Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War

Caduceus said:



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Typical European decision doing everything possible to antagonise Russia as much as possible.

Given that they don't stand a militarily, they opt for these pitiful forms of spite, like banning letters to Santa Claus or banning images of bears.

One day based historians will analyse the 2020s in utter disbelief. Their sources will be deemed unreliable when they relay the happenings of the pandemic, Muslim invasions, transgenderism and crazy nato sanctions.
 
Cooper said:
The Slava Ukraini crowd is boasting over an alleged capture of Kupyansk, not sure how valid that claim is, anyone following this?
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So they recaptured a city they never actually lost. Because despite official statements, Russian troops didn't have control over the entire city - they entered from the north and cleared the center, but ukrainians still held southern parts, as well as the adjacent suburbs, which allowed them to pour reinforcements into the city, while Russian command believing in their own false reports about the control over the entire city started to move their resources elsewhere. This allowed ukrainians to amass troops and counter, clearing the center and pushing northward, where fighting is still taking place. Not the first time something like this happens. Not even a year ago the same thing happened in Toretsk, where ukrainians kept raiding the city center weeks after Russians officially captured it.
 
Cooper said:
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This reply to the tweet you posted gives some good additional information. The reply shows after the original tweet.




Prince Nicholas’ great-grandfather was Tsar Nicholas ii’s first cousin.

After the Ritual Murders of Tsar Nicholas ii, His son Alexey, and His brother Michael in 1918, Prince Nicholas’ ancestor - Grand Duke Kirill (Tsar Nicholas ii’s first cousin) was next to inherit the Russian Imperial throne.

What makes the modern Prince Nicholas’ claim to the Russian throne unique, is that his parents & grand-parents never entered into morganatic marriages (this is of vital importance to Russian Imperial tradition).
All of his ancestors were royalty of the highest rank, and this important condition satisfied articles 36 and 188 of Tsar Paul’s Imperial succession laws.

Many of Prince Nicholas’ other addresses throughout the years carried similar patriotic & right-wing sentiments. Unfortunately, certain forces within Russia do not wish to raise the subject of “monarchy” due to it’s inherently antisemitic nature (as Tsar Nicholas ii never abolished the Pale of Settlement nor gave members of the Talmudic tribe equal-rights during His Holy reign).

This is the primary reason why monarchism is an unacceptable subject for modern quasi-Russian oligarchic elites. It is far-right, antisemitic, and frightening to the politicians who kiss the wailing wall & collaborate with Chabad Lubavitch.
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Thomas More said:
This reply to the tweet you posted gives some good additional information. The reply shows after the original tweet.

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That's very interesting. Russian monarchs were extremely consistent in their approach. Even Ivan The Terrible, who has the epitome of debauchery, was a patriot and contributed to the expansion of Russia and even made periodic efforts to honor Christianity.

My only question is, is the suggestion here that Russia should go back to being a monarchy or that there should just be some form of involvement of the monarchs?
 
Droughtmeat said:
That's very interesting. Russian monarchs were extremely consistent in their approach. Even Ivan The Terrible, who has the epitome of debauchery, was a patriot and contributed to the expansion of Russia and even made periodic efforts to honor Christianity.

My only question is, is the suggestion here that Russia should go back to being a monarchy or that there should just be some form of involvement of the monarchs?
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I don't know, but I assume that it is completely out of the question. The current government surely has no interest in this whatsoever, and I doubt any more than 10-20% of the population would find it appealing.

Even if you think the concept of monarchy is superior, the practical fact of the matter is that most kings are crappy rulers. It would only be beneficial if this prince were able to take power and rule effectively. Most monarchs are powerless now anyway, with a parliament and prime minister holding all government and political power, leaving the monarch as a mere figurehead. If so, what's the point of bringing back a Czar?
 
Thomas More said:
I don't know, but I assume that it is completely out of the question. The current government surely has no interest in this whatsoever, and I doubt any more than 10-20% of the population would find it appealing.

Even if you think the concept of monarchy is superior, the practical fact of the matter is that most kings are crappy rulers. It would only be beneficial if this prince were able to take power and rule effectively. Most monarchs are powerless now anyway, with a parliament and prime minister holding all government and political power, leaving the monarch as a mere figurehead. If so, what's the point of bringing back a Czar?
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True. Nicholas' son, who would be the heir to thrown in some years, was born and raised in the US. I'm not even sure if he speaks Russian. That would probably create more turmoil.

Russia actually built up a solid government where they have have multiple people who would be capable of leading the nation, unlike most non western aligned nations that have suffered immeasurably upon losing their leaders.
 
^Even if it's only, or mostly a ceremonial position, a Czar at the top of Russia would create a cultural pull in the right direction, towards a more socially conservative Christian nation. It would also mean that nouveau riche oligarchs would no longer at the top of the social and cultural order there.
 
Cooper said:
^Even if it's only, or mostly a ceremonial position, a Czar at the top of Russia would create a cultural pull in the right direction, towards a more socially conservative Christian nation. It would also mean that nouveau riche oligarchs would no longer at the top of the social and cultural order there.
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Which only means that if Russia really wanted God could give them a monarch.
 
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