Donald Trump and US expansionism in North America

[The Penitent Man]

I don't think it's something the "state" can fix. This is a cultural thing, divorcing or being childless should be taboo and shamed. That's how it is in my culture, on my dads side of the family I am the black sheep because I am the one that isn't married and yet and we don't have a single divorce because divorce isn't an option....mind you my dad has 10 siblings we have a massive family tree. When someone in my culture gets a divorce it's a massive shame to their family and they are afraid to ever show their faces in church.

It’s not something the state can fix, for sure. All with you there. Conversely, it is something the state can interfere in and massively screw up.

Marriage is a sacrament to be presided over by God and his church. We live in a place where the state has made the relations between man and woman its domain, to the exclusion of the above. To rectify that, we need to change the state.

Hopefully that makes sense.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

I wonder what the real numbers are.

 

[Blade Runner]

I don't think it's something the "state" can fix. This is a cultural thing, divorcing or being unmarried and childless should be taboo and shamed.

As Penitent said, the State has made or reinforced the bad culture, if you prefer. If one parent stands up for things, but the other rewards the bad acting kid, the partial taboo or shaming can lose out. And has (bad kid says, "so what? I've got my money/stuff, who cares").

Also, you wouldn't use a corrupted state by definition, in order to "fix" things. That's why we're all saying the same thing more or less, which is that the bad needs to go away, and something needs to take its place. Another way of saying this is creative destruction for the good - bad of course can fill that vacuum as well.

 

[TruckDriver9]

I wonder what the real numbers are.

Two different questions - independence vs joining the US.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

Two different questions - independence vs joining the US.

True, but independence has an extremely low chance of happening.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

It’s not something the state can fix, for sure. All with you there. Conversely, it is something the state can interfere in and massively screw up.

Marriage is a sacrament to be presided over by God and his church. We live in a place where the state has made the relations between man and woman its domain, to the exclusion of the above. To rectify that, we need to change the state.

Hopefully that makes sense.

As Penitent said, the State has made or reinforced the bad culture, if you prefer. If one parent stands up for things, but the other rewards the bad acting kid, the partial taboo or shaming can lose out. And has (bad kid says, "so what? I've got my money/stuff, who cares").

Also, you wouldn't use a corrupted state by definition, in order to "fix" things. That's why we're all saying the same thing more or less, which is that the bad needs to go away, and something needs to take its place. Another way of saying this is creative destruction for the good - bad of course can fill that vacuum as well.

The government really should mind its own business and not get involved in marriage in the first place. Faggots have pushed for “equal rights” in order to make same sex mirages a thing recognized in all states.

 

[FrancisK]

As Penitent said, the State has made or reinforced the bad culture, if you prefer. If one parent stands up for things, but the other rewards the bad acting kid, the partial taboo or shaming can lose out. And has (bad kid says, "so what? I've got my money/stuff, who cares").

Also, you wouldn't use a corrupted state by definition, in order to "fix" things. That's why we're all saying the same thing more or less, which is that the bad needs to go away, and something needs to take its place. Another way of saying this is creative destruction for the good - bad of course can fill that vacuum as well.

Well my family lives here in the USA and at this point most of them were also born here raised fully as Americans. So while sure I agree the state has encouraged bad behavior I don't think that is where it starts otherwise my family would have suffered from it as well.

 

[TruckDriver9]

True, but independence has an extremely low chance of happening.

From what I understand, Greenland has the right to declare independence secured in their deal with Denmark, and the idea is supported by local authorities, as well as the majority of the population. So unless Denmark intervenes, it can happen.

 

[Samseau]

There's obviously a lot more to standing up to the unjust marriage laws than what I wrote, but this isn't the thread to discuss such things. Some here are missing the point, the point was that Whites are not at some kind of critical "do or die" moment yet. Things are easily fixed with proper return to God and Christ under His most Holy Church.

 

[Caduceus]

From what I understand, Greenland has the right to declare independence secured in their deal with Denmark, and the idea is supported by local authorities, as well as the majority of the population. So unless Denmark intervenes, it can happen.

Independence means poverty for all of Greenland for the first 15 years or so, as all Danish subsidies will immediately be cut off, and until the extraction and sale of raw materials is set up, which takes time.

 

[larom]

Yes illiterate I am. But I do love the taste of crayons.


I was an Artillery Officer in the Marine Corps as recent as 6 years ago and I guarantee you, having deployed overseas and taught at the school house that I'm more knowledge able than you on this from deployment and first hand experience in fire support, fires planning, fires execution, targeting and served with multiple maneuver units.

Please don't lecture me as though I'm a neophyte sir. You're sundowners is coming out.

Unimpressive. Fancy way of saying, that at most, you sat in some fob or ship with hot water, pizza hut, electricity & had more comfort than most in your home town would. As you well know, Average Joe of all races in small town east TX knows far more dead people from drug overdoses & street violence than you ever did from "theater deployment" or whatever you call it. And we're supposed to respect you? We don't, Lol.

I won't discuss my profession/experience, suffice it to say You nor any marine you worked with with has any idea how to synthesize explosives or produce the "point & click" weapons you trained on. All you know how to do is point a tube & press a button Raytheon gives you.

Go watch prior US military kids your age on youtube who volunteer in the most active units in Ukraine (4th bat, chosen company, da vinci, etc) who've seen more combat & have higher kill counts than any living US Marine. Channels like Civ Div, Troy Offenbecker, Brandon TIBC, (there are many) etc & they'll all tell you that your GWOT experience is 100% irrelevant now days. Initially in Ukraine prior US military was viewed highly, integrated right in & started training people, nowadays you'd be treated as a civilian & have to relearn everything you know in basic & start from the bottom. Same in Russia.

The majority of the outdated garbage (aka "conventional weapons" you think are still relevant) Northrop, Boeing, etc (artillery/mortar shells, mines, grenades, etc) still mass produce & send to Ukraine has the explosives stripped out & is used for scrap metal for various robotics units & the Russians are doing the same with theirs.

Meanwhile, here's the US military saying what I'm saying here while training on DJI drones because they're too dumb to produce their own. Your new national military strategy is "copy Ukraine, buy from China" then hope for the best.

Your above comments about hydrocarbons being dead is directly contradictory to what the super majors are doing.

Like you literally don't know what you're talking. Go read the 30 year plans from CBC/BP/XOM/Shell ECT.

They are all forecasting hydrocarbon continued use over the next 50 years and there is not sufficient energy infrastructure to transition to alternative forms globally or US specifically.

Wrong again batman. Worked in both downstream and upstream. I worked refinery support for a period and am well aware of our refinery infrastructure. After that it's been upstream at global companies.

There will always be a demand for hydrocarbons just as there's a demand for cow dung & driftwood in some energy markets. It's doesn't mean it's hayday isn't long over. It'll be mostly used in poor countries (like USA) & there are much more profitable & efficient energy storage sources.

 

[TruckDriver9]

Independence means poverty for all of Greenland for the first 15 years or so, as all Danish subsidies will immediately be cut off, and until the extraction and sale of raw materials is set up, which takes time.

And that's where Uncle Sam can come in with an offer of "free association" similar to the one we have in the Pacific.

Compact of Free Association - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[FrancisK]

Unimpressive. Fancy way of saying, that at most, you sat in some fob or ship with hot water, pizza hut, electricity & had more comfort than most in your home town would. As you well know, Average Joe of all races in small town east TX knows far more dead people from drug overdoses & street violence than you ever did from "theater deployment" or whatever you call it. And we're supposed to respect you? We don't, Lol.

I won't discuss my profession/experience, suffice it to say You nor any marine you worked with with has any idea how to synthesize explosives or produce the "point & click" weapons you trained on. All you know how to do is point a tube & press a button Raytheon gives you.

Go watch prior US military kids your age on youtube who volunteer in the most active units in Ukraine (4th bat, chosen company, da vinci, etc) who've seen more combat & have higher kill counts than any living US Marine. Channels like Civ Div, Troy Offenbecker, Brandon TIBC, (there are many) etc & they'll all tell you that your GWOT experience is 100% irrelevant now days. Initially in Ukraine prior US military was viewed highly, integrated right in & started training people, nowadays you'd be treated as a civilian & have to relearn everything you know in basic & start from the bottom. Same in Russia.

The majority of the outdated garbage (aka "conventional weapons" you think are still relevant) Northrop, Boeing, etc (artillery/mortar shells, mines, grenades, etc) still mass produce & send to Ukraine has the explosives stripped out & is used for scrap metal for various robotics units & the Russians are doing the same with theirs.

Meanwhile, here's the US military saying what I'm saying here while training on DJI drones because they're too dumb to produce their own. Your new national military strategy is "copy Ukraine, buy from China" then hope for the best.



There will always be a demand for hydrocarbons just as there's a demand for cow dung & driftwood in some energy markets. It's doesn't mean it's hayday isn't long over. It'll be mostly used in poor countries (like USA) & there are much more profitable & efficient energy storage sources.

Who is "we" and who the hell are you? Speak for yourself and only yourself.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

Dude you're hilarious.

Unimpressive. Fancy way of saying, that at most, you sat in some fob or ship with hot water, pizza hut, electricity & had more comfort than most in your home town would. As you well know, Average Joe of all races in small town east TX knows far more dead people from drug overdoses & street violence than you ever did from "theater deployment" or whatever you call it. And we're supposed to respect you? We don't, Lol.

No idea what the hell this means. These are preposterous comments and I have zero idea how you're making generalization with zero knowledge about. You don't know anyone's military history here and you certainly don't need to be John Basilone or Audrey Murphy to understand the tools of the trade.

My point was that I do have experience with all the things you're saying are being made obsolete and for the scenario I described with taking out a shathead facility... Thats as cut and dry as it comes.

I couldn't give 2 wet tittie sprinkles if you respect my opinion... But to imply someone with actual experience is totally ignorant when you've learned your knowledge from a telegram is quite laughable.

I won't discuss my profession/experience, suffice it to say You nor any marine you worked with with has any idea how to synthesize explosives or produce the "point & click" weapons you trained on. All you know how to do is point a tube & press a button Raytheon gives you..

I don't have to invent Toilette paper to use it.

I won't tell you how I know, but I know you don't know anything about the explosives you are suggesting you can synthesize.

Go watch some pashtun kid make explosives by using 2.7g of donkey poop, 1 Quart of hot hashish tea, 3 oz of liquified smegma paste, a sock, 2 bottles of Sprite, a dog collar, a wheelbarrow handle, 14 grains of wheat, 9 drops of ammonia, 8 turtle doves and a partridge in a pair tree!

THEN TELL ME YOU KNOW HOW TO KABOOM!!!!

Go watch prior US military kids your age on youtube who volunteer in the most active units in Ukraine (4th bat, chosen company, da vinci, etc) who've seen more combat & have higher kill counts than any living US Marine. Channels like Civ Div, Troy Offenbecker, Brandon TIBC, (there are many) etc & they'll all tell you that your GWOT experience is 100% irrelevant now days. Initially in Ukraine prior US military was viewed highly, integrated right in & started training people, nowadays you'd be treated as a civilian & have to relearn everything you know in basic & start from the bottom. Same in Russia.

This is just wildly silly.

Go watch dudes get mowed down by drones and artillery? Why?

No one is disputing that warfare tactics change, but fundamentals don't.

The majority of the outdated garbage (aka "conventional weapons" you think are still relevant) Northrop, Boeing, etc (artillery/mortar shells, mines, grenades, etc) still mass produce & send to Ukraine has the explosives stripped out & is used for scrap metal for various robotics units & the Russians are doing the same with theirs.

Gee...I've sure seen a lot of armor, artillery, and rocket attacks . Those are all conventional weapons mr internet SME.

Meanwhile, here's the US military saying what I'm saying here while training on DJI drones because they're too dumb to produce their own. Your new national military strategy is "copy Ukraine, buy from China" then hope for the best.

I agree the squad level drone issue is something that is not going away.

I think the DJI Ban which will likely happen next year (was threaten this year ) will ensure more US production.

There will always be a demand for hydrocarbons just as there's a demand for cow dung & driftwood in some energy markets. It's doesn't mean it's hayday isn't long over. It'll be mostly used in poor countries (like USA) & there are much more profitable & efficient energy storage sources.

Name the more profitable and efficient energy sources sir.

Crude is still king and will be. Again the energy transition model that folks like Total and BP are banking on is highly contingent on The US and we aren't adopting it.

Look at the disaster of windfarms.

 

[Caduceus]

Dude you're hilarious.



No idea what the hell this means. These are preposterous comments and I have zero idea how you're making generalization with zero knowledge about. You don't know anyone's military history here and you certainly don't need to be John Basilone or Audrey Murphy to understand the tools of the trade.

My point was that I do have experience with all the things you're saying are being made obsolete and for the scenario I described with taking out a shathead facility... Thats as cut and dry as it comes.

I couldn't give 2 wet tittie sprinkles if you respect my opinion... But to imply someone with actual experience is totally ignorant when you've learned your knowledge from a telegram is quite laughable.


I don't have to invent Toilette paper to use it.

I won't tell you how I know, but I know you don't know anything about the explosives you are suggesting you can synthesize.

Go watch some pashtun kid make explosives by using 2.7g of donkey poop, 1 Quart of hot hashish tea, 3 oz of liquified smegma paste, a sock, 2 bottles of Sprite, a dog collar, a wheelbarrow handle, 14 grains of wheat, 9 drops of ammonia, 8 turtle doves and a partridge in a pair tree!

THEN TELL ME YOU KNOW HOW TO KABOOM!!!!



This is just wildly silly.

Go watch dudes get mowed down by drones and artillery? Why?

No one is disputing that warfare tactics change, but fundamentals don't.



Gee...I've sure seen a lot of armor, artillery, and rocket attacks . Those are all conventional weapons mr internet SME.


I agree the squad level drone issue is something that is not going away.

I think the DJI Ban which will likely happen next year (was threaten this year ) will ensure more US production.



Name the more profitable and efficient energy sources sir.

Crude is still king and will be. Again the energy transition model that folks like Total and BP are banking on is highly contingent on The US and we aren't adopting it.

Look at the disaster of windfarms.

Don't waste your time arguing with baby boomers.
Just point them towards the the nearest television set, and they'll quickly shut up.

 

[larom]

No idea what the hell this means. These are preposterous comments and I have zero idea how you're making generalization with zero knowledge about. You don't know anyone's military history here and you certainly don't need to be John Basilone or Audrey Murphy to understand the tools of the trade.

In Ukraine, Russia, Israel, etc you need skilled technical knowledge to operate any useful system. Nothing is point & click. Believe it or not, before the drugs became widespread & people like you thought it was normal to stick needles up their a$$ with chemicals everyday - marines would have their own radio networks that were very adaptable & folks as low a mid management were fairly smart. That was when the US was a real country. Now? Lol...

You've told me more than I need to know to know your military history & I know you, nor any post Vietnam marine, has any experience in anything signals or EW which is 90% of what modern combat is. All you know how to do is press buttons on increasingly irrelevant machines the big contractors give you & do weird sex stuff to arabs in places like Abu ghraib. That's all you idiots did for 20 yrs in the mid east.

I never claimed nor implied to be a chemist nor do I personally know anything about the production of explosives & neither do you nor any marine, which is my point. In any modern combat zone - it's common knowledge.

Gee...I've sure seen a lot of armor, artillery, and rocket attacks . Those are all conventional weapons mr internet SME.

Save that talk to impress soccer moms, rambo. I've seen that also a handful of times working & it's easily avoided & not particularly eventful when it's unguided. Tornados are a lot scarier.

I think the DJI Ban which will likely happen next year (was threaten this year ) will ensure more US production.

CBP has already been blocking DJI shipments since Oct '24.

Anyway folks, I'm quite sorry to spoil your Trump parade with the topic of American inferiority, your newfound status as a beans & rice country & why nothing you fantasize about will happen. I'll stop it. Let's talk about dem dam wemuns. Can you believe dem with the clothes they wear?!?!? Wit deir LIPSTICK!!!! THE HIGH HEELS!!! Make me SOOO mad!!! Amurican woman can take your money in court, did yalls know that?!? Man, its crazy its outta control & we gotta do sumthin bout it!!!! what we gon do?!?!? how i could call trump to fix it?

 

[KulturedKaveman]

They're certainly not doing well.

I don't know if you follow Vox Day, but he's brilliant with historical parallels and one of his most interesting is that Americans right now are about where the Plains Indians were in 1850. Another is that we're undergoing a Volkerwanderung (an overwhelming movement of foreigners into our empire) similar to what the Western Romans experienced in the last few centuries of the Empire, just on a much larger scale. Yet another of Vox's brilliant observations is that the further you allow multiculturalism and mass immigration to proceed, the more painful it is and the more violence and death is required to fix it.

To bring it back to Trump's expansionism, the attempts to control Greenland and Panama, and the bluffing (he's probably bluffing) about Canada, as well as the looming possible major wars with more powerful rivals further away like China and Iran, remind me of late Roman wars and attempts to expand their declining empire. Julian's failed invasion of Persia, Majorian's failed desperate attempt to reconquer North Africa, for example. It's still early to say whether Trump will fail as the late emperors of Western Rome did or maybe somehow be able to turn things around for us.

Except Majorian could’ve done it. There was just some epic bad luck in that story.

Truth is the best bet heritage America has at this point is to go full on American Indian. Become insular and form communities that you have to basically sacrifice to get into. Some examples - Orthodox Jews, the Amish and Mennonites, etc. Form insular communities.

 

[KulturedKaveman]

That’s any oxymoronic statement.

When a woman can divorce you and take your kids and all of your belongings, at any time and for any reason, with the full backing of the state’s “resources” to act coercively and violently, you aren’t going to be able to just “stand up” to an errant woman without some kind of force.

And when that same state will protect the woman’s bad behavior and throw you into prison and take away your kids and any rights you may think you have if you so much as raise your voice (yes, this can constitute domestic abuse if she claims she felt threatened - so can taking things away from her, calling her a name she doesn’t like, etc), let alone a fist, you aren’t going to be using any sort of force unless you plan on a last hurrah. And that would mean you lose your kids anyway (and they lose you), doesn’t it?

You aren’t going to politely argue a spoiled and delusional Western woman into submission with assertiveness and good points, or a display of gentle, Christlike humility for that matter. That’s like thinking you’re going to get little children to obey you with sound reasoning and rhetoric rather than discipline. In fact that’s how women think, which is why they hate it when anyone disciplines children. Because they are children, and children need discipline to mature into productive adults.

What scenario do you think is going to be a bigger motivation to a spoiled brat to behave?

A) “I can do whatever I want without any consequences but I really respect that guy so I guess I’ll do what he says;” or

B)”I really want to act out but I might wind up broke or in a dumpster?”

We’re all living in option A. Option B is what is referred to as “civilization.”

So we reverse that in a way that can make leftists jump on board. Getting rid of “no fault divorce” to fight climate change is a much easier pill to swallow. I could argue getting rid of it fights consumerism, fights climate change, and is better for children. It’s also a punch in the face to the millionaires and billionaires. If you have an intact stable family, you can give the finger to that boomer boss. It’s all how you market it.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

In Ukraine, Russia, Israel, etc you need skilled technical knowledge to operate any useful system. Nothing is point & click. Believe it or not, before the drugs became widespread & people like you thought it was normal to stick needles up their a$$ with chemicals everyday - marines would have their own radio networks that were very adaptable & folks as low a mid management were fairly smart. That was when the US was a real country. Now? Lol...

ok ya got me. I don't know anything about coms plans... Or programming radios... Or satellite communications ... Or setting up comms plans.


Nevermind that I did teach it to observers and joint fired observers as a certified and qualified instructor for both Army, Marines and International students.

https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publications/MCWP%203-16%20Fire%20Support%20Coordination%20in%20the%20Ground%20Combat%20Element.pdf

https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publications/MCWP%203-16.6%20W%20Erratum%20%20Supporting%20Arms%20Observer,%20Spotter%20and%20Controller_1.pdf

But yeah radios... No fucking clue what those do.

I also have zero idea where this point and click thing you speak of comes from or what it means . But apparently you know more than I do.

You've told me more than I need to know to know your military history & I know you, nor any post Vietnam marine, has any experience in anything signals or EW which is 90% of what modern combat is. All you know how to do is press buttons on increasingly irrelevant machines the big contractors give you & do weird sex stuff to arabs in places like Abu ghraib. That's all you idiots did for 20 yrs in the mid east.

Yeah because we don't have sig int vehicles attached to Light Armored Recon battalions. Which is part of every Marine Expeditionary Unit.

Here's why the Marine Corps strapped a rare electronic warfare LAV to the deck of a warship

The Marine Corps is flexing its electronic warfare muscles.

taskandpurpose.com

WarWheels.Net- LAV-MEWSS/PIP Mobile Electronic Warfare Support System Index

LAV-MEWSS/PIP Mobile Electronic Warfare Support System Index

warwheels.net

Because there aren't SigInt Marine Battalions or anything

Radio Battalion - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I never claimed nor implied to be a chemist nor do I personally know anything about the production of explosives & neither do you nor any marine, which is my point. In any modern combat zone - it's common knowledge.

So the combat engineers who go to school on different types of explosives, DONT in fact know this?

Huh... That's news to me

Save that talk to impress soccer moms, rambo. I've seen that also a handful of times working & it's easily avoided & not particularly eventful when it's unguided. Tornados are a lot scarier.

What have you seen working? Guided munitions? Because those are still conventional weapons.

Even the Mach Jesus kinzals are Conventional weapons.

You completely missed the point I was making. If you look up the definition of Conventional Arms you will note it is defined as:

Conventional weaponry refers to weapons that are not weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). They are the most commonly used weapons in conflict and crime.

Conventional Arms – UNODA

disarmament.unoda.org

They include

Battle tanks
Armored combat vehicles
Combat aircraft
Attack helicopters
Warships
Missile and missile launchers
Landmines
Cluster munitions
Small arms and light weapons
Ammunition and artillery


You lack precision of language and thus an understanding.

You use the right tool for the job. But there will always be a place for all these tools.

CBP has already been blocking DJI shipments since Oct '24.

Anyway folks, I'm quite sorry to spoil your Trump parade with the topic of American inferiority, your newfound status as a beans & rice country & why nothing you fantasize about will happen. I'll stop it. Let's talk about dem dam wemuns. Can you believe dem with the clothes they wear?!?!? Wit deir LIPSTICK!!!! THE HIGH HEELS!!! Make me SOOO mad!!! Amurican woman can take your money in court, did yalls know that?!? Man, its crazy its outta control & we gotta do sumthin bout it!!!! what we gon do?!?!? how i could call trump to fix it?

Anyway... I appreciate the discourse. I think you're woefully misinformed and incorrect.

Its not my intent to insult you but these are all things that you're saying that I believe to be flat out wrong which is why Im pointing it out.

It's really quite hard to read what youre are saying with credibility and any authority and while I think there are some things we can agree on, there's a gross mischaracterization of events and it's clear you are very uniformed on warfare.

No one is saying Ukraine and Iraq etc are the same. But to imply there aren't translatable experiences is nonsense of the highest order.

Anyway... I'll bow out and stop derailing the thread .

 

[FrancisK]

In Ukraine, Russia, Israel, etc you need skilled technical knowledge to operate any useful system. Nothing is point & click. Believe it or not, before the drugs became widespread & people like you thought it was normal to stick needles up their a$$ with chemicals everyday - marines would have their own radio networks that were very adaptable & folks as low a mid management were fairly smart. That was when the US was a real country. Now? Lol...

You've told me more than I need to know to know your military history & I know you, nor any post Vietnam marine, has any experience in anything signals or EW which is 90% of what modern combat is. All you know how to do is press buttons on increasingly irrelevant machines the big contractors give you & do weird sex stuff to arabs in places like Abu ghraib. That's all you idiots did for 20 yrs in the mid east.

I never claimed nor implied to be a chemist nor do I personally know anything about the production of explosives & neither do you nor any marine, which is my point. In any modern combat zone - it's common knowledge.


Save that talk to impress soccer moms, rambo. I've seen that also a handful of times working & it's easily avoided & not particularly eventful when it's unguided. Tornados are a lot scarier.


CBP has already been blocking DJI shipments since Oct '24.

Anyway folks, I'm quite sorry to spoil your Trump parade with the topic of American inferiority, your newfound status as a beans & rice country & why nothing you fantasize about will happen. I'll stop it. Let's talk about dem dam wemuns. Can you believe dem with the clothes they wear?!?!? Wit deir LIPSTICK!!!! THE HIGH HEELS!!! Make me SOOO mad!!! Amurican woman can take your money in court, did yalls know that?!? Man, its crazy its outta control & we gotta do sumthin bout it!!!! what we gon do?!?!? how i could call trump to fix it?

I have my own issues with some of the common sentiments around here which I've voiced more than once. But if this is what you think of all of us and this is what you think this place represents then why are you here?