Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War

[Ember]

Today marks 4 full YEARS since the war in Ukraine started.
Russia is still only at around 20% of Ukrainian territory conquered, as they were 3 years ago.

The territory argument is part of MSM propaganda. Russia is fighting a war of *attrition*, which it is winning massively. You only have to look at the ratio of bodies during exchanges to see this. The average is between 30:1 and 39:1.

The end of attrition wars usually come very suddenly, when one side has a total collapse. That will come this year, around summer time, following the Russian offensive that will start when the ground hardens.

Ukraine is on its last legs thanks to four years of heavy attrition. Russia by contrast has lost relatively few, and has several reserve armies not even deployed yet.

Once the collapse happens, Russia can take as little or as much territory as it wants with virtually no opposition.

Big arrow manoeuvre warfare comes at a heavy price, even if it goes well. The ratios are far more in favour of Russia with attrition warfare, and that is why they use it.

 

[Caduceus]

The territory argument is part of MSM propaganda. Russia is fighting a war of *attrition*, which it is winning massively. You only have to look at the ratio of bodies during exchanges to see this. The average is between 30:1 and 39:1.

The end of attrition wars usually come very suddenly, when one side has a total collapse. That will come this year, around summer time, following the Russian offensive that will start when the ground hardens.

Ukraine is on its last legs thanks to four years of heavy attrition. Russia by contrast has lost relatively few, and has several reserve armies not even deployed yet.

Once the collapse happens, Russia can take as little or as much territory as it wants with virtually no opposition.

I've been hearing this argument every February for the last 3 years.
Somehow the "Ukrainian collapse" never comes.
I'm not anti Russia by any means, but how many years can you push a prediction that never materializes.

 

[Ember]

I've been hearing this argument every February for the last 3 years.

I doubt that. Attrition of an army the size of Ukraine's does take several years, especially when they are using forced conscription. Just because the collapse has not happened yet, does not mean that it will not happen. It is just that it has not happened in a time period that you personally find agreeable.

 

[Caduceus]

I doubt that. Attrition of an army the size of Ukraine's does take several years, especially when they are using forced conscription. Just because the collapse has not happened yet, does not mean that it will not happen. It is just that it has not happened in a time period that you personally find agreeable.

With that sort of argument, you can continue the war for another 20 years.