Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War
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“...The two leaders shared the view that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel...”
Well, this is the easiest of concessions for Putin to give in order to make Trump happy.
"I get Ukraine, you get to please your zionist overlords".
What exactly did Ukrainians hope to achieve. Looks like despair to me
He's throwing Trump a bone, because he hasn't made any real concessions, while Trump cut off the weapons and intel spigot to Ukraine, even as a temporary move that was a powerful signal. Trump is also going to concede current territorial annexations, demilitarization and neutrality/no NATO for Ukraine, those are most of Putin's demands for a settlement. I would imagine that the return of seized Russian assets is another demand that Trump will comply with.
As to the 30 day ceasefire, Russia bombs Ukrainian energy infrastructure in large salvoes every few weeks as it is, and they had their last big wave only last week (see below). They're going to keep building up their missile inventory in those 30 days, and of course if Ukraine drones Russia proper, the Russians will be sure to break that ceasefire.
Russia launches devastating attack on Ukraine after Trump’s defence of Putin
Latest attacks came hours after Donald Trump said Vladimir Putin was ‘doing what anybody would do’
www.theguardian.com
One thing's for sure, the NAFO crowd is furious at this:
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Those are mainly PR-driven military campaigns, the goal is maintain their sagging morale, even at a great cost. The last ill-taken military incursion into Kursk cost the Ukrainian 70,000 casualties and over 350 tanks, including some of their best troops and materiel. They got some bragging rights for a month or two in return. Not a sustainable strategy in this war of attrition though, hence Trump's lucid attempts at closing this file before the Ukrainian military dam breaks.
Ukraine just launched drones at a Russian oil facility.
Trump will learn, embarrassingly, that he can't control Ukraine .mil decisions. He can only control resources provided. A guy has to start somewhere. Zelensky and Trump should be at even more odds now.
Putin will learn the same thing, and as such, he can't trust a "command decision" made by the prime benefactor. It was worth a try. That's it. He's been down this road.
Perhaps Putin's intent was simply to demonstrate to Trump the unruly nature of the/any Ukraine relationship.
The war will continue to its logical conclusion.
Putin will learn the same thing, and as such, he can't trust a "command decision" made by the prime benefactor. It was worth a try. That's it. He's been down this road.
Perhaps Putin's intent was simply to demonstrate to Trump the unruly nature of the/any Ukraine relationship.
The war will continue to its logical conclusion.
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"Trump is literally Hitler starting WW3" --CNN probably
Kremlin statement doesn’t mention Israel or Iran.
Telephone conversation with President of the United States Donald Trump
Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the United States Donald Trump.
en.kremlin.ru
Who is lying? And why?
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From the link you provided, read this specific part again:Kremlin statement doesn’t mention Israel or Iran.
Telephone conversation with President of the United States Donald Trump
Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the United States Donald Trump.
Who is lying? And why?
My bad. I searched for Israel and Iran and it didn´t made much sense for Russia to throw Iran under the bus. But it looks like they did. Slav(e)s gonna slave like the red bitches they are. Trump didn´t lie (incredible). Russia cucked. Business as usual. Bow to your jew masters slave red commies.
Ukraine-Russia war=Israel-Iran war. It´s the same war.
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He forgot to mention the dessert: american pie. And that is only Israel in the dining room. The rest are all servants. And the music the band is playing
Dumb red russkis slav(e)s are so retarded. No wonder jews (commies) took over that shithole. Only their women are worth saving.
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I take it to mean that September 10th is the deadline for them to make a decision. And the 90 days follow that as a grace period to give those who want time to leave.
The midget is back with more standup. There´s no opposition in Ukraine to shut the midget up?