Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

[Blade Runner]

The part that I don't "agree" on with It is My Time is that the Biden and other admins are clearly more chaotic and objectively worse, EVEN if going in the same general direction. If you just think Trump was a breather anyway, how is more time not better?

That's where we generally don't see eye to eye. He can make his case for why a quicker demise would be better, but I used to think that, and it doesn't serve anyone. You still have to go to other countries for women, you still have to make money, etc - none of the "blow it all up" stuff helps anyone from our generation.

 

[Aldebaran]

Even if Trump meant well originally, his administration is by now completely captured by zionists and vulture capitalists that have only two interests:
1. Israel
2. Lining their own pockets

In that order. The turning point was when he kicked out Steve Bannon from his inner circle.

Trump is starting to really show his age. His monologues are pointless and rambling, and he repeats himself constantly. The reptiles around him have a pretty much free reign on things, as long as they tell him how awesome and fantastic he is.

Occasionally he throws his weight around, mainly when it comes to his beloved and ever-changing tariffs. But they will take that away from him soon enough if he creates real damage to their interests.

 

[HoaxWhisperer]

The part that I don't "agree" on with It is My Time is that the Biden and other admins are clearly more chaotic and objectively worse, EVEN if going in the same general direction. If you just think Trump was a breather anyway, how is more time not better?

That's where we generally don't see eye to eye. He can make his case for why a quicker demise would be better, but I used to think that, and it doesn't serve anyone. You still have to go to other countries for women, you still have to make money, etc - none of the "blow it all up" stuff helps anyone from our generation.

I would argue that the regime is giving us proles the illusion of a cultural shift and victory while actually going into overdrive against our interests. You have the DHS twitter account making posts that would fit in on /pol, meanwhile trump is explicitly shielding large corporations from deportation raids and working towards a mass amnesty bill.

Not to mention the unsurpassed funding and military support for israel, attempts to deny citizens FEMA aid over BDS support, and ever increasing "antisemitism" laws being proposed. Most of the high profile deportations have targeted people who were critical of israels ongoing genocide, and there is talk of revoking citizenship for "antisemites".

It's true the regime is less over-the-top, comically in your face woke. And the rhetoric often appears to have the sort of "racist dogwhistles" that leftists always shriek about. But the policies haven't changed to any substantial degree. Most of the executive orders were redundant, symbolic, or non-starters legally. There will not be any mass deportations, or consequences for the groups that brought or kept them here.

TLDR don't drink the koolaid. The trump admin is not here to save you, and they're not going to buy you any time.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

I'm curious on other's thoughts on this, but I suspect TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) is/was a psyop. I say this because when I looked into the origin of the term, there was a Bush Derangement Syndrome coined by Charles Krauthammer, raised by Orthodox Jews, and then an op-ed in 2015 was entitled 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' by an Esther Goldberg, a lawyer (and clearly a Jew given the name). I suspect the psyop was to create a bunch of useful idiots who could easily fall under this TDS label in order to deflect valid criticism of Trump and give the useful idiots on the right the prerogative to back him even more, against everything, because of how well the propaganda about TDS people solidified the 'liberals are crazy and evil' idea a lot of people on the right have.

I used to think TDS was a clever saying that seemed to describe the reality about a lot of people, such as you would find on reddit, facebook, and sometimes in real life, like my mother-in-law who drinks deeply from the waters of Canadian propaganda. Now I think there are layers to it, and while the coining of the phrase may be innocent, its originators make it suspect, and if Trump is basically an Israel First guy anyway, it feels even more suspect and evidence of a psyop.

This is exactly what he was created by the homosexual mafia tied in Roy Cohn to do. To be a chaos agent. He was created to drain the last of the White energy into a pointless scam, and the momentum for that is that he would 'own' the people who didn't like him. His "wins" by "owning the libs" is all a part of the design, it is the main component.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

The part that I don't "agree" on with It is My Time is that the Biden and other admins are clearly more chaotic and objectively worse, EVEN if going in the same general direction. If you just think Trump was a breather anyway, how is more time not better?

That's where we generally don't see eye to eye. He can make his case for why a quicker demise would be better, but I used to think that, and it doesn't serve anyone. You still have to go to other countries for women, you still have to make money, etc - none of the "blow it all up" stuff helps anyone from our generation.

How is he buying us more time if he is doing all the same things, but his people just appear to be more competent, to which they certainly are not?

He is just Biden all over, except for two things...

#1) Instead of Hispanics working manual labor jobs and staying in their ghettos, we get Indians who are up in our faces, destroying middle class jobs, and becoming extreme rude anti-Christian beasts, who drive the COL to unreasonable levels.

#2) Instead of Ukraine, eventually it will be Israel. And instead of selling weapons, it will be our boys being blown to pieces.

He is actually worse when looking at these two things.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

I would argue that the regime is giving us proles the illusion of a cultural shift and victory while actually going into overdrive against our interests. You have the DHS twitter account making posts that would fit in on /pol, meanwhile trump is explicitly shielding large corporations from deportation raids and working towards a mass amnesty bill.

Not to mention the unsurpassed funding and military support for israel, attempts to deny citizens FEMA aid over BDS support, and ever increasing "antisemitism" laws being proposed. Most of the high profile deportations have targeted people who were critical of israels ongoing genocide, and there is talk of revoking citizenship for "antisemites".

It's true the regime is less over-the-top, comically in your face woke. And the rhetoric often appears to have the sort of "racist dogwhistles" that leftists always shriek about. But the policies haven't changed to any substantial degree. Most of the executive orders were redundant, symbolic, or non-starters legally. There will not be any mass deportations, or consequences for the groups that brought or kept them here.

TLDR don't drink the koolaid. The trump admin is not here to save you, and they're not going to buy you any time.

Yes, this is spot on and correct.

One big thing for everyone to watch out for is Trump's team is about to pull a George Bush stunt. They are going to allow for anti-Muslim sentiment to grow by leaps and bounds. They need their White proles in the small towns and suburbs to sign up and fight for Israel, and to do so they have to give the fake image of Trump "winning" and that "Muslims must be stopped at all costs". You can see this playbook being used right now, and this is all so predictable.

Here are their paid bots spreading the message. It is all so predictable and fake, I can't believe people under 60 fall for this nonsense.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

I'm curious on other's thoughts on this, but I suspect TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) is/was a psyop. I say this because when I looked into the origin of the term, there was a Bush Derangement Syndrome coined by Charles Krauthammer, raised by Orthodox Jews, and then an op-ed in 2015 was entitled 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' by an Esther Goldberg, a lawyer (and clearly a Jew given the name). I suspect the psyop was to create a bunch of useful idiots who could easily fall under this TDS label in order to deflect valid criticism of Trump and give the useful idiots on the right the prerogative to back him even more, against everything, because of how well the propaganda about TDS people solidified the 'liberals are crazy and evil' idea a lot of people on the right have.

I used to think TDS was a clever saying that seemed to describe the reality about a lot of people, such as you would find on reddit, facebook, and sometimes in real life, like my mother-in-law who drinks deeply from the waters of Canadian propaganda. Now I think there are layers to it, and while the coining of the phrase may be innocent, its originators make it suspect, and if Trump is basically an Israel First guy anyway, it feels even more suspect and evidence of a psyop.

Makes sense. When you asked most right wingers what Trump was actually accomplishing, they couldn't tell you but they saw he pissed the liberals off so what the hell. They used TDS as a measuring stick for how much Trump was getting done. It's like a reverse two-minutes hate from 1984.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

In political parlance, "America is a Christian nation" = "America is an Israel-worshiping nation." It has nothing to do with Jesus Christ but everything to do with the nation of Israel.

 

[eradicator]

I think anyone who lives in either a city or decent size town can understand that fewer illegals, means fewer car accidents, it means less violent crime,

My only real question is, when or why did the left suddenly decide to make a push for more illegal aliens.? Because both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama had relatively aggressive deportations.. This only seem to start in the past few years with Joe Biden and his open borders policy.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

I think anyone who lives in either a city or decent size town can understand that fewer illegals, means fewer car accidents, it means less violent crime,

My only real question is, when or why did the left suddenly decide to make a push for more illegal aliens.? Because both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama had relatively aggressive deportations.. This only seem to start in the past few years with Joe Biden and his open borders policy.

We exchange Biden's illegals causing wrecks and killing people, with Trump's "more legal immigrants than ever before" driving 18 wheelers and killing families.

It is all tit for tat. I know it feels good to think things will get better, or we can vote our way out this, but it just isn't reality.

 

[Aldebaran]

My only real question is, when or why did the left suddenly decide to make a push for more illegal aliens.? Because both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama had relatively aggressive deportations.. This only seem to start in the past few years with Joe Biden and his open borders policy.

I'm thinking they did that because the powers behind the stage at that point had learned how to control Trump and use his narcissism and massive ego to their own benefit.

So they made sure that the Democrats became so utterly unelectable that Trump and the Republicans would win in a landslide, with people thinking they were voting for real change.

Soon enough the pendulum will swing back, and people will run to the Democrat party. And so the voting charade will continue.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

I thought one of the big criticisms somehow Trump was responsible for was the economy and the inability to buy a home by many.

Isn't the below a stark contrast to the Biden NeoCon Neolib idea of flooding the zone with foreigners when coupled with increase in deportations (whether by ICE or Self deportations)

 

[Psiman]

I'm curious on other's thoughts on this, but I suspect TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) is/was a psyop.

The media runs psy-ops like this as a matter of course. They have actors playing fools and these performances, at a bare minimum, propagate similar behaviors to a segment of the public. Between TDS and covid, we've seen the Democrat media jerk these chains to a degree I did not think possible.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

I thought one of the big criticisms somehow Trump was responsible for was the economy and the inability to buy a home by many.

Isn't the below a stark contrast to the Biden NeoCon Neolib idea of flooding the zone with foreigners when coupled with increase in deportations (whether by ICE or Self deportations)

As they say "talk is cheap" and Trump is as cheap as they come. Until this becomes real world results will I even consider giving him any credit.

 

[Blade Runner]

I would argue that the regime is giving us proles the illusion of a cultural shift and victory while actually going into overdrive against our interests. You have the DHS twitter account making posts that would fit in on /pol, meanwhile trump is explicitly shielding large corporations from deportation raids and working towards a mass amnesty bill.

I can see this as a general rule. Where there might be a change is the teaming with RFK right now (whistleblowers have exposed a conspiracy to dethrone him from CDC/health czar) to show that the Pfizer claims and data were total lies, literally within the last 24 hours. Will it just be lip service? We shall see.

and they're not going to buy you any time.

But they are. WAY more time for jobs, accumulating money/BTC, less taxes, less threatening policies and mandates, etc.

How is he buying us more time if he is doing all the same things, but his people just appear to be more competent, to which they certainly are not?

He's not. The time thing, if you all keep saying that, just shows you all to be emotional. The Biden presidency was a total boondoggle and didn't care 1 bit about anyone's future or freedom, in ways that can't even be compared. Let's be real here, come on now.

When you asked most right wingers what Trump was actually accomplishing

There are big lists of accomplishments, you know this. Do they matter, big picture and long term? No, I agree with that much, indeed.

In political parlance, "America is a Christian nation" = "America is an Israel-worshiping nation."

The people are 50-50 on that and waking up. But as for the politics/swamp/.gov and the Americans hooked to the entitlement juice, yes you are correct.

Being a fairly big protestant voice over here do you commonly talk about the Scofield agenda and lies about the nation currently called Israel?

 

[NSOE]

LOL, so much winning.

Unless they intend to study things like engineering, hard sciences, or medicine- they should be encouraged to come for the BS degrees and inject their money into college towns, supporting the schools' administrative jobs, local restaurants, food stores, entertainment venues- food inflation is more supply than demand driven. American kids must reexamine their plans, many degrees are just throwing good money down the rat hole. The college bubble was discussed here already. Skills can be obtained cheap.

but I suspect TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) is/was a psyop.

TDS is real in some plebeians, and Democrats use the mentally ill in demonstrations as foot soldiers, even deranged Jewish lesbians. Republican voters don't get off on those antics, they want criminals deported to El Salvador and watch the developments. Making waves, circuses, many communists, and other aspiring dictators were just psychopaths who didn't believe in their own lies, but it was a viable way of getting to the top to secure grift and seek rent, cement their positions, but even an idealistic leader and a true believer will attract a nefarious crowd of associates who are gonna be in it for themselves.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

Being a fairly big protestant voice over here do you commonly talk about the Scofield agenda and lies about the nation currently called Israel?

Governments have always used religion to push their agendas. This doesn't make the religions false per se, but it is an easy way to corral the multitudes. The right wing uses Dispensationalism (the Scofield agenda) to promote their Make Israel Great Again agenda. You will never hear a Republican espouse Calvinism (Covenant Theology) because it does nothing to promote MIGA. Even Trump converted from being a Presbyterian (a Calvinist denomination) to being a non-denominational Christian (usually a Dispensationalist). In the same way, the Orthobro movement is being monitored because it is an inroad by Russian intelligence.

 

[RedLagoon]

Yes, this is spot on and correct.

One big thing for everyone to watch out for is Trump's team is about to pull a George Bush stunt. They are going to allow for anti-Muslim sentiment to grow by leaps and bounds. They need their White proles in the small towns and suburbs to sign up and fight for Israel, and to do so they have to give the fake image of Trump "winning" and that "Muslims must be stopped at all costs". You can see this playbook being used right now, and this is all so predictable.

Here are their paid bots spreading the message. It is all so predictable and fake, I can't believe people under 60 fall for this nonsense.

Classy

Obvious plant is obvious.

 

[InspCallahan]

The real question is are we crazy or just plain naive to think that a New York Developer will counter or successfully challenge and Destroy the Judeo-Masonic Sayanim system that is solidy entrenched throughout all institutions?
That being said by using traditional political methods in a world that is still quite numb or oblivious to this Beast's existence?

Just pondering. Was there HDS. (Hitler Derangement Syndrome) back in the 30s? Because it sure picked up traction the last 50 years to new unprecedented levels!

 

[Get2choppaaa]

The real question is are we crazy or just plain naive to think that a New York Developer will counter or successfully challenge and Destroy the Judeo-Masonic Sayanim system that is solidy entrenched throughout all institutions?
That being said by using traditional political methods in a world that is still quite numb or oblivious to this Beast's existence?

Just pondering. Was there HDS. (Hitler Derangement Syndrome) back in the 30s? Because it sure picked up traction the last 50 years to new unprecedented levels!

I think incremental clawing back of some of the areas seeded to the left is what we are after. That's a more realistic reality.