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Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War

You still keep bringing up flat earth even though I said I don't believe in the Gleason model. You mistake someone doing intense research on a subject for believing in that subject 100%. I remain impartial to the facts, and open to debate what is debatable. Go read that thread again, or go read it apparently for the first time. I debunked it there because of the Celestial poles, but at the same time I was showing the mathematical errors and inconsistencies with what we're given for the Copernican model and the abnormalities of our understanding of "curvature". No I don't believe in your globular prison with exact dimensions spoon-fed to us all from birth, because of many points that have nothing to do with NASA but rather the study of non-newtonian mechanical physics, ancient astronomy, and claims from Biblical Scripture, which I have posted many times, something you don't seem to consider.

Interesting how accuse me of copy-pasting prose when many of your posts were copy-pasted directly from 911's old posts from RVF. The guy was known for red pilling people in fringe corners of the internet, and then one day, he just up and vanished. You display exorbitant gatekeeper behavior. I suspect you have the entire old RVF board archived while you had the opportunity to do so, but you could always be using twitter/X as a springboard. You can jump on the smear bandwagon here for my one mis-citation in this thread but at least I've never plagiarized another member's posts. It's petty to use dirt against someone, but you're inability to properly engage in a debate has exposed your own follies as much as my long-winded incessant tirades are immunizing those with short attention spans from learning something.

I write a lot because there is much to say, and too many people are too silent for their own good.

Reductionism doesn't work when the truth has to fight against overwhelming lies, but since you insist I will endeavor to do so to reach a point of understanding from your background. However because your comments are riddled with speculation and in some parts superstition, which is unfitting of a White mind, I must ask you, are you descended from Europeans? Do you have a family history that was living in mainland Europe and can provide testimony to life under the Third Reich or any other Fascist country that affects your bias? My grandparents were young adults living in different European countries at the time, so I have two different stories from that time, plus I have done my own amateur-style historical quest of visiting sites and tracking people down who experienced these times to discuss my inquiries. There is an understanding which comes with this that is both inherent in my kind, and both far removed if one such European has been brainwashed or does not desire full truth. If you are an American and brainwashed then you are much further removed from understanding these truths, no matter how many books you read or documentaries you watch. You don't internalize racial consciousness, and even if you did, you would have to learn how to keep that alive in conjunction with a spiritual consciousness centered around Christ.

As for the Luftwaffe question, the Me-262 would not have changed the outcome of the war overall, it would not have secured the Axis foreign oil fields, it's only use would have been as a deterrent for bombers. It is highly debatable whether that changing variable alone would have swung the outcome of the combined hatred and might of the world's three largest empires at the time coming down on one small country.

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It proves nothing about Hitler or his alleged decisions around it. Your argument is highly speculative and based on the off-handed comments of Galland. The testimony of one man on one singular condition is not sufficient enough to have determined the probably outcome of a war that had never been seen before with rapidly changing alliances, politics, and other consequences. I have provided you with logistics and numbers and priority of logistics and numbers which you do not factor into your argument.

People like you have an a priori bias against Hitler for personal reasons or investments, or you could be shilling for the establishment to keep the anti-"nazi" rhetoric alive. In this day and age, any time Whites gather for their interests or self-survival this farcical term is thrown at them by haters. You can't even have a nuanced discussion on Hitler without inserting emotional bias or false superstition into it.


One doesn't combine great charisma and oratory skills with any kind of mental retardation. If you can prove Hitler was behind every military blunder then cite them. Your false claim that he didn't lead a country through are easily debunked by looking at the multitude of successes in the six and a half years of peace before the enemies of Germany were able to inaugurate their little war. National Socialism worked, no matter how much you condemn it.

"The Great Accomplishments of National Socialism"


These people were living in an advanced civilization, even if for such a brief time, and Christ was central to the formation of this civilization. Without the Christian morality, and the faith in the Living God, they would not have succeeded in building something so great so quickly. You don't pull almost seven million people out of unemployment, build hundreds of thousands of homes, eradicate political parties and classes causing division in a people without a clear-cut intellect and iron will. It was a product of its time, and the world will likely never see anything as wondrous or miraculous as the recovery from Weimar ever again.

If you read the book, Living Water about Dr. Viktor Schauberger's experiments, He made an appeal for Hitler's 4-year plan in 1933. Hitler was the only leader to ever invest heavily into pursuing alternative free-energy solutions that we know of (Gaddafi potentially was), solutions which did work, but the larger implications of not only dethroning the central banking cartels but also the industrialists in bed with them was too great to ignore. They knew Germany was searching for alternative power to become truly independent of even the means of the judeo-masonic controlled industries.

Your jew-lover Putin is actively destroying Europe, he's another criminal-in-arms like any politician from China, the USA, England, and France and any other commie-friendly "Allied party" who reaped what they sowed. Any situation in Europe and Eurasia with NATO is moot because the entire world order set up after 1945 was completely dominated by the Rothschilds. They put certain systems in place to insure that they would never have to suffer another Hitlerian figure uprising to destroy them ever again. Case in point, Putin is using African mercenaries to torture White Ukrainians, but he gets a free pass because he outlawed sodomy just like the Arabs do. KGB Commie Putin would send every single one of us to jail for questioning the holohoax which undermines the entire framework he's propped up for modern-Russia.

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Your jew-lover Putin compared Christianity to communism in speeches, and his foreign policy is to rid the world of "Nazism," aka a smear word for anything White. It seems fitting since the Bolsheviks concocted the Holohoax that their successors would throw anyone denying it in prison, and ban all White Russian organizations. Exposing the Holohoax is punishable with prison sentences there, worse than cucked-western Europe. They killed the White Russian Crusader Tesak in a detention cell before a tribunal because he was hunting down pedophiles with connections to Putin. I don't know if you've seen Russia recently, a satanic force is swelling inside of it under the very nose of the Orthodox Church. White Russian girls as young as 14 are often in relationships and impregnated by mixed-race Asiatics, or African migrants. Putin is going full Kwanza and obsessed with mixing all the races. There are so many blacks in Russia it isn't even funny, it's reverting to it's Bolshevik past by their inability to denounce Stalinism or any of its heinous crimes and making their entire outlook on their country based on "V-day" instead of any other vastly more important holidays in Russia's Christian history like the uniting of the Rus tribes to repel the Mongol invasion. Instead, they celebrate their "victory" over the last resistance to the satanic jewish NWO. Your Putin institutes draconian military laws that has peasant White Russians dying and often committing suicide by grenade in their vests on the frontlines while muds defile their women back home. Nothing new under the sun from a jewish servant.

If you're not White, or if you are White but you are deracinated, then you won't understand these plights, and quite frankly, you never will be able to, and you can keep hissing "pagan aryanism" until the end of time but it's not going to stop Whites from collectivizing for their mutual survival, whether one calls them "nazi" or not. The term is losing it's efficacy on the more stronger-minded people now. Soon, no one who can make a difference will care what fecal smearing the hacks and the operatives fling at them.


Your logic is contrived, and ignorant of clear spiritual stances. Satan does not stand against satan. Occult does not stand against occult. Evil does not stand against evil, especially not in proportions of the scale of a World War. They burned a lot more than jewish porn in those book piles.

You don't ban pornography, usury, transgender research, homosexuality and all deviancy (which carried with it the death penalty, especially in the SS), you don't ban Pagan religions, Pagan texts, you don't ban all occult societies including Ariosophy, Theosophy, and Freemasonry, and still end up being part of them. You don't call out the satanic jews and their satanic forces and somehow end up in league with the devil. That's not how it works buddy. You're too short-sighted in the spiritual realm to understand these implications. If Pepe the frog makes you nervous then you are not the kind of firmly-rooted mind to be withstanding these kind of revelations of truth. You need to go out more, experience more vibrancy from your local invaders, more usury from your local bankers, and more degeneracy from your own corrupted people to understand the harsh reality of this fight, genetically and spiritually.

Franco held a requiem mass for Hitler when he died, as a fellow Catholic. Other Bishops did the same. I doubt any of them would have held it for a Pagan. So again, don't be lazy. Go read this paper, which is far more credible than jewish wikipedia:

https://archive.org/details/was-hitler-catholic-2nd-ed_202402/

(To everyone else reading this thread: this is the 3rd time I've posted this short book and he refuses to look at it)

You're conflating the symbol of the Swastika with that of reverence unto God, which is a fallacy. That jewpedia article on Ariosophy contains all the hallmarks of post-war propaganda which are blatant lies.

If the Swastika is a pagan symbol as you claim it to be, then why did Christians use it in the 1st century of persecution? Why is it all over the Catacombs of Rome dating from that time period? Why is it in hundreds of frescoes, carvings, and patterns all over Cathedrals and Churches? Why did Popes have it on their Mitres? Why do Bishops have it on their Sepulchers? Why is it all over the inside of the Hagia Sophia? Why did Tsarist Russia and Romania use it? You can't even answer these simple questions. You are ignorant of the wide-variety of Christian symbolism of the past two millennia. This ignorance makes you uncomfortable, so you resort to the pre-scripted post-war victor propaganda programming that you carry out every time you thrust the accusation of "aryan paganism". You're basically speaking lines that were written for you in 1945 meant to last until every White person has been destroyed. I've posted enough pictures of Christian usage of the Swastika, Hakenkreuz, Fylfot, Tetragammadion for you to look at, but you don't. Or you ignore them on purpose because these truths diverge from your reality.

Here is a Cross Slab from Barhobble dating to the 10th century, a site of Christian Worship:
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Celtic iconography had influences and symbolic tradition from the South. Both Saint Ninian and Saint Patrick were known to have strong connections with the continent and and by association the strong symbolic traditions arising from those early years of Christianity in Rome.

The Swastika was used in the American boy scouts for decades, as well as the 45th infantry division as late as 1941. This symbol was everywhere, it wasn't just German Nationalists using it for their government. It had been in use in Germany in that same style since 1870.

-It was used by the Latvian Air Force between 1918 and 1934.
-The Polish used it on their 21st and 22nd infantry divisions, and their anti-gas league.
-The British National War Savings Committee used is as their logo in WWI.
-It was used in Finland since 1918 as the Cross of Freedom. The jews don't want the White Europeans to have any freedom, they want them to be driven down into slavery and to be trampled upon by every gaggle of Heinz 57 blend of mystery meat golem.

For your information, the Swastika is not the same as the Sonnenrad. Artistic renditions can blend the two symbols together but they are not the same. The historical significance of the Sonnenrad is not a Norse pantheonic worship, it is another mystical or prophetic symbol which happens to carry the divine numbers surrounding Christ. Twelve arms around the one center, twelve apostles around the one Messiah. Much of early European symbols evolved from their true heritage and remembrance of God before they forgot Him and practiced pagan beliefs. There were many tales and symbols foretelling of the coming Savior in ancient times. Your interpretation of symbology is reversed, many symbols were taken from Israelite heritage and repurposed for pagan means. The prevalence and frequency of hooked crosses in Christian imagery, art, and architecture both Catholic and Orthodox, not some half-baked mushroom cult, is far too great to be a mere odd-inclusion.

The fact that you don't have an over-encompassing view of history to understand the symbology and resort to your Allied-victor and Strasserist brainwashing smears of "aryan paganism" shows you don't do your research, you just assume things based on superstition. This fear-based mentality is not of God, but something one would find in troglodytes, cave-dwellers, or Kashmiri atavists. It has no place in a world to the defense of the civilized Christian soul, which is being attacked on all sides by esoteric forces and vast legions of empty vessels of impulse, lest you be of service to them in destroying your own brethren, whether by your own accord or not.

You also don't understand the connotations behind the concept of Aryan, another word which has been heavily played with the last 79 years of captivity. The history of Christendom and the destiny of the Aryan peoples go hand in hand, they are not juxtaposed nor are they at odds with one another.

The symbol was racial, not pagan or anything related to a pantheon or deist system of belief. It heavily linked early German, Greek, and Indo-Iranian cultures, these cultures came from the same wellspring, the same progenitor lineages out of Dor, the tribe of Dan, and earlier Shemites post-flood pre-exodus. Therefore it's more absolute to say the symbol was something genetic in it's initial usage, as Chinese, Africans, Mesos, and sub-continental Indians would never have used it, and they are the ones who were essentially "appropriating" it for their own pagan beliefs. , much like they do everything else that was spawned by White minds.

There is no proof that the Swastika was ever placed higher than God or even on the same level of God by anyone in the National Socialist hierarchy. You just feverishly interpret these events according to a position of animosity and judaized repulsion. These millions of German men would go out and do their military processions, but they were all Christians, Church attendance was extremely high in National Socialist Germany. If they weren't out there marching in force, the Marxists would do their strut. The martial aspect of their military rituals were necessary to keep strength and unity in accord. There were spiritually-questionable people like Bormann and Rosenberg, but the first was killed before any information could be impartially extracted after the war (his "diary" is very suspect) and the latter was nowhere near as high up in the party as he was made out to be.

It's time you wake up. If you're not White then you need to reconnect with whatever race you are. Shed the village fear, or at least try to. While you are in this mortal coil your skin is your uniform, no matter if you bear a cross or not. Since you do bear the Cross, or claim to, you have no right to be ignorant of the racial realities which separate men for reasons ordained by no earthly authority.

You never mention Yagoda or Ehrenberg who were directly responsible for the deaths of millions of White Russian Christians, Ukrainians, Polish, Germans, and other Eastern Europeans, not Hitler. Your blaming Hitler is pathetic and infantile, and treacherous that you would ignore the murderers and blame the man who died defending those who were murdered. This claim is demonic and insulting to everyone who was raped to death or dismembered and gutted alive by Bolshevik hordes, and bombed into charred bits of flesh by criminal western bombers. The true criminals and their accursed offspring are still out there committing racial genocide to this very day, and on more than just the White race.

"Hitler's War - The Last Christian Crusade"


Here's what you or anyone else who posits this lame argument of "Hitler was responsible for destroying Germany" don't get:

"If Hitler had not come to power in 1933, there is more to consider than external Communist threats. There were 270,000 suicides the year prior. Germany was, in Berlin, the sin capital of the world, solely due to jewish entrepreneurs who ran the smut business, films, cabarets, and so on. It was also the dope capital for Europe. German Industry was virtually dead. The German welfare payments in the state of Thuringia were so incredibly high that they comprised 90% of that states budget.

Without Adolf Hitler, Germany would have died with a whimper in 1934 or 1935 and the world wouldn't have given a shit. Adolf Hitler saved Germany, and I am a child of Adolf Hitler's works. I would have never been born if my father had never gotten a job thanks to the genius of Adolf Hitler. Millions of other Germans would never have been born, who today, dump on Adolf Hitler. They deserve their miserable lives to this man who saved Germany and gave them work, bread, and honor, for at least twelve years. Germany did at least not live on its knees or crawl on its belly for twelve years, like it has done since Adolf Hitler's demise. At least he gave the Germans twelve years of liberation and freedom. To the question of the ten million or so Germans who died in the war, to defend the freedom of one hundred million people is sometimes expensive." - Ernst Zundel.


For as long as you blame Hitler and not the real criminals, you will never learn anything. As far as I'm concerned, it's tantamount to doing the jew's work, and thus the works of the devil, by inciting accusatory falsehoods or gatekeeping at such a controversial topic that if explored would unite more people than it currently divides.




This is really bad, on so many levels. The more you write (incredibly long post for a midday weekday post), the further you are sinking, terrible doubling down argumentation like how the swastika really is Christian because of some artifact somewhere over 1000 years ago, or about how Adolf Galland was a nobody.

Some of your takes though are above and beyond, like this here:
Your jew-lover Putin is actively destroying Europe, he's another criminal-in-arms like any politician .... Case in point, Putin is using African mercenaries to torture White Ukrainians

What kind of a fantasy is this?? Are you really that detached from reality?

I guess you have a certain sympathy for the Azov types, which is not surprising given the parallels with nazi Germany, who sacrificed their last teenager in a lost cause, just like the Banderists want to fight for Ursula and Blackrock to the last Ukrainian...

The stuff you advocate here is a bit out there:

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Yeah Russia is relying on Africans and Indians to defeat and "torture" poor white Ukies! BTW this is not only BS, but also 100% glowie. Do you think the banksters are rooting for Russia?? People like Nuland are completely obsessed with Russia, and completely freaking out about its renaissance as a Christian country. That is what this is all about.



If you want to root for the Nulands, Kagans, Blinkens, Litwaks, Kristol et al, you are very deeply misguided.
 
Slovakian PM shot and injured, just after he criticized the NATO expansion into Ukraine...:unsure:


If it was a pro-western, pro-ukrainian politician, who got shot we would be hearing about Russian assassins and the need to retaliate. But there's not a single word about a possible ukrainian plot - Slovakia is ruled by a 3 party coalition, which could break apart with Fico incapacitated and a new election may take place in the near future.
 
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Last week there were a series of more 1300 bomb threats to public schools all over Slovakia.

See here:

Those 1300 bomb threats 8 days ago was a globalist elite mafia style warning which apparently the Slovakian government didn't listen to.
Remember those African leaders who mysteriously died got killed when they refused coronavirus lockdowns between 2020 and 2022 ?

It's obvious Slovakia has refused some sort of faggot globohomo orders and are now being put into line the hard way.
Hungary's leader Orban will be watching this closely.

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A young woman was beaten after trying to film her boyfriend being kidnapped and conscripted into the Ukrainian army:



Stephen Bryen* writes that the Kharkov offensive is part of the demilitarization operation. In other words, the primary goal is not the capture of the city, but the further destruction of the Ukrainian army's ability to fight. They must reposition their forces, equipment, and logistics support, all of which opens it up to targeting by the Russians. Then they can attack along multiple fronts and the Ukraine will predictably keep dumping reserve troops in to get slaughtered.


There is a large Russian operation underway in Ukraine focused on the Kharkov area. At the same time, the Russians are also attacking elsewhere, primarily in Donbas but also in Zaphorize. The threat in the north has compelled Ukraine to pull troops deployed elsewhere, including Chasiv Yar, to try and hold the line in the Kharkov area.

There seems to be a strong conviction in NATO circles that Kharkov is the target. I am far less certain, and in fact, it seems to me that is not the objective.

Probably the opposite of whatever NATO thinks is correct.

The idea is to cause heavy casualties on the Ukrainian side and, if all goes according to plan, either to split Ukraine’s army into two, or disintegrate it altogether.

There are many indicators that Russia is having success in the ongoing operation.

The first is that the commander of Ukraine’s northern tier defense, Brigadier General Yuriy Halushkin, was fired by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on May 15 for his failure to properly organize the defenses in the Kharkov area. He was replaced by Major General Ihor Tantsyura.

By the way someone posted pictures of the former and current commander, and boy the replacement looks awfully young.

General Budanov, head of Ukrainian Military Intelligence has an odd admission:
“All of our forces are either here or in Chasiv Yar,” he said, referring to a Ukrainian stronghold about 120 miles farther south that Russian troops have assaulted in recent weeks. “I’ve used everything we have. Unfortunately, we don’t have anyone else in the reserves.”

The only reason to make such an admission is a) to trick your enemy or b) you really do have no more reserves and are at a breaking point, and are stating this as a final warning. I don't see the purpose of a) although the Ukrainians are doing a lot of things that don't make sense.

The second is that Ukraine’s defenses have not sufficed at all. Mostly it is digging deep trenches because there is little time to build cement bunkers. In any case, Russia is bringing in more flamethrowers and artillery to destroy the trenches.

The third point is that Ukrainian armor has not been effective.
Another Abrams and Leopard were destroyed this week. But most importantly, we have seen no positive results coming from the billions in western hardware; they simply haven't changed the battlefield significantly.
The fourth point is that a larger number of Ukrainian troops are being captured or are surrendering. For the most part, these are hardened fighters, not recent conscripts, so the surrenders are psychologically significant.

The fifth point is that at least two colonels in the palace protection force have been arrested and the head of Zelensky’s security team has been dismissed. Zelensky says they were planning to kill him and other high officials and he blamed the Russians.

The final point is Zelensky and his army now know that the West is not going to send in troops to save him or Ukraine.

*Full warning, the author has also shilled for the anti-chinese site Epoch Times and has a very questionable background.

My view is that he is a more practical, adult, "less deranged Zionist" like Henry Kissinger and is pointing out that the west is endangering Israeli interests by continuing to support this lost cause. He is being critical of NATO much in the way John Mearsheimer is being critical of the US--they want to save NATO, and the US, respectively.
 
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General Budanov, head of Ukrainian Military Intelligence has an odd admission:
https://archive.ph/jbS8E

Honestly, Ukraine could capture Moscow and take over half of Russia, and they will still be begging for more money and munitions. This is the most money they've ever made in the history of their country, they know that begging works, therefore, they will continue to do it no matter how little sense it makes. Doesn't matter where the frontline is, they are going to beg.
 
This is really bad, on so many levels. The more you write (incredibly long post for a midday weekday post), the further you are sinking, terrible doubling down argumentation like how the swastika really is Christian because of some artifact somewhere over 1000 years ago, or about how Adolf Galland was a nobody.

Some of your takes though are above and beyond, like this here:


What kind of a fantasy is this?? Are you really that detached from reality?

I guess you have a certain sympathy for the Azov types, which is not surprising given the parallels with nazi Germany, who sacrificed their last teenager in a lost cause, just like the Banderists want to fight for Ursula and Blackrock to the last Ukrainian...

The stuff you advocate here is a bit out there:

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Yeah Russia is relying on Africans and Indians to defeat and "torture" poor white Ukies! BTW this is not only BS, but also 100% glowie. Do you think the banksters are rooting for Russia?? People like Nuland are completely obsessed with Russia, and completely freaking out about its renaissance as a Christian country. That is what this is all about.



If you want to root for the Nulands, Kagans, Blinkens, Litwaks, Kristol et al, you are very deeply misguided.

The entire war is jew puppets versus jew puppets. The whole point is to eradicate the White Slavs. Putin is in bed with Chabad Lubavitch. NATO is owned by Rothschild jews. It is only natural that the post-WW2 order of non-Christian minds would turn on each other soon enough. Everything at the top is theater. The only obstacle is the millions of White Slavs (a majority of whom happen to be Christian) living when they just want these people dead period. They are tired of the existence of Whites, whether those Whites bear a cross or not.

I don't hate Russians if that's what you are implying. I don't wish one side to "win / lose" in this false dialectic. I wish for the Russian people to not allow themselves to be used in this warmongering gambit the same way I wish for Ukraine and other European nations to rebel against the yolk of NATO, the EU, and the UN. What are obvious lies are Nazbolism/ Ziggerism/ Communism/ Duganism/ Putinism/ Trumpism and any other various jewish weltanschauung which use White Europeans as cannon fodder for their agendas.

Here's your proof right here, something you are too lazy to do. Your slave-mindset is 100% glowie-approved. Stay on your plantation and accept your inevitable fate in their world order under a mischling jackboot, or escape and see the bigger picture:

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No matter how you spin it, this is the Russian military using negro scholars to torture and murder White Ukrainians:



This is no different than the USA using blacks in their military and giving them free reign to rape and murder White Germans and Italians after WW2, Japanese after WW2, or Koreans in the 50s, or Vietnamese in the 70s, or Iraqis in the 2000s. Biological weapons always hand-rubbingly-picked by jewish architects of genetic destruction.

Azov doesn't get off the hook, they too are essentially a radical group used for jewish wars, using extreme lies and warped interpretations of National Socialist ideology that are only allowed under jewish dominion to keep Slavs with different ideologies in the grinder. They are obviously aware of the globohomo infiltration of their country, but are too simple-minded to understand the long-con of killing their brother Russians. The Russian soldiers on the other hand don't even know who Victoria Nudleman is, or any other jews in power as they are not allowed to speak out against this. Instead, the leaflets they are given are telling them they must go die to fight "nazism".

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It's not something to laugh about, you can find hundreds of obituaries of relatives of Russian servicemen who believe they went to their deaths fighting 'nazism'. Russia has to use the threat of 'nazism' to motivate a docile population to do anything, just as jews also use the fictional or otherwise threat of 'nazism' to motivate young jews to stick to the Talmudic teachings of the rabbis/sages. A people will always resemble their true masters eventually:

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Where are all the Orthodox Crosses that should be on these tanks?

Russia is obsessed with "nazis" which just proves they too are under a jewish spell. They can't even let nonagenarian expats live a decent life and are starting to act like the cucked post-war German government wanting to extradite people at the behest of their jewish masters for alleged crimes:

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Here's a Putin mouthpiece saying that suicide is encouraged among the Russian servicemen:



Is this something the Orthodox Church would support? The whole war stinks, and more White blood, nearly all Christian, is spilling on the earth while jews and non-Whites inherit the ruins and spread their decay. If you can't see that both sides of this are all puppets then you don't know enough.

The White Russians are dwindling in their own country thanks to Putin's aggressive multicultural policies. Look at their official twitter feed:

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Here are your new Russians, who are replacing the native Russians once more under sinister Bolshevik policies. If they were in their own country, there would be no problem here, but why are they in Russia?



I can see how it is difficult for you to assess anything complicated. What you call a piece of stone was part of an early Church. Pre-schism. There are hundreds of examples of Swastikas and Hooked Crosses in early Christian art and architecture, all pre-schism. It's usage by poo-eaters and other misled pagans does not subtract from its substantial use as a Christian symbol for almost two millennia!

You haven't answered my simple question. Are you a White European or are you descended from them? You don't seem to be capable of understanding the bigger picture, neither in the past nor in the present. Everything you say would be explained by an answer to this question.
 
The entire war is jew puppets versus jew puppets. The whole point is to eradicate the White Slavs. Putin is in bed with Chabad Lubavitch. NATO is owned by Rothschild jews. It is only natural that the post-WW2 order of non-Christian minds would turn on each other soon enough. Everything at the top is theater. The only obstacle is the millions of White Slavs (a majority of whom happen to be Christian) living when they just want these people dead period. They are tired of the existence of Whites, whether those Whites bear a cross or not.

I don't hate Russians if that's what you are implying. I don't wish one side to "win / lose" in this false dialectic. I wish for the Russian people to not allow themselves to be used in this warmongering gambit the same way I wish for Ukraine and other European nations to rebel against the yolk of NATO, the EU, and the UN. What are obvious lies are Nazbolism/ Ziggerism/ Communism/ Duganism/ Putinism/ Trumpism and any other various jewish weltanschauung which use White Europeans as cannon fodder for their agendas.

Here's your proof right here, something you are too lazy to do. Your slave-mindset is 100% glowie-approved. Stay on your plantation and accept your inevitable fate in their world order under a mischling jackboot, or escape and see the bigger picture:

russiannig.jpg


No matter how you spin it, this is the Russian military using negro scholars to torture and murder White Ukrainians:



This is no different than the USA using blacks in their military and giving them free reign to rape and murder White Germans and Italians after WW2, Japanese after WW2, or Koreans in the 50s, or Vietnamese in the 70s, or Iraqis in the 2000s. Biological weapons always hand-rubbingly-picked by jewish architects of genetic destruction.

Azov doesn't get off the hook, they too are essentially a radical group used for jewish wars, using extreme lies and warped interpretations of National Socialist ideology that are only allowed under jewish dominion to keep Slavs with different ideologies in the grinder. They are obviously aware of the globohomo infiltration of their country, but are too simple-minded to understand the long-con of killing their brother Russians. The Russian soldiers on the other hand don't even know who Victoria Nudleman is, or any other jews in power as they are not allowed to speak out against this. Instead, the leaflets they are given are telling them they must go die to fight "nazism".

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It's not something to laugh about, you can find hundreds of obituaries of relatives of Russian servicemen who believe they went to their deaths fighting 'nazism'. Russia has to use the threat of 'nazism' to motivate a docile population to do anything, just as jews also use the fictional or otherwise threat of 'nazism' to motivate young jews to stick to the Talmudic teachings of the rabbis/sages. A people will always resemble their true masters eventually:

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Where are all the Orthodox Crosses that should be on these tanks?

Russia is obsessed with "nazis" which just proves they too are under a jewish spell. They can't even let nonagenarian expats live a decent life and are starting to act like the cucked post-war German government wanting to extradite people at the behest of their jewish masters for alleged crimes:

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Here's a Putin mouthpiece saying that suicide is encouraged among the Russian servicemen:



Is this something the Orthodox Church would support? The whole war stinks, and more White blood, nearly all Christian, is spilling on the earth while jews and non-Whites inherit the ruins and spread their decay. If you can't see that both sides of this are all puppets then you don't know enough.

The White Russians are dwindling in their own country thanks to Putin's aggressive multicultural policies. Look at their official twitter feed:

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Here are your new Russians, who are replacing the native Russians once more under sinister Bolshevik policies. If they were in their own country, there would be no problem here, but why are they in Russia?



I can see how it is difficult for you to assess anything complicated. What you call a piece of stone was part of an early Church. Pre-schism. There are hundreds of examples of Swastikas and Hooked Crosses in early Christian art and architecture, all pre-schism. It's usage by poo-eaters and other misled pagans does not subtract from its substantial use as a Christian symbol for almost two millennia!

You haven't answered my simple question. Are you a White European or are you descended from them? You don't seem to be capable of understanding the bigger picture, neither in the past nor in the present. Everything you say would be explained by an answer to this question.



Keeping it real.
 
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Keeping it real.

That's it? You need to do more digging dude. You're barely scratching the surface of the festering pustule on civilization's backside.

Just because they don't bow down every day to israeli jews doesn't mean they don't bow down to Chabad. The Chabad in Russia want little to do with that parking lot in the desert, they like their upgraded Pale of Settlement existence and plan to keep it that way. Here's a recent headline:

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If Putin is not a puppet of the jews, then he is without any pressure whatsoever gladly wishing these satanic destroyers of nations and peoples all the best on their holiday (during which many European children have been ritually tortured and murdered by exsanguination throughout history). As a Christian there truly is no excusing this and many other words, deeds and laws that stem from this man.

He even admits that they make a "significant contribution to interethnic and interreligious dialogue," (jewish - muslim) and "actively participate in the education of youth," (with their phony WW2 narrative and glorification of Bolshevism). If jews are fostering a multi-cultural reality on your people, it is not for your own good. If jews are educating your kids, it's nothing but lies.

Any actual anti-jew leaders of history would never have dreamed of wishing these murderous children of satan anything other than a speedy exit out of Europe once and for all.

And even more recent:

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https://apnews.com/article/russia-cabinet-appointment-putin-5915b06308d722e17a875892a6d1bdb5

Another jew in charge with a history of tax collecting no doubt! But this is what he wants overall:

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There are endless other articles which circle-jerk this talmudic dalliance he has going on.

Let's keep it more even more real:

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This was yesterday. I told you they frame everything from this fake WW2 narrative. Here's the link:



I don't think you have the ability to see beyond the initial surface of these phony allegiances. Everywhere I look in Russia, its just like America. I see jew after jew after jew.

This new "Russia" serves the jews, not Christ. No nation that has anti-satanic laws can serve Christ. It has not been Russia going on for 107 years now.

Both sides of the Russian-Ukrainian war are controlled by top-tier jews whose children will never see a Palestinian rock thrown back at them, and whose parents and grandparents were never at the fictitious mercy of homicidal Aryan super-soldiers. These jews control Russia. They do this through their proxy organizations be it the Russian Federation's communist-lite government or the globohomo NATO and EU. The jews control it all!

The "Azovites" as you call them were spawned, funded, and scripted by jewish minds with the intent to use gentiles fooled into the ideology. They are low-life mercenary scum hired by the jews to wear edgy symbology and kill Russians and Ukrainian separatists. They are a "Neo-Nazi" façade, a veneer of a caricature of one of the jew's former defeated foes transplanted over jewish actions. They are most definitely not the Christian National Socialists of Germany, which is a complete opposite comparison for anyone to make. They are not even comparable to the original Ukrainian Nationalists of WW2. For as radical as people make Stepan Bandera out to be, none of us lived through any of Lenin's or Stalin's purges and famines to develop a rough violent personality as a means for survival to understand them. The channeling of a "Banderist" cause is pointless because the old Soviet Union was essentially dead, but what they are brining back on both sides now is a resurrection of these WW2 ideologies long after their time on earth had passed. Look at their faces, they're playing gods with human lives and can be as eccentric as they want, and they're enjoying it:

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It has always been the jews manufacturing a cartoonish inverted representation of National Socialism, Fascism, Nationalism, and Ultranationalism to be looked as strange and occult and backwards and evil. This is what they do. They do the same thing to the Church, to orders of Knights, orders of Monks, and all great Christian works through the ages. They bastardize and demonize anything that has ever been good.

The jews are playing with the lives of millions of Slavic men like they are digital units in a game, something like Command & Conquer or Age of Empires. This is the result of that:

[Video of one of the "sorting facilities" of Russian servicemen KIA. From here, "the heroes of the SMO," liquidated in the Ukraine, are boarded up in wooden coffins and sent to the far corners of Russia and Siberia]



This war is not about NATO vs Putin, it's about the top jews cleansing their racial enemies by fooling one people who have been divided along arbitrary lines into wiping each other out. Wake up.

I'm tired of seeing the destroyed bodies of White Russians and White Ukrainians. I pray for this war to end every day. It will only be done when the yoke of the jew is removed from both sides. Another poster said it in a thread somewhere, after 1945 this is a subhuman's world. We are just living in it.

More problems below.

This is not the Orthodox Tsarist Russia I dream of:



On the streets of Saint Petersburg and Moscow, the Mohammedans hold their prayers and sacrifice a sheep. The extremists have goals to subjugate the ethnic Russians. Putin is complicit in the plan to complete the extinction of ethnic Russians. "Russia needs about 50-70 million migrants" (aka Muslims) - the Chairman on the State Duma Committee on Nationalities Gadzhimet Safaraliev (also Muslim). The only thing Putin seeks to defend is the jewish tribe that rules Russia, not the Russian people. The Tsars and their Christian armies would be hunting these hordes down and expelling them en-masse from their sacred cities to the hinterlands in the very least.

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Russian men are getting blown to bits after being told they're dying to fight "nazis" while their home is flooding with these throwbacks and their women are whoring themselves out to these non-Russians no different than American or western European women. They are bigger fools than the American and British soldiers in WW2 who did not conceive of this deracinated and worse de-Christianized reality.

The WW2 narrative and holohoax is the sacred cow of this "Russian" state. This is what Russia does to truth-tellers, "don't you dare contradict anything that was said in the kangaroo Nuremberg trials which we pushed on the Allies to blame Germany for everything we did":

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This is what happens to people who criticize jews in Russia now:

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There are so many stories like this. Holohoax denial is now automatic 5 years in a Russian prison.

In Russia you have Bolshevism 2.0 - Eastern version. In America you have Bolshevism 2.0 - Western version. Pick your poison. Both nations and their proxies and satellites are all jewish toys now. We will be sent to kill each other because the jew desires it. If it changes its mind one day, then we wont, for that day.

You are trapped in a false dialectic once more. "If he doesn't root for Putin, he must root for Zelensky." That's not how it works when you're awake.

People can downvote my truths all they want, but to those of you out there who don't want to be replaced and exterminated, heed my warning and don't place your faith in any of these post-WW2 "world leader" jewish puppets who only have a grave for you in their plans, and following their plans is essentially digging it yourself.

This is not a black pill, but an awakening. The demons of the jews will not rest until every European has been wiped from the face of the Earth. So I tell everyone to stop supporting this or any other stupid war.

The true investigation needs to be done on Chabad's influence and finding its weakness. Many have been killed in recent times for merely attempting this.
 
This simply confirms the stalemate reality of this war.

Appointing an econ guy to head the military is to, ensure, for decades:

1. Keep costs down
2. Keep the army supplied
3. Keep the country rich through military conquest

Since Putin is recognizing that this war will continue for decades, the most important thing is economics. Not strategy or tactics. This is going to be a war of attrition, and making the army as lean and economically competitive as possible will be paramount. That is the only way to sustain military operations against the "West" for the next 25 years or more, much more, without going bankrupt.

All the predictions of this war ending soon have been wrong, and will continue to be wrong. Putin himself admits the stalemate reality with an econ minister appointment to the head of the Ministry of Defense.

Is there anyone left not on team stalemate? Does anyone seriously believe this war ends before 2040?
I've said this is a stalemate since day-10 of this war based on a military analysis and naturally the emotional reaction in RVF was off the charts.
The fact of the matter is, the Russian Army failed miserably to deliver a coup de grace in the first 10 days and now will have to live with perpetual war on its doorstep. A truly massive blunder on the operational, strategic and political level.
 
I've said this is a stalemate since day-10 of this war based on a military analysis and naturally the emotional reaction in RVF was off the charts.
The fact of the matter is, the Russian Army failed miserably to deliver a coup de grace in the first 10 days and now will have to live with perpetual war on its doorstep. A truly massive blunder on the operational, strategic and political level.
Wrong. They got a draught peace treaty negotiated and accepted by the Ukrainians at the Ankara peace summit. The West panicked and sent Boris Johnson to Kiev to order Zelensky not to sign it. The West scuppered the peace deal that the initial Russian operation had made possible, by scaring the Ukies to the negotiating table, and to draught sign it.

Boris Johnson, and his puppet-masters, are directly responsible for the failure of Zelensky to officially ratify the Ankara peace agreement, and for all the bloodshed that has followed. They got the Ukies to ask for the Russian troops to be pulled back from Kiev as a sign of goodwill, and then go back on the agreement by saying they would no longer sign it.

Sorry, KomenAI, but you got it wrong then, and you are still wrong now. The Russian move on Kiev achieved its goal of forcing the Ukies to the negotiating table and to agree a peace settlement. The Russians would not have been able to predict that the peace treaty would be dishonestly sabotaged by the West.

I'm talking generally now, but there is far too much bad logic around here, in the vein of, 'It ultimately failed, with bad consequences, so it was wrong to attempt it.' Where the moral justification hinges on the success of the endeavour. If Putin and Xi are defeated, and the Western Liberal NWO prevails, following the same lame logic, there will be people here saying they were wrong to try.
 
Boris Johnson, and his puppet-masters, are directly responsible for the failure of Zelensky to officially ratify the Ankara peace agreement, and for all the bloodshed that has followed.

Does Zelensky not have free will? Putin was a fool to trust a Talmud like Zelensky. If Russia had the chance, they needed to take over Kiev on day 1.

But I do not think Russia actually had the ability to do so, and was instead bluffing with the initial invasion to try and force a peace treaty. Zelensky called out the bluff, and Putin should have had a backup plan in case such a thing happened. That Putin did not account for treachery is a failure on his part, no matter how you slice it.
 
Does Zelensky not have free will?
He is Victoria Nuland's pick for leader of Ukraine and subject to enormous pressure from the US. So, when the chips are down, he is very limited as to what he can choose to do. Going against the US would likely result in his assassination, and he knows it.

Putin was a fool to trust a Talmud like Zelensky. If Russia had the chance, they needed to take over Kiev on day 1.

The deception and sabotage of the peace deal came from the US and Britain, not from Zelensky. He would have signed it if Boris Johnson had not flown out and ordered him, on behalf of the US, not to do it. Zelensky is a coward, and the Russians correctly decided that he could be intimated and force the Ukrainian leadership to negotiate a peace proposal. This happened. It had the draught signatures and was all set to be ratified.

But I do not think Russia actually had the ability to do so, and was instead bluffing with the initial invasion to try and force a peace treaty. Zelensky called out the bluff, and Putin should have had a backup plan in case such a thing happened.
I don't think that you can accurately predict that type of treachery from the UK and the US. Your expectation for Putin to know the future and foresee everything is not reasonable, at all. It is not that obvious. There was a lot of high-level diplomacy going on, with a lot of very smart people. And none of them were under the impression it was all going to be sabotaged.

It did not come from Zelensky anyway, he was simply leant on hard, and promised the world. All the arms, money, and support he would ever need if only he changed his mind and went along with the ruse to get the Russians to withdraw.


That Putin did not account for treachery is a failure on his part, no matter how you slice it.

You don't know what the Russians accounted for. Just because Plan A ultimately failed, does not mean they had no contingency plans. I can tell you that the Russians always have plans B to Z waiting in reserve. They plan for everything.



The Russians so nearly succeeded with the peace deal.

It would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives, and you are saying that they should not have tried it because of a chance it might be sabotaged. That is such a ridiculous position.

It was the best plan at the time, and even if it failed, there were others to fall back on.
 
I don't think that you can accurately predict that type of treachery from the UK and the US.

You kidding me? Especially the Russians, who were all too used to treachery from the US and UK during the Cold War, a KGB type like Putin should have seen it coming miles away.

Especially the same Putin, who in his speeches, spoke of:

- NATO breaking promises, over and over, expanding forever eastward
- NATO refusal to allow Russia to join
- US invasions of Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq on empty pretenses
- Color Revolution in Ukraine in 2014
- (Insert 100 other dirty Talmudic tricks by the USA)

You seriously are telling me Putin couldn't have seen treachery coming? That sounds like Putin was just failing hard, if he couldn't see it.
 
Wrong. They got a draught peace treaty negotiated and accepted by the Ukrainians at the Ankara peace summit. The West panicked and sent Boris Johnson to Kiev to order Zelensky not to sign it. The West scuppered the peace deal that the initial Russian operation had made possible, by scaring the Ukies to the negotiating table, and to draught sign it.

Boris Johnson, and his puppet-masters, are directly responsible for the failure of Zelensky to officially ratify the Ankara peace agreement, and for all the bloodshed that has followed. They got the Ukies to ask for the Russian troops to be pulled back from Kiev as a sign of goodwill, and then go back on the agreement by saying they would no longer sign it.

Sorry, KomenAI, but you got it wrong then, and you are still wrong now. The Russian move on Kiev achieved its goal of forcing the Ukies to the negotiating table and to agree a peace settlement. The Russians would not have been able to predict that the peace treaty would be dishonestly sabotaged by the West.

I'm talking generally now, but there is far too much bad logic around here, in the vein of, 'It ultimately failed, with bad consequences, so it was wrong to attempt it.' Where the moral justification hinges on the success of the endeavour. If Putin and Xi are defeated, and the Western Liberal NWO prevails, following the same lame logic, there will be people here saying they were wrong to try.
Ultimately no peace deal was signed. Misjudging and trusting western leaders is the political blunder I mentioned.
The western puppets didn't keep the Gorbachev-Reagan deal, didn't keep the Minsk deal, why did Putin trust them to keep ANY deals in the future?
Negotiating with them is futile. That's why a full all out operation was needed since day 1, not this half-arsed "special military operation" to bring about new negotiations that will ultimately not be kept anyway.
 
You kidding me? Especially the Russians, who were all too used to treachery from the US and UK during the Cold War, a KGB type like Putin should have seen it coming miles away.

Especially the same Putin, who in his speeches, spoke of:

- NATO breaking promises, over and over, expanding forever eastward
- NATO refusal to allow Russia to join
- US invasions of Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq on empty pretenses
- Color Revolution in Ukraine in 2014
- (Insert 100 other dirty Talmudic tricks by the USA)

You seriously are telling me Putin couldn't have seen treachery coming? That sounds like Putin was just failing hard, if he couldn't see it.
He would have weighed it up, and decided it was worth attempting, that there was a chance of sabotage, but perhaps not that much of a chance. . You are over-egging how obvious it would seem. Hindsight is 20/20. I bet at the time you were not saying that the Ankara peace deal was 100% guaranteed to be sabotaged. Too bad we can't check now.

With hundreds of thousands of lives on the line, Putin and the Russian leadership would have decided that it was very much worth a shot. And even if it did not work, there were other plans to fall back on.
 
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Ultimately no peace deal was signed. Misjudging and trusting western leaders is the political blunder I mentioned.
The western puppets didn't keep the Gorbachev-Reagan deal, didn't keep the Minsk deal, why did Putin trust them to keep ANY deals in the future?
Negotiating with them is futile. That's why a full all out operation was needed since day 1, not this half-arsed "special military operation" to bring about new negotiations that will ultimately not be kept anyway.

Keep in mind there's also a political calculus in play. Russia doesn't regard the opinion of the American public as relevant or material (ref: wikileaks cables on the topic). They DO place a lot of value on what various "neutral" nations like India and a lot of the African nations think.
 
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