Not talking about you specifically, but I notice that a lot of the MAGA/Trump crowd portrayed themselves as die-hard supporters of the US Constitution when Obama and Biden were in power. Back then the constitution was portrayed as a holy and infallible text.
But now that Trump is becoming ever more authoritarian and unconstitutional, the same crowd is saying that the Constitution is outdated and worthless. Now they want a strong man that ignores laws or makes the law up as he goes along.
This can and will backfire spectacularly.
First, Happy Easter (belatedly), He is Risen!
I haven’t had a lot of time to respond, so my apologies for the late reply.
As an American, I always considered myself a constitutionalist and advocated for a strict adherence to the Constitution as it is our founding document for our government and therefore the absolute law of the land. Th original document was fairly straightforward, albeit written in an older style of language, but the basic principles were easily understood by any commoner. If there was any dispute over what was intended, this is clarified by reading what the founders wrote at the time (eg Federalist Papers, etc).
Any deviation from the plain language and basic principles is a violation of the law. If this is done to intentionally subvert the plain intention of the founding law, which is a method of levying war against the American people, it is treason. Perhaps more on that later but hopefully we can agree that if a person or group commits an act intended specifically to do violence to a country’s founding principles, and the core population, it’s an act of war. It’s called sabotage.
The above being acknowledged, but notwithstanding, the Constitution has been sabotaged beyond recognition. Regardless of whether or not the modern “Constitution” itself is the result of sabotage or legitimate amendment, the result is the same. It doesn’t represent American interests.
The “Constitution” isn’t the same as when it was first implemented. It was implemented by and for a specific people, and to promote their best interests (to ourselves and our Posterity). Per John Jay, founder, first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and co-author of the anonymously published Federalist Papers:
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With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people--a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.
This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous, and alien sovereignties.”
There has been profound demographic change in the last century in this country, not discounting the disruptive changes to the overall composition of the country that occurred during the period of the Civil War. These changes in the past century or so are absolutely the result of sabotage and have now permanently altered the composition of the country. It is Americans residing amongst foreigners, people with vastly different backgrounds, religions, cultures, behaviors, and overall genetic composition and compatibility. This Constitution was not meant for them, and they’ll make that evident to you as if it wasn’t evident already.
The modern Constitution, as it stands, means nothing. This is because it is subject to numerous prior Amendments that do not align with the interests of Americans or observable reality and were implemented to satisfy the interests of the powerful elite (eg post-Civil War Amendments forced on the American people by cabal or the 19th Amendment, a “democratic victory for women” gained without a single female vote).
But more importantly, this is because of the deference to “case law,” an oxymoron by which judges decide “what the law is,” a standard implemented by the courts themselves. The actual government operates along the lines of the Talmud. Where rabbis have implemented endless interpretations of the Torah to suit their interests, so too have judges done the same with the Constitution. Hundreds of judges over the same span of years issuing tens of thousands of opinions, millions of pages, telling us that what the words of the Constitution say isn’t what they mean, and that we have a “living and breathing” governing document (to suit their evolving needs). Judges who can read the same exact words and come to completely opposite conclusions about the same exact issues, in different eras (eg Plessy v Ferguson and Brown v Board, about 56 years apart). In other words, we have a cartel of judges, and the Constitution is meaningless.
What the “Constitution” is nowadays is really just a reflection of the whims of corrupt courts, as you can see in the thread by that name. The Bill of Rights means nothing, if not being abused to allow rights for black criminals and foreigners. You have no freedom of speech that cannot be curtailed. If you think you have any gun rights you’re an idiot, these have been and will be curtailed at any time if you’re a member of a group that threatens the safety of the powers that oppress you. Due process is something other people have, but not you. You pay taxes based on the 16th Amendment, with little to no recourse through the bureaucracy, where an error is always in their favor. Abortion was a “absolute right” per the Supreme Court for 50 years, until the Supreme Court told you it wasn’t. You are ruled by women, the Civil Rights Act, and the Immigration Act of 1965. The government is not ruled by the Constitution.
Citizenship is a burden, not a privilege. You pay for the immigrants, their crimes, and then their lawyers. Because that’s what the courts say the Constitution demands. And if you commit the same crime, you can’t hide in the dark. You can’t just go back home, because this is your home.
You are stuck in the theoretical realm, where all these due process rights have meaning in respect to you. You think that if we can agree that this “US citizen” is treated like a foreigner, then it will open the door to us all being treated that way. To some extent the concern is still valid, and that’s why they’d do a test case with a contemptible person with whom you’d have little sympathy in order to gain traction to undermine your rights. But practically, while this person may be a citizen with a piece of paper saying so, is this person really an American? It’s a foreigner here to parasite off of you and I.
So what is the takeaway? My position is that the United States of America is not the Constitution, it is the American people. The country we now have is what the people who wrote the Constitution feared and hated. It is a fundamentally different “people” than “We the People.” They have different standards of justice, different ambitions and visions of governance, different understandings of what freedom is, what duty is, and different futures. What good is a Constitution if the governing bodies say it promotes the interests of foreigners over your own? To the autists, what good is the rule if the rule got you here?
What I’m actually advocating for is not the abrogation or disposal of the Constitution, but rather the implementation of it. It wasn’t a document written for our destruction. The revolutionaries who wrote it would have, themselves, fully supported the prejudicial treatment of anyone, especially in government, who sabotaged the Constitution or the American people. If the Constitution prevented that, they would have advocated for its destruction. How do I know? They said it themselves.
But aside from any sort of patriotic position, I’d like to think of mine as a Christian one. I don’t really care what kind of government we have so long as it serves the interests of God. I’m not caught up in this worldly authority and the Constitution isn’t my god.
The United States as it exists today is evil. Just as Satan used the words of God to tempt both Eve and Christ, taken out of context and twisted for his deceitful purposes, the judges and politicians do the same to the Constitution. How did Jesus respond to the devil? He correctly quoted scripture, to provide a proper context and rebuttal, and ultimately disregarded the devil’s malicious deception to proceed with obedience to the spirit of whole of the law.
I think with the current administration we have a fleeting window of opportunity, and wish they would do the same. We need a bold leader. I think what we have is a bunch of people who are in effect just squabbling over semantics with some rabbis, not someone who’s going to call them out for their treason, flip over their tables, and drive them out of the temple.
Could it backfire spectacularly? Of course, but then again isn’t that always a risk? If the American revolutionaries would have failed, they would have been executed and lost everything. Americans are afraid to risk anything, and that’s why they’ve almost lost everything.
Hopefully that makes some sense.