had announced, affirming the US-backed agreement.

"This initiative includes guaranteeing safe navigation in the Black Sea, refraining from the use of force, and prohibiting the use of commercial vessels for military purposes, while establishing appropriate control measures through inspections of such vessels."

But Ukraine on the same day had already accused Moscow of "lying" about the terms of the agreement: The Ukrainian defense ministry said the movement of Russian warships outside the "eastern part of the Black Sea" would be treated as a violation of the agreement, according to regional media.

Thus it seems both Kiev and Europe are setting up the Trump-backed partial ceasefire to fail before it even gets off the ground.

As for Macron, he said Thursday that while he welcomes the role of Presdient Trump in overseeing the peace talks, the stance of the 'coalition of the willing' remains clear. "fundamentally, to win peace, and to do this, we must place Ukraine in the best possible position to negotiate and ensure that the peace that will be negotiated will be solid and lasting," he said.

He charged that it remains Russia who is unwilling to abide by terms of the proposed ceasefires, and has been adding unacceptable conditions. The UK's Starmer too said in Paris that "There was absolute clarity that Russia is trying to delay [peace], is playing games, and we have to be absolutely clear about that.

The British prime minister also hailed "complete clarity that now is not the time for lifting of sanctions." He went so far to say "Quite the contrary, what we discussed is how we can increase sanctions to support the US initiative, to bring Russia to the table through further pressure from this group of countries."

"What came out was strong from the meeting was so many countries standing, as they’ve stood for over three years now, with Ukraine in this crucial moment for as long as it takes for" he said. This certainly pushes peace back further on the horizon - but at this point Moscow is probably OK with that, as its forces gobble up more territory. The longer this drags on, the worse the ground reality gets for the Ukrainian side.
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Cooper said:
^Same set of clowns taking the same group pictures year after year...
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Paid by my taxes.

Europe bureaucrats probably wants a bigger piece of Ukrainians assets. And are throwing a fit. They are not happy about the division made by US and Russia
 
Behind the scenes deals are happening between Russia and the USA !

Seems like in exchange for letting Russia keep all conquered territory in Ukraine, Putin has now publicly declared that Russia has no objections to the USA annexing Greenland, going even as far as explaining that the US claim to the island has sound historical foundations.

 
Caduceus said:
Behind the scenes deals are happening between Russia and the USA !

Seems like in exchange for letting Russia keep all conquered territory in Ukraine, Putin has now publicly declared that Russia has no objections to the USA annexing Greenland, going even as far as explaining that the US claim to the island has sound historical foundations.

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Didn't have that on my bingo card....
 
Caduceus said:
Behind the scenes deals are happening between Russia and the USA !

Seems like in exchange for letting Russia keep all conquered territory in Ukraine, Putin has now publicly declared that Russia has no objections to the USA annexing Greenland, going even as far as explaining that the US claim to the island has sound historical foundations.

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Putin is also trying to create more differences between Europe and America. Europe hates America from trying to take Greenland, the EU wants it for itself through Denmark. This is in Russia's interest, and personally I would like to see this happen as well.
 
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This jew will never end the war, he wants all of us to die....his goal is WWIII with only jews left standing. Luckily Trump and Putin are not that stupid, but perhaps the EU is.

He needs to be overthrown, I refuse to believe the majority of common Ukrainian people are that stupid just like I refused to believe the majority of common American people were stupid enough to support Biden.
 
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