Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

The US State Department has ordered American citizens to urgently leave the Middle East by commercial means.



Damn...that's a whopping 14 different counties Americans are being told to evacuate.


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Asia and Oil in the Gulf

This is also why the decision to char the Macran Coast and take out the Iranian Navy is a big set back for Tehran, without their naval assets a partial blockade of the Strait of Hormuz is so much harder, even if they do manage to get a boat in open water they can't fuel it.

DC is betting on Beijing to restrain Tehran in imposing a full blockade. Changs should have enough leverage and Tehran doesn't want to tell their 'friends' that the Strait is now clogged and China just lost 20-25 percent of its oil imports with a ballooning price to boot. Proper assessment.
 
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Bannon and Macgregor ??
Does anyone take these windbags seriously on anything anymore ?
Macgregeor's track record for accuracy is atrocious, and Bannon always looks like a homeless unshaven overweight slob, who before 2020 was always hanging out with Epstein.
Yesterday Big Doug tweeted that the Iranian AF was not only contesting Iranian airspace, it was also engaged in bombing runs on Iraqi targets. With Russian jets that haven't even been delivered. Obviously none of this happened.

The ability of this man to just make shit up on the fly and then come back the next day and pretend that nothing has happened is unrivaled. At least in his comment section he was getting called out left and right, that's progress. The only people buying it were of the kind that maintained that a B2 bomber had been downed over Iran the day before.

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IRGC aligned media is producing truckloads of slopaganda and red meat themselves - examples ranging from AI produced satellite pictures, to ridiculous casualty claims to reposting video game snippets as proof. That discernment would furthermore lead to somewhat of a detox though, all a thirdworldist's fav go-to channels are pushing copious amounts of feel-good content

One example. Yesterday RussiaToday one on one copied Iranian regime propaganda on 560 dead and injured US servicemen in Bahrain alone - never mind the plausible deniability that was built in. This was then one on one copied by a wide network of foreign paid propaganda enablers from all backgrounds and angles. This is obviously a ploy to destabilize and influence the US public and thereby force the Trump Administration into backing off through public opinion - a craft perfected in the Vietnam War.

In the aftermath of the Soleimani assassination, Iran retaliated by launching a dozen missiles at Al Asad US base in Iraq, after warning the US ahead that it would be struck. That attack, with all the troops hiding in their bunkers, resulted in 110 traumatic brain injuries including several dozen soldiers with serious brain trauma.




So you can then imagine that with the missile count now already in the hundreds, as opposed to 12 in the attack above, the "IRGC slopaganda" estimate of 500+ casualties is a whole lot closer to reality than the official US count of 3 dead.
 
Bannon and Macgregor ??
Does anyone take these windbags seriously on anything anymore ?
Macgregeor's track record for accuracy is atrocious, and Bannon always looks like a homeless unshaven overweight slob, who before 2020 was always hanging out with Epstein.
Did you watch wahr Erik Prince said or are you just down voting because you are repulsed by Bannon? If the latter....Id expect more of you frankly. Not acknowledging Eric Prince as an absolute expert in this is pretty amateurish. He pretty much nails the challenges the admin is going to face with this current state of conflict.

On the MacGregor call ... I think he's correct ... Trump had false expectations...he was lied to.... And that this entire population is not going to overthrow the government. He's also right that logistics will be the decisive factor.

MacGregor has his own issues on Ukraine predictions but he's not wrong here.
 
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People here were claiming that Iran was stepping it up during the last days of the 12 day war and deploying their big bois and that's what was causing Israel to cry uncle and now they're trying to repeat the same thing about how it's US/Israel that's going to deplete their own stock first before Iran unleashes whatever secret weapon that they are saving for the right time. It's another example of how people can see things completely differently depending on their online diet. One person can see a building on Israel being on fire and think the entire city is gone but when they see the same thing only in Tehran and it has no effect on their perception of what's going on.

This whole perspective completely ignores a basic fact: if Israel wasn't suffering from the blows that they were getting from Iran, there is no way in hell they would have stopped bombing Iran.

Stone cold fact.
 
A simpler explanation for the stop is that Israel had managed to rope the US into sending those bombers to attack those nuclear sites and they decided to "take profit" and cash out their gains before coming back for more.

Also out of curiosity, do you think Iran is doing some sort of 4d chess right now and is intentionally sacrificing the ayatollah and other senior figures as well as their regular navy as some sort of rope and dope strategy to exhaust all US/Israel military resources and at some point they are finally going to unleash some sort of secret weapon we haven't seen that will win wipe out Israel once and for all?
 
This whole perspective completely ignores a basic fact: if Israel wasn't suffering from the blows that they were getting from Iran, there is no way in hell they would have stopped bombing Iran.

Stone cold fact.
There is.

They want America to be stuck in another long, painful war.

A war in which Christians die, in which Europeans are impoverished, in which hatred, confusion and emotions distract the public and allow them to weave more lies and do more evils.

Of course they would hold back against Iran and lie to Trump about how quickly the war would go, and how much they would help.

Afterall. Do remember. Islam worships Satan just as Talmudic Judaism does.

They both serve the same master.
 
In the aftermath of the Soleimani assassination, Iran retaliated by launching a dozen missiles at Al Asad US base in Iraq, after warning the US ahead that it would be struck. That attack, with all the troops hiding in their bunkers, resulted in 110 traumatic brain injuries including several dozen soldiers with serious brain trauma.




So you can then imagine that with the missile count now already in the hundreds, as opposed to 12 in the attack above, the "IRGC slopaganda" estimate of 500+ casualties is a whole lot closer to reality than the official US count of 3 dead.

The current US death toll stands at 6 and the felt need to artificially inflate enemy casualty numbers is a sign of weakness by bloviating+ posturing. Making dumb and easily debunked claims is par for the course in that part of the world anyway, the Middle East and Indian Subcontinent are the worst.

As for following ridiculous claims, yesterday Iranian state owned media outlet Mehr News (and others) claimed a Iranian missile had struck a US warship and uploaded video game footage to prove it, just silly stuff. They have since removed it.



 
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