Few if any of those countries except maybe Argentina has suicide stats as reliable as the USA. I'm sure theirs are under-counted.
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Few if any of those countries except maybe Argentina has suicide stats as reliable as the USA. I'm sure theirs are under-counted.
Going back to the real estate discussion earlier, how much do you guys think fraud/scamming government programs has contributed to massive inflation of housing values?
For example, MSP values could easily be 2-3x market value with all of the extra money floating around from daycares and medical transportation....imagine if that's happening in the majority of major cities in America???
For example, MSP values could easily be 2-3x market value with all of the extra money floating around from daycares and medical transportation....imagine if that's happening in the majority of major cities in America???
The increase in property taxes is certainly tied to all the scams that suck down taxpayer money.
I think we need a bit more of those starter homes like those ones from the Levittstowns I posted a few pages back. Those houses were spartan and simple but they were also expandable. I live in an area that's economically stable and I've been seeing lots of residential construction but it's pretty much only for luxury condos and apartments.
You do realise that AI summary is useless if you don't check the sources yourself?
The first result it uses for the summary wasn't even about standard house sizes in any era. It's about space for storage on a page that has been deleted and seems to be the source for 1000 feet.
The others all seem to either have no citations (a Quora post), or be obviously false. (One claims peasants ate nothing but rye, bread and milk.)
For a demonstration of what Peasants actually ate, here's a link to excerpts from the medieval cookbook which is a great deal more varied than that.
As for housing size. Here's an actually trustworthy source. Note it states that animals would have been kept in a separate building.
How Did A Medieval House Look In Medieval Life?
The only surviving type of medieval house is the domain of the wealthy, but early sources provide clues on peasant dwellings
www.historyonthenet.com
Furthermore, many houses that still survive today were likely owned by peasants. They believed otherwise, but there's too many buildings left for them to have all belonged to wealthy merchants and nobility. Note that these buildings have lasted up to 700 years.
Peasant houses in Midland England - Current Archaeology
How the Black Death prompted a building boom It used to be thought that only high-class houses had survived from the Medieval period. Radiocarbon and tree-ring dating has now revealed that thousands of ordinary Medieval homes are still standing in the English Midlands, many incorporated into des...
archaeology.co.uk
The misconception that medieval peasants were uneducated, illiterate, poor and lived more difficult lives is propaganda created by the French Revolution.
The French Revolutionaries, who are the original leftwing due to sitting on King Louis' left, opposed all traditionalism and created the prototype of the march of progressivism. Not only did they attempt to change many factors of life, but they introduced concepts like a 10 hour day, slaughtered priesthood and clergy and were in stark opposition to all forms of traditionalism.
They were the antithesis to Conservatism and Fascism which holds that things in the past were of value and that we should respect and love our ancestors.
Peasants were not illiterate. Literacy rates were measured based on the ability to read Latin. This can be attributed to many things, like the common attempts by every nation in history since Christ's Holy Resurrection to imitate Rome, or that the Vulgate translation of the Bible was written in Latin.
The largest reason was even inside countries, different dialects were practically different languages. Heck, even today, England, Wales, Ireland and Scotland are less than a third the size of California yet they still have four different languages and countless regional accents.
The left of course has not had any reason to correct lies about the folly of Monarchism because Communism itself has had the best success overthrowing Monarchies, such as in Russia, Spain and China.
I can understand the difficulty to understand this as America considered the French Revolution a good thing due to the French aiding in their own revolution prior, however, the revolutionaries by all historical evidence were rich proto-communists who worked with Jews using the same disgusting means they use today.
I do not know how it is that myths of revolutionary innocence persists. Perhaps J.R.R. Tolkien has similar confusion about C.S. Lewis's refusal to notice the crimes and evil of the Spanish Communists against the Spanish Monarchy.
As some have said, when media talking heads say spreading "Democracy", they actually mean spreading Israel's Empire. By Israel's Empire, I of course mean Satans Empire.
Take the well known myth of Marie Antoinette telling peasants to eat cake. She was actually very well liked by peasantry and introduced numerous reforms for the lower classes. It was propaganda made up long after her death.
Did Marie-Antoinette Really Say “Let Them Eat Cake”? | Britannica
“Let them eat cake” is the most famous quote attributed to Marie-Antoinette, the queen of France during the French Revolution.
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Honestly, I find it telling that even in a forum like this where not a single person doubts the sentence, "The media has lied about nearly everything while I was alive, so they are lying about history as well", that so much misinformation persists.
History isn't being rewritten or erased. It already was.
It's hard to scam a jew bank to get a mortgage, those things you mentioned put money in the wrong peoples hands so I guess then in turn they could afford homes if that's what you mean. I want to talk bad about FHA loans but I feel like that helps Americans buy homes, it gives homes to people not investors although I am no expert on that.
I think @Wutang brings up a really interesting concept that gets overlooked. When is the last time you saw a new housing development that wasn't mini mansions or luxury condos? When is the last time you saw a newer development of starter homes? I feel like every development I've seen the past decade if not more has been higher end stuff, nobody builds affordable starter homes anymore. My family owns property in a semi rural industrial type area and across the street from us they are building a subdivision of little mansions, mind you the whole town is factory workers and farmers.
There is a somewhat affluent area about an hour from metro detroit where you're pretty much in the middle of nowhere, most people who live there have very long commutes to work or just in general to do anything outside of the house, I knew someone who lived in the area and driving an hour just to go to a decent restaurant was completely normal for them.....keep in mind these are not country people by any means they are suburban/city people who just wanted a big house cheap. They built these subdivisions of extravagant houses the whole area is filled with them they are half price of what you would pay in metro detroit. So you moved out to the middle of nowhere to live in a subdivision 20ft away from your neighbor? If I'm moving to the middle of nowhere it better be for a giant plot of land where I can't see anyone from my mailbox but my horses, donkey and chickens. I know thats a different thing altogether but it's more to the point where the housing market is just very different now, if you don't want a mcmansion well then you're buying an old house because nobody builds starter homes anymore the developers wouldn't waste the land on it and they are inflated because it's all old inventory that hasn't been renewed.
You know now after typing that out and talking about inventory maybe FHA loans do contribute to it, that's a double edged sword there....
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In consideration, the greatest threat and the reason for the lefts dominance is not capture of the institutions or control of the culture.
It is fact that they have spent centuries rewriting history under Satans guiding hand.
If people did not arrogantly assume themselves better, richer and more successful than our ancestors we would not accept the proposition from Jews (Edomites):
"Your ancestors were uneducated and highly credulous, and thus their claims of Jews being evil Satan worshippers that murdered children are lies borne out of jealously and greed to steal their wealth, their reports of Witches just misogyny and greed to steal their property. Their tales of Demons, Werewolves, Dragons, Wildmen, Giants and UFOs simple cases of ignorance and stupidity."
The absolute basis of modern Jewry is for us to accept arrogance and hubris. The only means Saint Anthony the Great was told could defeat Satan was humility, and this holds true.
If you do not flaunt your ego over your own ancestors, if you do not treacherously look down on your own bloodline and those that handed to you what you have today, then the lies quickly become transparent.
For just as Satan became arrogant and abominable to God and then betrayed him in his hubris. If you accept the lies and poisoned compliments of modern Jewry, "you are smarter than your ancestors, you are taller than your ancestors, you are stronger than your ancestors, you are wiser than your ancestors." Then, the fruit of this same arrogance is treachery.
For, just as to imitate God results in Godly actions, imitating Satan results in Satanic actions.
The greatest achievement of modern Jewry is masking flattery and arrogance as "logic", "common sense", and "simple facts".
However, the very cultures modernity decries as "barbaric" for executing murderers and cutting off the hands of thieves created the very people and culture that allowed them to ever exist.
We're it not for wise Kings creating a high trust culture through killing off murderers, sociopaths and other traits that hindered a high trust society over thousands of years, modern society would never have existed. Yet we've utterly destroyed the high trust homogenous society they built over countless generations in less than a single century, and here we are, judging them as poorer and less well off than ourselves over lies taught to us by people that sacrificed their children to Satan every century or so.
Now those sane people are doing the same and blackmailing every politician and rich businessman to do the same, and we are doing... Well, not enough in my opinion.
I would argue that in pursuit of humility, one should consider them self lesser than both their ancestors and descendants, and thus all forms of leftwing thought I declare Anathema and of Satan, because all of them Universally describe every cultures ancestors as inferior and less developed. A uniquely arrogant and egocentric view that encourages ignoring the wisdom of our elders and promotes the naivety of children.
This thread is about the decline of functioning society.
I would point to the 14th century when a number after of philosophers including Jewish ones deconstructed Aristotle's work, including his beliefs that:
1. God exists
2. Objective reality exists
3. Humans need community to survive, we are social animals
4. Hierarchy
5. Potential things exist in an unrealised state where God can "push" them into reality. A bit like a piece of code God has written by not yet installed into the Universe.
William of Ockham: He attacked the Aristotelian idea that universal concepts (like "humanity" or "chair") exist in reality. Instead, he proposed that universals are only mental concepts or names (nomina), effectively dismantling the metaphysical foundations of Aristotelian substance-form philosophy.
Hasdai Crescas (c. 1340–1410) was a pivotal Jewish philosopher who launched a comprehensive, rigorous critique of Aristotelian physics and metaphysics in his work Or Hashem (The Light of the Lord). Aiming to defend traditional Judaism against the heavily Aristotelian interpretations of Maimonides, Crescas argued that many Aristotelian principles were not only non-rational but contradicted both Jewish theology and scientific empirical understanding.
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Key aspects of Crescas's critique of Aristotle include:
Rejection of Specific Physics Doctrines: He opposed Aristotle's views on the impossibility of a vacuum (arguing for its possibility), the denial of an infinite magnitude, and the necessity of a single, finite world.
Infinite Space and Time: Contrary to Aristotle, Crescas suggested that infinite space and even multiple worlds could exist.
Critique of Motion and Time: He challenged the Aristotelian definitions of motion and time, which were central to the philosophical proofs for the existence of God.
Theology over Philosophy: Crescas aimed to liberate Jewish theology from the constraints of Aristotelian natural philosophy, arguing that Scripture should not be interpreted to fit faulty scientific theories.
Influence: His critique was not merely traditionalist but, according to Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, was an early, significant challenge to Aristotelian science that predated and influenced modern scientific perspectives on space and infinity.
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His work in Or Hashem is seen as a crucial turning point in medieval Jewish philosophy, where he used philosophical rigor to dismantle the prevailing Aristotelian paradigm.
This was then followed by Oliver Cromwell who like Satan, rebelled against his own King. He was told by the Jews that the English were a Lost Tribe of Israel. He let them back into England as a result. This gave them their first foothold in Europe that they were able to hold onto indefinitely. In fact Lamarckism was invented to explain their Canaanite and Hittite features being so different from Israelite features which back then were know to resemble Europeans.
I would say that without these essential pillars, respect for ones Ancestors, knowledge of Jewish opposition to Aristotle's almost Christian Philosophical Arguments, and of Oliver Cromwell's mistake and the historical burial of the Jews telling the English they are a lost tribe of Israel.
Without these three Swords, one is unequipped to fight the lies of modern Jewry. With Faith in Christ your Sword is your love for God, but discarding the Swords he left for you is ungrateful.
But muh 1000000 square foot long house, lack of GMO food, and no immigrants bruh!
builds character, not pussies like we have today.
Uh, no. That one is false. You can pick out particulars from our time period and ancient periods but if you are generally comparing diets to the average modern diet it's the average modern diet that is absurdly poor. Oh, but they only had scraps of bread and porridge back then. That bread puts any of the industrial waste we call bread or food to shame. Most of the modern diet is entirely artificial and is itself the reason we need this vaunted medical system - to maintain some semblance of health.
again, builds character, not pussies.
Be careful with this, you do know there are modern versions of exactly the same thing?
I see you specified "neo" natal care. Not sure what you mean by that other than trying to fix a problem that didn't rampantly exist before having our hormones jacked by every new artificial thing in existence.
Let's also talk about modern "natal care". It's absurdly idiotic. Another great example of creating a problem that we then "solve". Why do you think most women's hormones are so messed up now that they turn to IVF? Big mystery. And the way we do birth? Pumping women full of pitocin to "guide along the birthing process" (oh, the doctor's on a schedule) and then freaking out when their contractions go crazy because of said pitocin. And, oh, you know what we need to do now that there's a meltdown?, lets jab her in the spine to paralyze her so she doesn't feel those out of control contractions from what we pumped her full of. Throw some narcotics in too. Oh, now she can't feel her lower body? oh crap, why can't she do this?, I guess now we just need to do a C-section. Yay medical science. Yeah, absolutely brilliant.
But no worry! I'm sure your medical technology saviors will soon free women from needing to carry their children at all! You can all have your kids grown in artificial amniotic pods. Are you all going to race to that technological marvel?
This is about the only thing you can defend, but still: see modern diet.
haha, no. I can't believe we think this is a good thing after covid. It all comes at a cost.
Jewish propaganda.
Haha this is all laughable.
We bake our own bread, have our own eggs and raise meat birds, grow a lot of our own produce, and our kids have plenty of character.
This is a lifestyle choice and most of the people on here saying how much better things were then would starve to death in the Medieval Ages.
For me.... I Will happily take my 21st century comfortable life with medicine and wealth over owning nothing , being hung for shooting the kings deer, and keeping pigs and chickens in the house.... And not having my children in the same room when it's time to give the old lady the business.
And I've built plenty of character growing up rurally, have lots of farm animals now, and have been to parts of the world where people live like serfs.
I find it laughable that here are suggesting things were better then.
You realize there are people in the world other than you and your precious family, do you?
also, the part about modern medicine
Hey I offered serfdom and apparently that was offensive! Planting season is right around the corner my Dad could use the help it's not too late the offer stands!
Let's lighten up I think it's just two different topics. One being that serfdom maybe wasn't as bad as history suggests and the other is the concept that someone would actually want to be someone's serf today and now. They don't have to be mutually exclusive....
Let's lighten up I think it's just two different topics. One being that serfdom maybe wasn't as bad as history suggests and the other is the concept that someone would actually want to be someone's serf today and now. They don't have to be mutually exclusive....
Geeeee that never occured to me that there were other human beings.You realize there are people in the world other than you and your precious family, do you?
also, the part about modern medicine
Thank you for your brilliant insight.
Yeah in life saving areas modern medicine is incredible. Im not talking about Pfizer and vaccines.... But there's a reason a guy who has a heart attack at 63 like my dad that otherwise would have killed him has lived another 10 years and will likely live another 10.
Hell Antibiotics and cures for simple diseases that previously wiped people out is pretty incredible also.
What you are saying is true but its also already been pointed out a lot of illnesses people get are caused by modernity (micro plastics, radio wave pollution, pesticides, air pollution, industrial food, etc. 1000 years ago getting heart attacks wasn't a common thing like it is today. So again its them finding a solution for a mostly self inflicted problem.
A 63 year old man 300 years ago would not have a heart attack in the first place to be in need of any treatment.
My dad also had a heart attack at 63 and thankfully he is still alive, but his overeliance on doctors who were dealers for big-pharma pills have created a myrriad of side-effects. Only after I encouraged him to find a more traditional doctor who limited his pills from 10-15 to 2-3, he begun feeling better.
And to adress the false claim that "peasants" worked 290 days of the year, no they didn't, they worked around 200. And those 200 would have been worked at a leisurly pace with lots of breaks for food and naps. A modern wage slave works far more for a lower quality of life. I don't count modern trinkets made of plastic as contributing anything but fake and temporary relief at great cost.
My dad also had a heart attack at 63 and thankfully he is still alive, but his overeliance on doctors who were dealers for big-pharma pills have created a myrriad of side-effects. Only after I encouraged him to find a more traditional doctor who limited his pills from 10-15 to 2-3, he begun feeling better.
And to adress the false claim that "peasants" worked 290 days of the year, no they didn't, they worked around 200. And those 200 would have been worked at a leisurly pace with lots of breaks for food and naps. A modern wage slave works far more for a lower quality of life. I don't count modern trinkets made of plastic as contributing anything but fake and temporary relief at great cost.
What are you talking about? People didn't get heart attacks at 63 in the 1500s?
I believe it it you say that because they died at 35...
Based on what evidence?
Abortion almost makes up the difference.
19.9% of pregnancies are aborted in America.
29.7% of pregnancies are aborted in the UK.
Infant mortality rate for America is 0.23%, for UK it is 0.16%.
So, not that much different really, admittedly toddlers, preteens and teenagers were still at high risk of dying from disease so it's not quite accurate.