Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

Wutang said:
I don't believe Israel had a complete internet shutdown. Rather they were just stopping people from taking pictures and they didn't want certain things to get online. I wouldn't put that in the same ballpark as having a complete nation wide shutdown. I actually don't even think any of this is really relevant to who ended up ahead in a military clash. Rather the important things is who was able to impose their will on the other and who was able to defend and in this case, it was Israel that was able to continually penetrate into Iran with aircraft, with assassinations, with agents while Iran wasn't able to defend against this or return in kind.

On the issue of third-world immigration on how it benefits Iran: you seem to be applying your IQ theory where a higher IQ country will inevitably take over a lower IQ country and turn everyone there into fertilizer. If this theory is true, then this should mean in the future Israel will be able take over the land of Iran and turn everyone into fertilizer in the same way they are doing in Gaza. In the past you've insisted that Iran has an average IQ over 100 based on an online IQ quiz site and from talking to one Iranian in the past - in other words from a weak source and from anecdotal experience. However, if you look at the actual research it has consistently shown Israeli IQ being higher and Iranian IQ being sub 90. These reports come from the same sources that you use when you are talking about how the US IQ is going to drop due to 80 IQ Africans and Hispanics and sub 90 IQ Indians taking over the country. If you are calling into the question these studies because you don't think they are reporting correctly on Iranian IQ then it also puts into question if this study should be trusted for it's reported IQs on Africans and Indians etc. which would completely undermine your fertilizer theory. Are you willing to take that step?

Your definition of "weird leftist" pretty much covers anyone who isn't a based online dissident guy which is 98% of the population which renders the definition useless. Also it is true that the left and far left is generally against NATO and war with Russia. Look at sites like the Intercept and hang out in online leftist spaces and you'll see they think the US and NATO are western imperialist aggressors trying to pick a fight with Russia.
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I have seen all sorts of IQ reports out of Israel and Iran. But, suffice to say, I don't think anyone here believes the Israelis are creative, tough, or warriors. They are cunning and deceiving, and that works great as long as you have an attack dog you can use at your discretion. Unfortunately for Israel, their attack dog is dying due to third world immigration, and the Israeli's appear to not be smart enough to realize it.

If you don't trust the IQ results for Africans, Mestizos or Indians, then my advice would be to step outside. Unless you don't even live in the west and don't come into contact with these people, then in that case, you should come visit and check out south side Chicago. Just go during the daytime and don't stop at any red lights if the intersection is clear.

My definition of a weirdo leftist is anyone still voting left-wing, thinking that more third world immigration, more DEI policies, more riots, less police, more crime, and some counseling will fix everything. That is a large chunk of the west though, right about 50%.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
If you don't trust the IQ results for Africans, Mestizos or Indians, then my advice would be to step outside. Unless you don't even live in the west and don't come into contact with these people, then in that case, you should come visit and check out south side Chicago. Just go during the daytime and don't stop at any red lights if the intersection is clear.
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I actually do think those IQ results are generally right. You seem to be the one that doubts these results since you believe Iran is capable of defeating Israel. My stance is the internally consistent one while yours isn't since you if you actually do believe in those IQ studies and if your fertilizer theory is correct, then your prediction should be that Israel will turn Iran into fertilizer at some point.

As for stepping outside, I would advise you to take your own advice first. See the world for yourself as opposed to relying on someone else to describe it to you in podcast form.
 
Wutang said:
I actually do think those IQ results are generally right. You seem to be the one that doubts these results since you believe Iran is capable of defeating Israel. My stance is the internally consistent one while yours isn't since you if you actually do believe in those IQ studies and if your fertilizer theory is correct, then your prediction should be that Israel will turn Iran into fertilizer at some point.

As for stepping outside, I would advise you to take your own advice first. See the world for yourself as opposed to relying on someone else to describe it to you in podcast form.
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Iran v. Israel, in a vacuum, without the entire west backing Israel? I give Israel a few weeks at best.

I have seen IQ studies that place Israel between 90 and 105, and the same for Iran. No one knows for sure which is accurate, but if you were to interact with people from these countries, you could tell IQ wise they are close. It isn't like the difference in Sub-Saharan Africans or Australia Aboriginals and first world people large and obvious difference.

If you can tell that African, Mestizo and Indian IQ's all lag, then why did you claim they may not in your prior post? This is a large inconsistency in your belief.
 
I thought the forum is in general agreement those groups tend to lag so there's no need for me to reiterate it. Being an high IQ Aryan yourself I thought you would have been able to detect the inconsistency in both thinking that a high IQ nation always takes the land of the the lower IQ nation and also thinking Iran will to conquer Israel at some point but I guess I overestimated your capability to reason.

For a source, here's a 2010 paper from Richard Lynn the author of Wealth of Nations and the most well known researcher on the average IQs of various nations. He's the go to guy for a lot when it comes to debates on IQ and it's effect on a country's development. You'll see him cited over and over again in the dissident right sphere online. He lists Iran's IQ as 84. Recall INMT has said over and over again that the doom of the US is due to the it being overtaken by countries from that have average IQ in the 80s. Here we have a country whose average IQ population is already in the 80s which means following IIMT's theory, they are soon to be reduced in the fertilizer in the near future.


I'm guessing IIMT's reply will be along the lines of "No I talked to an Iranian once and he didn't seem sub 100 IQ'. In other words, he'll be using his anecdotal evidence against an actual study. The blacks I meet in my career tend to be educated and well-spoken. Does my personal experience mean that I shouldn't believe that the average African IQ is at least a standard deviation from the average white IQ? Why should IIMT meeting an intelligent Iranian once in his life trump the studies on IQ differences between countries?
 
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